Anonymous wrote:Just a quick reminder that ever since his inauguration, Trump has been targeting Iranians living in the US for deportation. I spoke to an immigration lawyer recently who had a whole roster of Iranian families as clients, and who had recently clawed out a couple from detention.
Make it make sense.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Nonsense. "Liberal" western outlets have covered the Iran protests extensively, including the parts where demonstrators criticize the Islamic Republic, burn mosques, reject clerical rule, or chant against compulsory religion. Major publications — from the BBC and Reuters to the New York Times, Guardian, AP, DW, and CNN have repeatedly reported:
- attacks on regime‑aligned mosques
- slogans rejecting theocracy
- anger at clerics and the morality police
- the broader revolt against the Islamic Republic’s religious authority
None of that has been hidden or downplayed by the media. The real reason coverage fluctuates is simple: news cycles, not ideology. When protests surge, coverage surges. When the regime cracks down and demonstrations become harder to document, coverage naturally drops — the same pattern seen in Hong Kong, Sudan, Belarus, and elsewhere.
There’s no evidence that Western journalism is suppressing the story because protesters criticize Islam. In fact, the opposite is true: Western outlets have been some of the only institutions consistently documenting how Iranians challenge the regime’s religious authority.
These constant smears of "liberal" and "western" media are not grounded in facts or reality and can only come from or play to people who themselves live in their own tiny echo chamber of restricted media consumption.
+1.
And can we also discuss the practical reason? The international press is not widely allowed in Iran. The Iranian government controls and restricts internet access. That's why you keep seeing the same five videos and why you don't have a lot of "man on the street" interviews. The government of Iran is restricting the ability to report.
And this is the third or fourth time since 2009 that Iran's government was going to fall. The gov't of Iran has a strategy/plan - let the citizenry let off some steam, agree to lessening of some strict rules, then start cracking back down over time. Lather, rinse, repeat. I very much want this to be the time that the gov't of Iran falls, but just because a moderate Muslim woman from the Iranian diaspora says it's so doesn't mean it's so.
Her claim that the Western mind can't absorb the Iranians rising up because it's also an uprising against Islam is bizarre.
I think you’ve literally just proved her point about western historical illiteracy. She’s not Muslim, moderate or otherwise. She’s Persian.
How can you argue against her point when you don’t understand something so fundamental?
Taminah, is that you?
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make? She's the one that brought up Islam and contends that the reason this Iranian uprising is not getting the coverage it deserves is because Westerners refuse to believe that Iranians could also be attacking Islam (at least it is practices/imposed upon them by the Iranian regime). I don't think that's the case and that it's a bizarre claim.
As to your contention that she's not Muslim, she's Persian - are you historically illiterate? She can be both and statistically it's likely that she is. Interestingly,there's no mention anywhere of her religion.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Nonsense. "Liberal" western outlets have covered the Iran protests extensively, including the parts where demonstrators criticize the Islamic Republic, burn mosques, reject clerical rule, or chant against compulsory religion. Major publications — from the BBC and Reuters to the New York Times, Guardian, AP, DW, and CNN have repeatedly reported:
- attacks on regime‑aligned mosques
- slogans rejecting theocracy
- anger at clerics and the morality police
- the broader revolt against the Islamic Republic’s religious authority
None of that has been hidden or downplayed by the media. The real reason coverage fluctuates is simple: news cycles, not ideology. When protests surge, coverage surges. When the regime cracks down and demonstrations become harder to document, coverage naturally drops — the same pattern seen in Hong Kong, Sudan, Belarus, and elsewhere.
There’s no evidence that Western journalism is suppressing the story because protesters criticize Islam. In fact, the opposite is true: Western outlets have been some of the only institutions consistently documenting how Iranians challenge the regime’s religious authority.
These constant smears of "liberal" and "western" media are not grounded in facts or reality and can only come from or play to people who themselves live in their own tiny echo chamber of restricted media consumption.
+1.
And can we also discuss the practical reason? The international press is not widely allowed in Iran. The Iranian government controls and restricts internet access. That's why you keep seeing the same five videos and why you don't have a lot of "man on the street" interviews. The government of Iran is restricting the ability to report.
And this is the third or fourth time since 2009 that Iran's government was going to fall. The gov't of Iran has a strategy/plan - let the citizenry let off some steam, agree to lessening of some strict rules, then start cracking back down over time. Lather, rinse, repeat. I very much want this to be the time that the gov't of Iran falls, but just because a moderate Muslim woman from the Iranian diaspora says it's so doesn't mean it's so.
Her claim that the Western mind can't absorb the Iranians rising up because it's also an uprising against Islam is bizarre.
I think you’ve literally just proved her point about western historical illiteracy. She’s not Muslim, moderate or otherwise. She’s Persian.
How can you argue against her point when you don’t understand something so fundamental?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Nonsense. "Liberal" western outlets have covered the Iran protests extensively, including the parts where demonstrators criticize the Islamic Republic, burn mosques, reject clerical rule, or chant against compulsory religion. Major publications — from the BBC and Reuters to the New York Times, Guardian, AP, DW, and CNN have repeatedly reported:
- attacks on regime‑aligned mosques
- slogans rejecting theocracy
- anger at clerics and the morality police
- the broader revolt against the Islamic Republic’s religious authority
None of that has been hidden or downplayed by the media. The real reason coverage fluctuates is simple: news cycles, not ideology. When protests surge, coverage surges. When the regime cracks down and demonstrations become harder to document, coverage naturally drops — the same pattern seen in Hong Kong, Sudan, Belarus, and elsewhere.
There’s no evidence that Western journalism is suppressing the story because protesters criticize Islam. In fact, the opposite is true: Western outlets have been some of the only institutions consistently documenting how Iranians challenge the regime’s religious authority.
These constant smears of "liberal" and "western" media are not grounded in facts or reality and can only come from or play to people who themselves live in their own tiny echo chamber of restricted media consumption.
+1.
And can we also discuss the practical reason? The international press is not widely allowed in Iran. The Iranian government controls and restricts internet access. That's why you keep seeing the same five videos and why you don't have a lot of "man on the street" interviews. The government of Iran is restricting the ability to report.
And this is the third or fourth time since 2009 that Iran's government was going to fall. The gov't of Iran has a strategy/plan - let the citizenry let off some steam, agree to lessening of some strict rules, then start cracking back down over time. Lather, rinse, repeat. I very much want this to be the time that the gov't of Iran falls, but just because a moderate Muslim woman from the Iranian diaspora says it's so doesn't mean it's so.
Her claim that the Western mind can't absorb the Iranians rising up because it's also an uprising against Islam is bizarre.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Nonsense. "Liberal" western outlets have covered the Iran protests extensively, including the parts where demonstrators criticize the Islamic Republic, burn mosques, reject clerical rule, or chant against compulsory religion. Major publications — from the BBC and Reuters to the New York Times, Guardian, AP, DW, and CNN have repeatedly reported:
- attacks on regime‑aligned mosques
- slogans rejecting theocracy
- anger at clerics and the morality police
- the broader revolt against the Islamic Republic’s religious authority
None of that has been hidden or downplayed by the media. The real reason coverage fluctuates is simple: news cycles, not ideology. When protests surge, coverage surges. When the regime cracks down and demonstrations become harder to document, coverage naturally drops — the same pattern seen in Hong Kong, Sudan, Belarus, and elsewhere.
There’s no evidence that Western journalism is suppressing the story because protesters criticize Islam. In fact, the opposite is true: Western outlets have been some of the only institutions consistently documenting how Iranians challenge the regime’s religious authority.
These constant smears of "liberal" and "western" media are not grounded in facts or reality and can only come from or play to people who themselves live in their own tiny echo chamber of restricted media consumption.
+1.
And can we also discuss the practical reason? The international press is not widely allowed in Iran. The Iranian government controls and restricts internet access. That's why you keep seeing the same five videos and why you don't have a lot of "man on the street" interviews. The government of Iran is restricting the ability to report.
And this is the third or fourth time since 2009 that Iran's government was going to fall. The gov't of Iran has a strategy/plan - let the citizenry let off some steam, agree to lessening of some strict rules, then start cracking back down over time. Lather, rinse, repeat. I very much want this to be the time that the gov't of Iran falls, but just because a moderate Muslim woman from the Iranian diaspora says it's so doesn't mean it's so.
Her claim that the Western mind can't absorb the Iranians rising up because it's also an uprising against Islam is bizarre.
Damn girl, you just described Israel and how the IDF is knocking off every reporter in Gaza. Iran and Israel, two-sides of the same coin.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The real question is how many CIA/Mossad agents are running rampant in tehran right now? And if they plan on committing false flags to further incite violence
What difference are a few dozen CIA or Mossad going to make when tens of thousands have taken to the streets, when regime mosques. Basij and IRGC offices are being burned to the ground?
Anonymous wrote:
The real question is how many CIA/Mossad agents are running rampant in tehran right now? And if they plan on committing false flags to further incite violence
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Nonsense. "Liberal" western outlets have covered the Iran protests extensively, including the parts where demonstrators criticize the Islamic Republic, burn mosques, reject clerical rule, or chant against compulsory religion. Major publications — from the BBC and Reuters to the New York Times, Guardian, AP, DW, and CNN have repeatedly reported:
- attacks on regime‑aligned mosques
- slogans rejecting theocracy
- anger at clerics and the morality police
- the broader revolt against the Islamic Republic’s religious authority
None of that has been hidden or downplayed by the media. The real reason coverage fluctuates is simple: news cycles, not ideology. When protests surge, coverage surges. When the regime cracks down and demonstrations become harder to document, coverage naturally drops — the same pattern seen in Hong Kong, Sudan, Belarus, and elsewhere.
There’s no evidence that Western journalism is suppressing the story because protesters criticize Islam. In fact, the opposite is true: Western outlets have been some of the only institutions consistently documenting how Iranians challenge the regime’s religious authority.
These constant smears of "liberal" and "western" media are not grounded in facts or reality and can only come from or play to people who themselves live in their own tiny echo chamber of restricted media consumption.
+1.
And can we also discuss the practical reason? The international press is not widely allowed in Iran. The Iranian government controls and restricts internet access. That's why you keep seeing the same five videos and why you don't have a lot of "man on the street" interviews. The government of Iran is restricting the ability to report.
And this is the third or fourth time since 2009 that Iran's government was going to fall. The gov't of Iran has a strategy/plan - let the citizenry let off some steam, agree to lessening of some strict rules, then start cracking back down over time. Lather, rinse, repeat. I very much want this to be the time that the gov't of Iran falls, but just because a moderate Muslim woman from the Iranian diaspora says it's so doesn't mean it's so.
Her claim that the Western mind can't absorb the Iranians rising up because it's also an uprising against Islam is bizarre.
Damn girl, you just described Israel and how the IDF is knocking off every reporter in Gaza. Iran and Israel, two-sides of the same coin.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Nonsense. "Liberal" western outlets have covered the Iran protests extensively, including the parts where demonstrators criticize the Islamic Republic, burn mosques, reject clerical rule, or chant against compulsory religion. Major publications — from the BBC and Reuters to the New York Times, Guardian, AP, DW, and CNN have repeatedly reported:
- attacks on regime‑aligned mosques
- slogans rejecting theocracy
- anger at clerics and the morality police
- the broader revolt against the Islamic Republic’s religious authority
None of that has been hidden or downplayed by the media. The real reason coverage fluctuates is simple: news cycles, not ideology. When protests surge, coverage surges. When the regime cracks down and demonstrations become harder to document, coverage naturally drops — the same pattern seen in Hong Kong, Sudan, Belarus, and elsewhere.
There’s no evidence that Western journalism is suppressing the story because protesters criticize Islam. In fact, the opposite is true: Western outlets have been some of the only institutions consistently documenting how Iranians challenge the regime’s religious authority.
These constant smears of "liberal" and "western" media are not grounded in facts or reality and can only come from or play to people who themselves live in their own tiny echo chamber of restricted media consumption.
+1.
And can we also discuss the practical reason? The international press is not widely allowed in Iran. The Iranian government controls and restricts internet access. That's why you keep seeing the same five videos and why you don't have a lot of "man on the street" interviews. The government of Iran is restricting the ability to report.
And this is the third or fourth time since 2009 that Iran's government was going to fall. The gov't of Iran has a strategy/plan - let the citizenry let off some steam, agree to lessening of some strict rules, then start cracking back down over time. Lather, rinse, repeat. I very much want this to be the time that the gov't of Iran falls, but just because a moderate Muslim woman from the Iranian diaspora says it's so doesn't mean it's so.
Her claim that the Western mind can't absorb the Iranians rising up because it's also an uprising against Islam is bizarre.
Anonymous wrote:
Nonsense. "Liberal" western outlets have covered the Iran protests extensively, including the parts where demonstrators criticize the Islamic Republic, burn mosques, reject clerical rule, or chant against compulsory religion. Major publications — from the BBC and Reuters to the New York Times, Guardian, AP, DW, and CNN have repeatedly reported:
- attacks on regime‑aligned mosques
- slogans rejecting theocracy
- anger at clerics and the morality police
- the broader revolt against the Islamic Republic’s religious authority
None of that has been hidden or downplayed by the media. The real reason coverage fluctuates is simple: news cycles, not ideology. When protests surge, coverage surges. When the regime cracks down and demonstrations become harder to document, coverage naturally drops — the same pattern seen in Hong Kong, Sudan, Belarus, and elsewhere.
There’s no evidence that Western journalism is suppressing the story because protesters criticize Islam. In fact, the opposite is true: Western outlets have been some of the only institutions consistently documenting how Iranians challenge the regime’s religious authority.
These constant smears of "liberal" and "western" media are not grounded in facts or reality and can only come from or play to people who themselves live in their own tiny echo chamber of restricted media consumption.