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Anonymous wrote:The nephew is the one at risk.

Your kids are vaccinated so they are safe.

SafER maybe, but not completely safe. My fully vaccinated niece, and several other kids, caught pertussis after spending a week away at camp with an unvaxxed teammate who turned out to be sick.

Then what good were the 4 dtap shots they had by 5?

Presumably it gave their immune systems a head start in fighting the infection so that the disease was shorter and less severe than it otherwise would have been. This would be a good question to ask your doctor, who I’m sure can give you a more accurate and complete answer, as well as address any other concerns you might have.

NP. This is a screwy response. If you read the prior posts, you will see most posters seem to think vaccines will prevent a child from getting sick, not potentially limiting a severe presentation of the disease or virus.

We shouldn't need to go to the doctor to get information about the purpose and effectiveness of vaccines. This needs to be taught.

The rabid pro- and anti-vaxxers are an embarrassment.

Anonymous wrote:Anti vaxers are complete and utterly stupid. They aren't pro child or pro human. They are pro ignorance, death, dying and suffering.

Thank you MAGA idiots for falling for RFK jr and all the lies thrown at you.

Unfortunately others will lose family members because of your stupidity.

This. The 100% selfishness of the current anti-vax crowd astounds me. I have a friend who is in a brace and uses a crutch for life due to childhood polio, and a relative who is deaf from either meadles or mumps, I can't remember.

To not care about your own kids, or other people's enough to get the vaccine, one of our greatest scientific achievements over the past century, is astounding to me.

And yes, I believe all of the anti-vaxers are heinous

Anonymous wrote:I don’t vaccinate my girls for most of the required vaccinations (not including flu or covid, which we don’t vaccinate for either) only a few that we think were/are more necessary.

They’re 5 & 8, perfectly healthy kids.

Yeah, because selfish twats like you have no problem taking advantage of herd immunity and then claiming credit for your irresponsible choices.

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Anonymous wrote:We do vaccinate against polio too.

Which vaccines are you avoiding?

MMR, DTaP, Polio, & PCV are vaccines we do prioritize.
We avoid Hep A, Hep B, Varicella, Influenza, Covid, & Hib.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t vaccinate my girls for most of the required vaccinations (not including flu or covid, which we don’t vaccinate for either) only a few that we think were/are more necessary.

They’re 5 & 8, perfectly healthy kids.

I’m really happy your kids are perfectly healthy, and I sincerely hope they remain that way. Do you realize that one of the factors that has probably contributed to their health is herd immunity, and that it’s breaking down?

A vaccine won’t make a difference to a child who is never exposed to the disease it was designed to prevent. Because the vast majority of people are vaccinated with highly effective vaccines, your kids have basically been encircled by a fence creating a wide buffer zone making it unlikely that their immune system would ever be confronted with the disease.

However, each person who isn’t vaccinated creates a hole in that fence and reduces the safety zone around your children (just as their lack of vaccination does to others). There won’t be a problem, unless the disease is able to exploit one of those holes so that the chain of exposed patients pierces that safety zone. Should that happen, your kids immune systems will have to fight off that disease without the preparation a vaccine could have provided them.

Here are some short videos from an ER pediatrician about vaccines:

Thanks for your concern but we know what we’re doing. My husband grew up the same way we’re raising our kids and rarely ever got sick. They’ll be okay.

I agree your kids will probably be ok, though there were also much higher vaccination rates when your husband was growing up so he was less at risk than your children are now. But like you say, your family is healthy and I'm assuming not immune compromised by cancer or an autoimmune disease; the bigger worry is that your kids are putting other much more vulnerable people at risk. What about the many cancer patients out there in active treatment whose chemo has wiped out their vaccine protection and who can't yet be revaccinated? What about newborns who are too young for most vaccines? These are the people I'd really be worrying about rather than your own unvaccinated kids. I hope you are taking care to keep your children away from anyone you know is inherently more vulnerable, and also informing the school and any other settings where your children interact with many other people, in case there are individuals in those settings who cannot be vaccinated and also have suppressed immunity, and who will be safer if they can be kept separated from your children. Your husband should take similar precautions if he is still unvaccinated.

Anonymous wrote:We do vaccinate against polio too.

Which vaccines are you avoiding?

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Anonymous wrote:If you refuse to vaccinate you should have your tubes tied and darling husband should get a vasectomy.

if you get someone else's child sick you should go to jail.

People should be able to turn you in for bounty monies.

Oh wait red states already do that for abortions and misscarrages.

If you don't vaccinate you are pro birth not pro human morons.

Mom to girls 5 & 8 here ;I’ve never said anything about our political beliefs, we aren’t MAGA. We are more moderate.

You don’t vaccinate for polio? Do you know what polio does? Do you know that it’s far from eradicated?

My elementary school principle had polio as a child and used leg braces to walk the rest of her life. I was an elementary schooler in the late 1980s and it made a tremendous impression on all of us.

Anonymous wrote:OP I would not go near them.

They are too stupid to be around your children.

Horrifyingly dumb.

This, but best to make polite excuses for why can't get together.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m no expert, but as long as your kids have had their vaccines, I don’t think your nephew poses any threat to their health. You should check with your pediatrician to be sure.

While I agree the paranoia and avoidance is foolish and dangerous to the unvaccinated, please keep in mind that there are some people who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons. While unlikely, it is theoretically possible that the nephew may have legitimate medical reasons not to be vaccinated that OP isn’t aware of.

Vaccines are not 100% effective, which is why they rely on herd immunity. I guess OP could get her kids' titers done to see if the vaccines worked for them.

While true, the risks from exposure to the unvaccinated child are very small for the vaccinated kids, particularly if they're not know to be immunocompromised. I agree it's dumb to not get the vaccines on the recommended schedule, but it isn't something the Op really needs to worry about.

She may or may not need to worry for her kids, but if she gets pregnant she for darn sure needs to worry for herself. Measles in pregnancy is joke and our OB re-tested my immunity when i was pregnant.

In general there’s no benefit to being around children whose parents are selfish and uninformed and who are willing to watch their kids suffer or even die to avoid risks they learned on tiktok were real.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m no expert, but as long as your kids have had their vaccines, I don’t think your nephew poses any threat to their health. You should check with your pediatrician to be sure.

While I agree the paranoia and avoidance is foolish and dangerous to the unvaccinated, please keep in mind that there are some people who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons. While unlikely, it is theoretically possible that the nephew may have legitimate medical reasons not to be vaccinated that OP isn’t aware of.

Vaccines are not 100% effective, which is why they rely on herd immunity. I guess OP could get her kids' titers done to see if the vaccines worked for them.

While true, the risks from exposure to the unvaccinated child are very small for the vaccinated kids, particularly if they're not know to be immunocompromised. I agree it's dumb to not get the vaccines on the recommended schedule, but it isn't something the Op really needs to worry about.

Anonymous wrote:We do vaccinate against polio too.

Oh well, gee, thanks for that.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t vaccinate my girls for most of the required vaccinations (not including flu or covid, which we don’t vaccinate for either) only a few that we think were/are more necessary.

They’re 5 & 8, perfectly healthy kids.

Until they get measles

We vaccinate selectively and do include MMR and DTaP.

Where’d you get your medical degree?

My husband and I are highly educated professionals.. Let parents make their own choices

Highly educated professional whats?

Husband is a personal injury attorney, and I work in investing banking.

Op here and my brother is also in investment banking....sigh

This is actually kind of hilarious. Such ego and entitlement in the IB community. Who knew?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t vaccinate my girls for most of the required vaccinations (not including flu or covid, which we don’t vaccinate for either) only a few that we think were/are more necessary.

They’re 5 & 8, perfectly healthy kids.

Until they get measles

We vaccinate selectively and do include MMR and DTaP.

Where’d you get your medical degree?

My husband and I are highly educated professionals.. Let parents make their own choices

I would make the decision never to have your children anywhere near mine, and I’d tell all the other parents why as well.

I’m okay with that.
Like I said before, we believe in parental freedom (including yours) and do all natural parenting.

Same. It's why we had 6. If only half make it to adulthood we will still jave a nice, large family size by DC standards.

There is no such thing as "Natural parenting"
You are pro birth not pro child. Shame on you for having kids and being a complete and utter horrible stupid human.

I’m chortling at YOU calling anyone stupid. This brilliant post whizzed right over your pretty little head.

Anyone who does not vaccinate is stupid that is a fact.

There is no reality it is not a fact.

And heinous as well.

And whoever wrote that satirical post in question agrees with you, dumbo.

We do vaccinate against polio too.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t vaccinate my girls for most of the required vaccinations (not including flu or covid, which we don’t vaccinate for either) only a few that we think were/are more necessary.

They’re 5 & 8, perfectly healthy kids.

Until they get measles

We vaccinate selectively and do include MMR and DTaP.

Where’d you get your medical degree?

My husband and I are highly educated professionals.. Let parents make their own choices

I actually am fine with the PP with the partially vaccinated daughters. If they got their complete sets of DTaP and MMRV, they pose really no big risk to other children. The real risk was when they were babies and the parents were refusing to give them PCV and Hib, and that risk was really only to them (the babies). Google the rates of devastating/ lethal meningitis in babies before and after the widespread use of those vaccines.

It does worry me that the PP didn't think it was important to include IPV, but, whatever, when polio makes a comeback she'll probably rush to get it, because she's selfish, and doesn't actually think the IPV vaccines are dangerous, she's just happy to rely on herd immunity. She is wise enough to know there isn't herd immunity for tetanus, so at least she gave that one I guess.