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Anonymous wrote:Don't do affirmative action for men. He's not the perfect man. He's missing a key element important to you: height. Imagine if you were 250lbs, but everything else about you was unchanged. He wouldn't give you the time of day long enough to make out your hair color, much less actually date you long enough to think of you as the perfect woman who just happens to be fat. You'd just be another fat chick he passed on. He wouldn't feel a bit of guilt about it either because no one expects men to downgrade their standards.

Think of it this way: How mad would you be if this midget cheated on you? It would sting that much more because you lowered your standards for him. Yet, this guy is every bit as likely to cheat as his 6'4 counterpart because men don't do gratitude. Move on.

I agree with every bit of this except the very end. The 5'4 guy would be much less likely to cheat because way less women would be willing to cheat with him.

He only needs one woman to be willing cheat with him!

I hope he reads this thread, realizes it’s you, and moves on. What an incredibly petty thing.

Anonymous wrote:Don't do affirmative action for men. He's not the perfect man. He's missing a key element important to you: height. Imagine if you were 250lbs, but everything else about you was unchanged. He wouldn't give you the time of day long enough to make out your hair color, much less actually date you long enough to think of you as the perfect woman who just happens to be fat. You'd just be another fat chick he passed on. He wouldn't feel a bit of guilt about it either because no one expects men to downgrade their standards.

Think of it this way: How mad would you be if this midget cheated on you? It would sting that much more because you lowered your standards for him. Yet, this guy is every bit as likely to cheat as his 6'4 counterpart because men don't do gratitude. Move on.

I agree with every bit of this except the very end. The 5'4 guy would be much less likely to cheat because way less women would be willing to cheat with him.

Anonymous wrote:5’5” male gets the impression American women have more of an obsession for finding a tall guy than women in other countries.

It matters more in this culture. Short men will tell you that the mistreatment starts when they are in late ES and comes from other males. Short men earn less.

Are we going to blame women for short men earning less?

Anonymous wrote:Have you met up in person yet?

This.

If there’s chemistry, go for it.

My friend is Filipina American and very accomplished. She’s 5’1. She married a 5’4 man who ticked all her boxes except height and Filipino. They’ve been married 16 years now. Her family adores him and her twin is still holding out for a 6 foot tall Filipino doctor.

OP, you should date guys from Northern Europe, especially the Netherlands and Germany. The vast majority are way taller. I hail from there. As a 5'10" woman, I am average height over there, and compared to the under 30 crowd I'm even on the shorter side. Whenever i go back, it's nice to be in a sea of men to whom I look up (literally speaking). When I first moved to the US, it was a strange feeling how most people around me (men and women) were such shorties.

5’5” male gets the impression American women have more of an obsession for finding a tall guy than women in other countries.

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Anonymous wrote:There is an "OP" in every friend groups. People with impractical standard who refuse to "settle".

We're getting tired of it and usually changing the subject whenever the topic is brought up.

My wife's best friend refused to date any man shorter than 6 feet, without a masters degree and not residing in the District. Plus he had to be an 8 or a 9 in looks, Christian, and make 200k+

She ended up marrying a short, ugly, unemployed Jewish guy with a BA from Strayer at 41.

I still crack up thinking about it.

Similar situation with my good friend having a lot of criteria when she was young and marrying someone who fit everything - extremely good looking, MBA, 6'2'' man with a high paying job. They divorced in her 40s and I've never seen her as happy as I see her now with her BF who happens to be a shorter guy. OP give your guy a chance. If you find you're not attracted to him after another date or two, give up and let someone else who appreciates him date him. There are plenty of women who would be really happy to be dating him.

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Anonymous wrote:If you had a short son who got rejected for his height, what would you think of that girl who rejected him? Nothing good, I’m sure.

Please do share what would you think about the boy who rejected your ugly daughter for being ugly?

My son is short and I don't think any girl who wants taller needs to date him. What the hell is wrong with you guys. No man is entitled to a woman.

What the hell is wrong with you? You’re a hypocrite, that’s what.

Most girls aren’t going to want to date your short son, just like your short son isn’t going to want to date ugly girls.

Calm down and try reading what I wrote. You're having a heated argument with your other personality. Girls who don't want my son don't have to date him and he doesn't have to date anyone he doesn't want. Romance and compulsion do not go together.

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If you had a short son who got rejected for his height, what would you think of that girl who rejected him? Nothing good, I’m sure.
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You’re a hypocrite based on your own words.

Most girls aren’t going to reject your son for being short and you’re going to judge them for it.

You're projecting your own personality. Why in the world would I want a woman to be with a man she doesn't want just because that man is my son? What kind of dynamic is that for my son?

You tell me. You are the one who posted about judging women for selecting male romantic partners based on attractiveness. Why would you do that?

I didn't write any such thing. Are you drunk?

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If you had a short son who got rejected for his height, what would you think of that girl who rejected him? Nothing good, I’m sure.
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Your words.

Your son is short and most women won’t want him because of this.

Women have the same right as men to reject unattractive suitors.

You can judge them all you want but it simply makes you a hypocrite.

biological reality is what it is.

Anonymous wrote:There is an "OP" in every friend groups. People with impractical standard who refuse to "settle".

We're getting tired of it and usually changing the subject whenever the topic is brought up.

My wife's best friend refused to date any man shorter than 6 feet, without a masters degree and not residing in the District. Plus he had to be an 8 or a 9 in looks, Christian, and make 200k+

She ended up marrying a short, ugly, unemployed Jewish guy with a BA from Strayer at 41.

I still crack up thinking about it.

At 39 and just dating, you won't be having biological children with him anyway.

I'm a 5'11 men. This is a question mostly for men. Since when have men been insecure about their height? I'm 52 and I don't have a single friend shorter than me who is single.

If a woman wants a tall guy and you are not talking f**k her lol. Even if every single woman in the universe doesn't want you cause you are short f**k them all.

You can still have a fulfilling life if every single woman in this universe doesn't want you because you are short. Find other ways to enjoy life.

Don't dream your life. Live your life instead.

We are making too much of a big deal if someone doesn't end up with anyone.

Ask all the women (whether they will admit it is a different story) who got married solely because they couldn't fathom being single forever. You don't want to be married to these women.

I’m 5’7. When I first met my husband I thought he was about 5’9 and I didn’t want a date. I acquiesced and saw that he was 6’1. I wouldn’t have married anyone shorter.
If you know what is attractive to you then own it. No apologies.

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That’s what short guys should do, pursue the very tall women who are also shunned for their height.

I'm 5'11, but only weight 140lbs. People have preferences. I pass the height test fur most women, but fault the weight test for most of them.

Thankfully we have now these weight loss drugs and finally most women are going to weigh less than me, and their insecurities about weight less than their man is going to disappear.

At 5'4, I think he will have a tougher time than me. While I'm 5'11 not super talk I have freakishly long legs (34 inseam) so I look even taller. I think most women will take the skinny man over the shorter 5'4 man

I think women's height preference to be fair is rooted in evolutionary biology unlike men's weight preference which is frankly a manufactured taste thanks to the fashion industry. Men are attracted to bigger hip, bigger butt that's rooted in evolutionary biology. 120 lbs without with no curves whatsoever aren't that attractive to me. If my butt and hips are bigger than yours we have a problem.