If you talk to Michigan AOs, the academic interests you list (and the alignment in your extracurriculars, as well as your essays) matters. A lot. I think the major you list matters.

We’re seeing a lot of humanities majors admitted, along with undersubscribed sciences. That makes sense to me.

They will have a lot of other kids to choose from in the main pool for oversubscribed majors.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearing undersubscribed majors got in.

Well that would be a logical goal, wouldn't it? I like those undersubscribed departments.

Makes sense in ED. Lock them in.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's crazy because they deferred many 4.0/1580s and admitted a lot of 3.7/1450s. this makes no sense because they could have locked down those high stats kids and now they'll lose many of them. They always end up taking the 3.7/1450s off the waitlist but why take them now?

it's going to have a ricochet effect of chaos because some of the 4.0/1580s would have Ed'd elsewhere in a prior year and would have been locked down and out of the admission pool but [b]now they're in the RD pool [/b]which always causes chaos for a high school they end up accumulating admissions they'll never take. [/quote]

According to reports from elsewhere, some deferrals say their portal says decision by end of January (which means they're in the EA pool), and other deferrals are saying decision by April (RD pool).[/quote]

My kid is a high-stats deferral with a January decision date. Even if he gets in then, he's staying in the RD pool for good other schools. Now wants to consider his options. [/quote]

As he should. Michigan just lost him and many like him and took kids with much lower stats. So stupid. It's like no one told them what the definition of ED was. [/quote]

I’m the PP, and here’s the thing: schools have priorities. Everyone assumed Michigan’s priority with ED was to get the highest stat kids. Turns out…we were all wrong! And that’s their call to make. My kid doesn’t regret EDing there. If he ends up getting in, it will definitely be a top option. But now he’ll have other options, too.[/quote]

But what was the priority? DC is a high stats OOS kid, legacy, etc. that was deferred. Why institute ED if you are just going to postpone everyone?

I see being cautious your first year, but I think this is a misfire for Michigan. Deferring kids who will get into better schools during RD is just a miss. Who will apply there next year?

My kid ED'd elsewhere and I'm glad.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's crazy because they deferred many 4.0/1580s and admitted a lot of 3.7/1450s. this makes no sense because they could have locked down those high stats kids and now they'll lose many of them. They always end up taking the 3.7/1450s off the waitlist but why take them now?

it's going to have a ricochet effect of chaos because some of the 4.0/1580s would have Ed'd elsewhere in a prior year and would have been locked down and out of the admission pool but [b]now they're in the RD pool [/b]which always causes chaos for a high school they end up accumulating admissions they'll never take. [/quote]

According to reports from elsewhere, some deferrals say their portal says decision by end of January (which means they're in the EA pool), and other deferrals are saying decision by April (RD pool).[/quote]

My kid is a high-stats deferral with a January decision date. Even if he gets in then, he's staying in the RD pool for good other schools. Now wants to consider his options. [/quote]

As he should. Michigan just lost him and many like him and took kids with much lower stats. So stupid. It's like no one told them what the definition of ED was. [/quote]

I’m the PP, and here’s the thing: schools have priorities. Everyone assumed Michigan’s priority with ED was to get the highest stat kids. Turns out…we were all wrong! And that’s their call to make. My kid doesn’t regret EDing there. If he ends up getting in, it will definitely be a top option. But now he’ll have other options, too.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy because they deferred many 4.0/1580s and admitted a lot of 3.7/1450s. this makes no sense because they could have locked down those high stats kids and now they'll lose many of them. They always end up taking the 3.7/1450s off the waitlist but why take them now?

it's going to have a ricochet effect of chaos because some of the 4.0/1580s would have Ed'd elsewhere in a prior year and would have been locked down and out of the admission pool but now they're in the RD pool which always causes chaos for a high school they end up accumulating admissions they'll never take.

UVA did the same thing. Highly qualified in-state students shut out and a lot of lower stats students in. Makes no sense. I hope their stats drop like a stone.

When did this uva do this? The ED round just announced? How do you know/how many kids are you talking?

Last year

A lot of high state kids were deferred and lower says got it

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Anonymous wrote:I know that they received over 100K applications. I can't remember where I saw the number. Looking now.

115K total applications and 109K first-year applications.

What’s so special about Michigan? Like sure great school, but 100,000 for a good state school feels insane.

They have been getting that number each year since COVID basically.

It is a popular school, arguably the best combination of academics and big time sports/school spirit in the country.

UT? Cal? UCLA? UNC? UVA?

These are great schools, to be sure. But Michigan offers the best combo for academics and school spirit. The UCs are the only other ever rated higher on academics, but they don’t come close to UM for school spirit.

All of these schools are comparable in academics

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Anonymous wrote:3.91 GPA, 1510 SAT, 11 AP 5s, In-state, president of key club. Child got flat out rejected from LSA today. We're currently distraught.

I'm sorry. Are you my anonymous Grosse Pointe buddy?

How about MSU Honors College/Pitt (my undergrad)/Indiana then transfer if not happy?

Our backup plan was Dearborn then transfer. The campus actually has decent amenities. I realize your kid is overqualified.

When I was an MBA, my BBA mentee was a transfer in to A2 at the sophomore mark.

Don't rule it out. Plus there's always grad school.

Anonymous Grosse Pointe buddy here! (Unless there is more than one of us…). That’s not me, not our time yet. But I’m SO curious what the stats are for our high school. Certainly a lot of kids always go to Michigan, but now how many did ED and what was the acceptance rate??? Hope to find out because it will have a ripple effect for a long time.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy because they deferred many 4.0/1580s and admitted a lot of 3.7/1450s. this makes no sense because they could have locked down those high stats kids and now they'll lose many of them. They always end up taking the 3.7/1450s off the waitlist but why take them now?

it's going to have a ricochet effect of chaos because some of the 4.0/1580s would have Ed'd elsewhere in a prior year and would have been locked down and out of the admission pool but now they're in the RD pool which always causes chaos for a high school they end up accumulating admissions they'll never take.

UVA did the same thing. Highly qualified in-state students shut out and a lot of lower stats students in. Makes no sense. I hope their stats drop like a stone.

When did this uva do this? The ED round just announced? How do you know/how many kids are you talking?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know that they received over 100K applications. I can't remember where I saw the number. Looking now.

115K total applications and 109K first-year applications.

What’s so special about Michigan? Like sure great school, but 100,000 for a good state school feels insane.

They have been getting that number each year since COVID basically.

It is a popular school, arguably the best combination of academics and big time sports/school spirit in the country.

UT? Cal? UCLA? UNC? UVA?

These are great schools, to be sure. But Michigan offers the best combo for academics and school spirit. The UCs are the only other ever rated higher on academics, but they don’t come close to UM for school spirit.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's crazy because they deferred many 4.0/1580s and admitted a lot of 3.7/1450s. this makes no sense because they could have locked down those high stats kids and now they'll lose many of them. They always end up taking the 3.7/1450s off the waitlist but why take them now?

it's going to have a ricochet effect of chaos because some of the 4.0/1580s would have Ed'd elsewhere in a prior year and would have been locked down and out of the admission pool but [b]now they're in the RD pool [/b]which always causes chaos for a high school they end up accumulating admissions they'll never take. [/quote]

According to reports from elsewhere, some deferrals say their portal says decision by end of January (which means they're in the EA pool), and other deferrals are saying decision by April (RD pool).[/quote]

My kid is a high-stats deferral with a January decision date. Even if he gets in then, he's staying in the RD pool for good other schools. Now wants to consider his options. [/quote]

As he should. Michigan just lost him and many like him and took kids with much lower stats. So stupid. It's like no one told them what the definition of ED was.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy because they deferred many 4.0/1580s and admitted a lot of 3.7/1450s. this makes no sense because they could have locked down those high stats kids and now they'll lose many of them. They always end up taking the 3.7/1450s off the waitlist but why take them now?

it's going to have a ricochet effect of chaos because some of the 4.0/1580s would have Ed'd elsewhere in a prior year and would have been locked down and out of the admission pool but now they're in the RD pool which always causes chaos for a high school they end up accumulating admissions they'll never take.

According to reports from elsewhere, some deferrals say their portal says decision by end of January (which means they're in the EA pool), and other deferrals are saying decision by April (RD pool).

My kid is a high-stats deferral with a January decision date. Even if he gets in then, he's staying in the RD pool for good other schools. Now wants to consider his options.

^^^ not sure how "good" ended up there. Will stay in RD pool for all options.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy because they deferred many 4.0/1580s and admitted a lot of 3.7/1450s. this makes no sense because they could have locked down those high stats kids and now they'll lose many of them. They always end up taking the 3.7/1450s off the waitlist but why take them now?

it's going to have a ricochet effect of chaos because some of the 4.0/1580s would have Ed'd elsewhere in a prior year and would have been locked down and out of the admission pool but now they're in the RD pool which always causes chaos for a high school they end up accumulating admissions they'll never take.

According to reports from elsewhere, some deferrals say their portal says decision by end of January (which means they're in the EA pool), and other deferrals are saying decision by April (RD pool).

My kid is a high-stats deferral with a January decision date. Even if he gets in then, he's staying in the RD pool for good other schools. Now wants to consider his options.

Yeah, seems like U Mich may have misread the situation. Early decision is a different deal than early action. Future applicants are not going to want to burn their ED option next year on Michigan given the high deferral rate.

Those high stats will get in elsewhere, is that what they are thinking?