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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused about her diagnosis...she said she had no symptoms. is it standard to have blood tests and check white cell counts after having a baby? I don't remember that.

Yes I wrote about this in one of the thread about not having health care. Everyone single person is susceptible to cancer and it can happen out of nowhere. I saw so many young people with cancer as a resident (sometimes younger than me at the time). It makes me understand that nothing NOTHING is promised.

Even with health care ….Ive has symptoms for many years. All my doctors and specialists said I was making it up despite clear evidence on ct and other tests. Only one doctor decided to investigate and help me to the right specialists where I am finally testing. I’ve suffered unnecessary for so many years because of lazy doctors who should find a new profession.

Nothing to do with this thread.

It does because maybe if she had gotten better health care it would have been caught sooner and she could have gotten earlier treatment and had a better prognosis.

Her cancer was diagnosed super early and she got great care. Some cancers are just super aggressive and there are no effective treatments.

Yep, she got a really early diagnosis because she happened to have a blood test after childbirth that showed an elevated white blood cell count (before she had symptoms). But her form of cancer is really aggressive (it sounds like she had a subtype that is associated with worse outcomes ) and bone marrow transplants don't always work and/or have complications that can kill even healthy people. Also even if treatment is initially successful for this form of cancer, relapse is quite common with very bad outlook.

I have a parent who died of the same type of cancer as hers as well as a first cousin. Both had very early detection combined with the most aggressive treatments possible and neither one survived.

Anonymous wrote:So sad. I'm sorry for her and her family's loss. I'm sorry for all the wasted young lives. Reports keep saying people are living longer. I question that, because I know of so many people who have died young, and/or developed cancer at a young age. Sigh

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https://people.com/caroline-kennedys-daughter-tatiana-schlossberg-reveals-terminal-cancer-diagnosis-11855177

"For my whole life, I have tried to be good, to be a good student and a good sister and a good daughter, and to protect my mother and never make her upset or angry," she added.

"Now I have added a new tragedy to her life, to our family’s life, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it," said the mom of two."

This part didn’t land well with me. It sounds extremely dysfunctional to spend your “whole life” trying to be the good girl, protecting your mom, and not make her angry. I get that to some extent, we’re all like that and it’s human nature, but for it to be such a big part of her, this was sad to me. To grow up in fear of “adding to the tragedy” is such a heavy burden.

This poor family.

Um, yeah, but it is also not a particularly original thing to say, or that interesting. I mean what she is going through is. HORRIFIC but her op ed is not that compelling.

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https://people.com/caroline-kennedys-daughter-tatiana-schlossberg-reveals-terminal-cancer-diagnosis-11855177

"For my whole life, I have tried to be good, to be a good student and a good sister and a good daughter, and to protect my mother and never make her upset or angry," she added.

"Now I have added a new tragedy to her life, to our family’s life, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it," said the mom of two."

This part didn’t land well with me. It sounds extremely dysfunctional to spend your “whole life” trying to be the good girl, protecting your mom, and not make her angry. I get that to some extent, we’re all like that and it’s human nature, but for it to be such a big part of her, this was sad to me. To grow up in fear of “adding to the tragedy” is such a heavy burden.

This poor family.

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https://people.com/caroline-kennedys-daughter-tatiana-schlossberg-reveals-terminal-cancer-diagnosis-11855177

"For my whole life, I have tried to be good, to be a good student and a good sister and a good daughter, and to protect my mother and never make her upset or angry," she added.

"Now I have added a new tragedy to her life, to our family’s life, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it," said the mom of two."

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Anonymous wrote:I keep thinking there has to be some treatment, some clinical trial to help here. I know 2 people with AML who made it. I'm hoping for her.

She unfortunately has the Inversion 3 mutation. An "inversion 3 AML" is a specific subtype of AML that has a poor prognosis and a low response rate to standard chemotherapy, making it one of the most difficult types of AML to treat.

Cancer is tricky. People think of some types of cancers as “good” cancer but in reality there are lots of subtypes or gene mutations that can make it really hard to treat.

I'm a cancer researcher and constantly work to educate the people that believe in the conspiracy theories that pharma doesn't want to cure cancer. They can't comprehend that cancer is a collection of genetically diverse diseases within each type of cancer.

Anonymous wrote:JFK’s kids and grandkids all turned out well. RFK’s are a very mixed bag.

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Anonymous wrote:This is terrifyingly sad. The New Yorker portrait of her is haunting. And what a well-written piece.

I'm amazed they were able to keep this private for as long as they did, given how public her brother has become.

I’m also surprised they were able to keep it quiet for so long.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused about her diagnosis...she said she had no symptoms. is it standard to have blood tests and check white cell counts after having a baby? I don't remember that.

Yes I wrote about this in one of the thread about not having health care. Everyone single person is susceptible to cancer and it can happen out of nowhere. I saw so many young people with cancer as a resident (sometimes younger than me at the time). It makes me understand that nothing NOTHING is promised.

Even with health care ….Ive has symptoms for many years. All my doctors and specialists said I was making it up despite clear evidence on ct and other tests. Only one doctor decided to investigate and help me to the right specialists where I am finally testing. I’ve suffered unnecessary for so many years because of lazy doctors who should find a new profession.

Nothing to do with this thread.

It does because maybe if she had gotten better health care it would have been caught sooner and she could have gotten earlier treatment and had a better prognosis.

Her cancer was diagnosed super early and she got great care. Some cancers are just super aggressive and there are no effective treatments.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused about her diagnosis...she said she had no symptoms. is it standard to have blood tests and check white cell counts after having a baby? I don't remember that.

Yes I wrote about this in one of the thread about not having health care. Everyone single person is susceptible to cancer and it can happen out of nowhere. I saw so many young people with cancer as a resident (sometimes younger than me at the time). It makes me understand that nothing NOTHING is promised.

Even with health care ….Ive has symptoms for many years. All my doctors and specialists said I was making it up despite clear evidence on ct and other tests. Only one doctor decided to investigate and help me to the right specialists where I am finally testing. I’ve suffered unnecessary for so many years because of lazy doctors who should find a new profession.

Nothing to do with this thread.

It does because maybe if she had gotten better health care it would have been caught sooner and she could have gotten earlier treatment and had a better prognosis.

Her cancer was diagnosed super early and she got great care. Some cancers are just super aggressive and there are no effective treatments.

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Anonymous wrote:This gutted me, as I used to think like this before my mom died. It's often the only thought that saved me from suicide. And then my brother died by suicide.

"For my whole life, I have tried to be good, to be a good student and a good sister and a good daughter, and to protect my mother and never make her upset or angry. Now I have added a new tragedy to her life, to our family’s life, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it."

I admire the decency and social conscience with which Caroline's children were raised.

Losing a child is the worst. My heart goes out to them.

I think losing a parent when you are that young is worse. They will spend their whole lives longing for her, wanting to know her but never really being able to and every milestone and growth in maturity will open that wound anew. They will have to grieve and regrieve her again and again.

No they will not. Under three yrs old and they will have very little, if any memory of her, only what is captured in photographs and film and what is told to them. If they are lucky they will be raised by family and potentially step family and they will be surrounded by love, no doubt.

I read somewhere that it is even harder for kids with no memory of their deceased parent. They are grieving something they never knew and that parent will forever be a mystery, which can be very difficult to process. It's not like they won't know they lost a parent - even if their dad remarries someone great and loving, they will know they lost their mom and that they have no idea who she is.

Yup. Sometimes not remembering them is worse than remembering them. I have no doubt they will be loved but it’s not the same. She will always be a ghost to them.

I hope they’ll know how much she loved them even if just through the words in her essay. I have to imagine she’ll leave them with more letters, but it’ll never be enough.

I have a 4 and 2 year old myself and am just devastated for her. I have another friend whose husband recently passed of cancer at 35 too with 2 kids under 5. It’s so horrible.

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Anonymous wrote:JFK’s kids and grandkids all turned out well. RFK’s are a very mixed bag.

Ethel Kennedy was insane!

Welk, she was married to a philandering Kennedy, had way too many children, and it drive her to drink.

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Anonymous wrote:JFK’s kids and grandkids all turned out well. RFK’s are a very mixed bag.

Ethel Kennedy was insane!

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Anonymous wrote:This is terrifyingly sad. The New Yorker portrait of her is haunting. And what a well-written piece.

I'm amazed they were able to keep this private for as long as they did, given how public her brother has become.

I’m also surprised they were able to keep it quiet for so long.

And nyc, in their circle, is small.

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Anonymous wrote:This is terrifyingly sad. The New Yorker portrait of her is haunting. And what a well-written piece.

I'm amazed they were able to keep this private for as long as they did, given how public her brother has become.

I’m also surprised they were able to keep it quiet for so long.