Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:sure thing on your double down:

https://williamsrecord.com/468578/news/college-admits-26-6-percent-of-early-decision-applicants-to-class-of-2029/

what about donor, legacy VIPs, fly-in program admittees not falling into the above categories? How many? 20-30?

And other first-gen Pell grant types applying ED. My guess is double or triple that.

Another point: recruited athletes don’t get major scrutiny and they are all basically econ or bio majors or CS.

That means non-athletes, in both the ED and RD round, get even more major scrutiny. It’s a dirty little secret.

Male unhooked Econ or CS applicant? Good luck! Athletes already got first dibs…

Female biology or pre-med? Please, not another one…

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not recalculating anything. You asked/doubled down on source for 18 QB and I provided it. YW!

That’s not a source. It is a news article. CDS will still likely include them in ED.

nope. at no school is qb included in ED. it's a separate process and it's thrown into RD numbers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC will ED2 to Bowdoin if doesn’t get into Dartmouth.

4.0uw, highest rigor at public that sends 10 percent of class to Ivies.
1550, 35 single sitting
All 5s on 6 APs
Good but not extraordinary ECs
Wants to double major in Biochem, Sociology

No. Please go down a rung for ED2.

we get it - your kid wants to get into college so you're telling every other parent that their kid should go to State University, but this isnt how this works

Anonymous wrote:It also depends which LACs consider legacy.

LACs that consider legacy:
Williams
Bowdoin
Swarthmore
Middlebury
Haverford
Vassar

LACs that have eliminated legacy:
Amherst
Wesleyan
Carleton
Pomona/Scripps/CMC/Pitzer/Harvey Mudd*
Colorado College
Occidental

(Legacies typically apply in one of the ED rounds. So keep that in mind when calculating odds.)

* I forgot to add Harvey Mudd in list of 5Cs. None of the 5Cs consider legacy anymore after change in CA law.

It also depends which LACs consider legacy.

LACs that consider legacy:
Williams
Bowdoin
Swarthmore
Middlebury
Haverford
Vassar

LACs that have eliminated legacy:
Amherst
Wesleyan
Carleton
Pomona/Scripps/CMC/Pitzer
Colorado College
Occidental

(Legacies typically apply in one of the ED rounds. So keep that in mind when calculating odds.)

Anonymous wrote:DC will ED2 to Bowdoin if doesn’t get into Dartmouth.

4.0uw, highest rigor at public that sends 10 percent of class to Ivies.
1550, 35 single sitting
All 5s on 6 APs
Good but not extraordinary ECs
Wants to double major in Biochem, Sociology

No. Please go down a rung for ED2.

Anonymous wrote:I'm not recalculating anything. You asked/doubled down on source for 18 QB and I provided it. YW!

That’s not a source. It is a news article. CDS will still likely include them in ED.

I'm not recalculating anything. You asked/doubled down on source for 18 QB and I provided it. YW!

DC will ED2 to Bowdoin if doesn’t get into Dartmouth.

4.0uw, highest rigor at public that sends 10 percent of class to Ivies.
1550, 35 single sitting
All 5s on 6 APs
Good but not extraordinary ECs
Wants to double major in Biochem, Sociology

Anonymous wrote:sure thing on your double down:

https://williamsrecord.com/468578/news/college-admits-26-6-percent-of-early-decision-applicants-to-class-of-2029/

what about donor, legacy VIPs, fly-in program admittees not falling into the above categories? How many? 20-30?

Anonymous wrote:sure thing on your double down:

https://williamsrecord.com/468578/news/college-admits-26-6-percent-of-early-decision-applicants-to-class-of-2029/

Right, so recalculate with 35% recruited athletes, and double the number of ED round first-gen, donor, VIP, faculty, georgrphic diversity admits. That would be more accurate…

sure thing on your double down:

https://williamsrecord.com/468578/news/college-admits-26-6-percent-of-early-decision-applicants-to-class-of-2029/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:18 QB and 0 posse.

Source?

I welcome doubling down on details: the more details, the worse it looks. Hint: Williams has a fly-in program. Got to count slots for those!

Anonymous wrote:neither QB nor posse are included in ED numbers.

and all athletes are not recruited athletes at these schools.

it's a tough admit in either round

Conservative number was 30% recruited athletes. Athletes are 45% of freshman class, due to attrition. Williams has very few walk-ons. Most of those few who walk on are already athletes in other sports and staying in shape with another sport. That is why, for determining athlete numbers, you only take the “unduplicated” count.

Williams has 680 unduplicated athletes: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/early-decision-enrollment/

Anonymous wrote:18 QB and 0 posse.

Source?