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Anonymous wrote:In the 1980s AO's were saying it was cheating if you used a word processor. You need to look up a word in a dictionary yourself for spelling and not have the word processor do it for you.

AI is the same. People who dont know how to use it think it is generating robotic essays. You need to learn to tune the prompts 10 level deep to get results that wow AO's. People not using AI are going to be at a huge disadvantage.

How can it not be? You are bringing a knife to a gun fight.

Or… you could write it yourself. This idea that crafting the prompts takes real effort is so dumb. Resist, people!

Not while other people are cheating. Unless they have a standardized way to have essays written in a proctored timed environment people will use the tools available. So either accept it or do away with essays.

Anonymous wrote:In the 1980s AO's were saying it was cheating if you used a word processor. You need to look up a word in a dictionary yourself for spelling and not have the word processor do it for you.

AI is the same. People who dont know how to use it think it is generating robotic essays. You need to learn to tune the prompts 10 level deep to get results that wow AO's. People not using AI are going to be at a huge disadvantage.

How can it not be? You are bringing a knife to a gun fight.

Or… you could write it yourself. This idea that crafting the prompts takes real effort is so dumb. Resist, people!

Anonymous wrote:In the 1980s AO's were saying it was cheating if you used a word processor. You need to look up a word in a dictionary yourself for spelling and not have the word processor do it for you.

AI is the same. People who dont know how to use it think it is generating robotic essays. You need to learn to tune the prompts 10 level deep to get results that wow AO's. People not using AI are going to be at a huge disadvantage.

How can it not be? You are bringing a knife to a gun fight.

Ridiculous. Every single word you wrote.

Anonymous wrote:In the 1980s AO's were saying it was cheating if you used a word processor. You need to look up a word in a dictionary yourself for spelling and not have the word processor do it for you.

AI is the same. People who dont know how to use it think it is generating robotic essays. You need to learn to tune the prompts 10 level deep to get results that wow AO's. People not using AI are going to be at a huge disadvantage.

How can it not be? You are bringing a knife to a gun fight.

Where were they saying this? In their info sessions? When we applied to college, you barely heard from AOs.

Anonymous wrote:AI is grading the essays now, so just ask the AI to grade the essay it writes and change it if it doesn't like the essay.

LOL!

The whole idea of essays is stupid anyway. Shouldn’t even be required. Especially the why school why major. It just shows how well the applicant can research their website.

AI is grading the essays now, so just ask the AI to grade the essay it writes and change it if it doesn't like the essay.

Pro tip: if you or your kid dumps their life into an AI and talks to it like a diary an therapist, yeah I will have great material for a unique and specific personal AI.

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Anonymous wrote:Yikes. My DC has been working on an essay since January that’s an extended metaphor related to food and her chosen major. I thought it was creative but now it seems like a dime a dozen.

Also, “three things clumped together” is how everyone writes, especially at work.

I guess you didn't see the website she copied the idea from.

Look at this shit, being actively promoted by colleges:

https://www.conncoll.edu/admission/apply/essays-that-worked/elle-yarborough-28/

"Essays that worked" are always gonna be essays that are not going to work anymore. Or else they wouldn't post them.

The idea that hundreds of thousands of admits are going to write unique essays is just absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, everything sounds like AI to me now. I don't think I can even tell the difference. All these "tell tale signs" of AI are things I have done my whole life. I am super annoyed I can't use em-dashes anymore.

YES, I have used em dashes and the rule of 3s for a long time. Annoying.

We all do! It's classic. That's why AI trained that way.
This is all so circular and stupid.

3s is common and well liked. Dashes are not. Most people don't know how to type them. It's. A mystery how AI got them but the AIs are being tuned to remove them. They love their emoji section headers though

Anonymous wrote:Why not consider the number of sittings for SATs? Big difference between a kid who sat once and scored 1570 and another kid who sat 5 times to get a superscore.

Colleges like people who can learn and grow. Shocking!

In the 1980s AO's were saying it was cheating if you used a word processor. You need to look up a word in a dictionary yourself for spelling and not have the word processor do it for you.

AI is the same. People who dont know how to use it think it is generating robotic essays. You need to learn to tune the prompts 10 level deep to get results that wow AO's. People not using AI are going to be at a huge disadvantage.

How can it not be? You are bringing a knife to a gun fight.

Anonymous wrote:You guys are nuts! These essays are amazing. I predict Ivy admits.

Except they will be eerily familiar to the readers.

YCBK had an episode about ChatGPT essays, and the quality of essays generally improved.

However, they said they can spot the AI-assisted essays more easily than a human-assisted essay because of the formula and patterns.

They agree that human editor/assistance is prevalent, but don't seem overly concerned.

Think a lot of the advice here is true - esp for some of these AI essays here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1pac92c/will_ai_essays_be_genuine_competition/

"Use AI the way you’d use an experienced college counselor. You don’t want the counselor to write the essay for you, and the same goes for AI. You want your counselor to help you brainstorm and advise you on structure, flow, and word choice, so you can use AI in that way. AI can significantly help those students who are not able to afford private college counselors. But for sure. you should be knowledgeable enough to tell whether what AI tells you is valuable advice or just trash."



"People who purely used AI on their essay is no competition (obviously but let's be honest, no one uses pure AI). A decent chunk of people might AI an essay, maybe type a paragraph or two on their own, ask the AI to sound more human, etc. That still is probably not a huge competition.

Essays that are mostly AI are easy to tell that its AI. AOs' jobs are to read essays; they can probably distinguish between essays that are mostly Ai and essays that aren't. Now here's the news. Times are changing, and you have to adapt.

The competition you should be worried out for is people who wrote their essay and used AI to receive feedback and polish it through AI. The type of students who know when to stop using AI to prevent over polish.

One way I've heard someone use AI creatively is by asking it to imitate a devil's advocate, or a genius rival that hates your guts and wants to rip your essay to shreds. People who can already write good essays will only write better ones with the continuation of AI. You kind of just have to accept this and be one of those students.

So yes, AI is genuine competition. A lot (if not most) student writers, good or bad, use AI. Learn to compete with it, or get left in the dust."

You guys are nuts! These essays are amazing. I predict Ivy admits.