Anonymous wrote:Going to top colleges was worth it back in the day for the access to the knowledge it provided. Now a kid can go to a state university for formal education and use the internet, social networking and AI to access infinite amount of knowledge on any topic. Committing to spend $400k on undergraduate would be the most idiotic thing to do in 2026.

Anonymous wrote:Going to top colleges was worth it back in the day for the access to the knowledge it provided. Now a kid can go to a state university for formal education and use the internet, social networking and AI to access infinite amount of knowledge on any topic. Committing to spend $400k on undergraduate would be the most idiotic thing to do in 2026.

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Anonymous wrote:Very few people spend $200,000 on college. Only the rich and the faux rich do.

UVA in-state 4 years is about that price.

No. It isn’t. It’s $40,383 a year for instate. All costs included. See here. https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2025-2026

so much more than $40383

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[b]That's just for Art and Science.

Engineering is $51K+ and Business also comes close.

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Yes, you are the disturbed person who has an axe to grind that UVA charges more for engineering - but without understanding that College of Arts and Sciences is the largest College at the University and that the few in engineering are more than glad (my DS, the aerospace engineer, as an example) to pay the small lab surcharge for an excellent in-state school engineering experience, as opposed to pay $99K a year for private like USC. I'm sorry you have a twist in your pants about the modest extra charge to UVA engineering students, but your harping in thread after thread is just bizarre, and maybe you should rethink it or spend less time on DCUM, because very few people here care that UVA has a small extra lab charge for engineering students. The fact that the vast majority of UVA students pay only $40K, inclusive of all fees, for a superior education at a T25/26 school in the nation should be celebrated. You need to rethink why you need to criticize the added-on engineering fees, because, frankly, your behavior is weird. We should all celebrate in-state options where they are available. Not criticize. I am grateful that Virginia options existed for all of my children. And, interestingly, I am a Californian, so I grew up with even greater expectations of what the state could provide in secondary education (including California community college offerings and admission to the UC schools, Cal State Schools, and UC schools). My sister and nieces all took advantage of those programs. One niece attended community college for 2 years, excelled, and was accepted to USC for small business. The commonwealth offers the same via community college to the 30-odd excellent four-year colleges in the Commonwealth, but unfortunately, parents in VA don't take advantage of community college as we have/had in California.. They don't even know that their high school kids can take summer college programs to work on, demonstrating to the admissions committee that, if accepted, they could do Ivy-level work. My DS did that between junior and senior years in chemistry to prove he could perform at a college level, which he did. That's the kind of performance that admissions committees want to see.

It's not an ax to grind, it's just facts. Parts of UVA cost $200k for 4 years. Same at VT. That's an in-state public. Sure it's half the cost of an Ivy but likely you'd get some form of merit aid at an Ivy because their pot to give is larger. Anyway, the cost of a 4-yr degree is quite high. And, no one is really sure about the return on investment. There are tons of '24 and '25 VT grads in CS who are still searching for steady jobs. Some have given up. The rate of layoffs in tech is off the charts. So many kids are going into BME thinking it's a safe harbor but I wouldn't be sure of that either.

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Anonymous wrote:Very few people spend $200,000 on college. Only the rich and the faux rich do.

UVA in-state 4 years is about that price.

No. It isn’t. It’s $40,383 a year for instate. All costs included. See here. https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2025-2026

It is NOT for material and engineering. The cost is 51K for the first year, and 52K per year after that. That's over 200K for an in-state education at UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:Very few people spend $200,000 on college. Only the rich and the faux rich do.

UVA in-state 4 years is about that price.

No. It isn’t. It’s $40,383 a year for instate. All costs included. See here. https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2025-2026

so much more than $40383

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[b]That's just for Art and Science.

Engineering is $51K+ and Business also comes close.

Nursing and Data Science al


Yes, you are the disturbed person who has an axe to grind that UVA charges more for engineering - but without understanding that College of Arts and Sciences is the largest College at the University and that the few in engineering are more than glad (my DS, the aerospace engineer, as an example) to pay the small lab surcharge for an excellent in-state school engineering experience, as opposed to pay $99K a year for private like USC. I'm sorry you have a twist in your pants about the modest extra charge to UVA engineering students, but your harping in thread after thread is just bizarre, and maybe you should rethink it or spend less time on DCUM, because very few people here care that UVA has a small extra lab charge for engineering students. The fact that the vast majority of UVA students pay only $40K, inclusive of all fees, for a superior education at a T25/26 school in the nation should be celebrated. You need to rethink why you need to criticize the added-on engineering fees, because, frankly, your behavior is weird. We should all celebrate in-state options where they are available. Not criticize. I am grateful that Virginia options existed for all of my children. And, interestingly, I am a Californian, so I grew up with even greater expectations of what the state could provide in secondary education (including California community college offerings and admission to the UC schools, Cal State Schools, and UC schools). My sister and nieces all took advantage of those programs. One niece attended community college for 2 years, excelled, and was accepted to USC for small business. The commonwealth offers the same via community college to the 30-odd excellent four-year colleges in the Commonwealth, but unfortunately, parents in VA don't take advantage of community college as we have/had in California.. They don't even know that their high school kids can take summer college programs to work on, demonstrating to the admissions committee that, if accepted, they could do Ivy-level work. My DS did that between junior and senior years in chemistry to prove he could perform at a college level, which he did. That's the kind of performance that admissions committees want to see.

It's not an ax to grind, it's just facts. Parts of UVA cost $200k for 4 years. Same at VT. That's an in-state public. Sure it's half the cost of an Ivy but likely you'd get some form of merit aid at an Ivy because their pot to give is larger. Anyway, the cost of a 4-yr degree is quite high. And, no one is really sure about the return on investment. There are tons of '24 and '25 VT grads in CS who are still searching for steady jobs. Some have given up. The rate of layoffs in tech is off the charts. So many kids are going into BME thinking it's a safe harbor but I wouldn't be sure of that either.

Anonymous wrote:Just saw the thread on IU hazing incident. Is this what people call ‘college experience’? Hazing, drugs, parties, and then at the end they don’t even have jobs? We are just paying for our kids to have unchecked fun at a resort basically = college experience.. must take on debt. Jesus!

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Anonymous wrote:It’s good that people are finally starting to question the cost of college. Both private schools and out-of-state publics are such a rip-off and disconnect from building career (aka, no career in AI generation)

And let's also a question the destruction of the job market. It's gone into a nose dive with this new administration.

Not everything is about politics, my friend. Most people are just trying to get by. When it comes to the job market, everyone knows it’s the rich who are consuming the world’s resources — and yes, elite schools and big corporations are part of that group. Everything is about profit...

I don't know that much about politics, but I have kids in college getting ready to graduate into this absolute crap job market. I sure wish they were graduating into the job market from the last administration. I can tell you that.

If companies want to layoff anyone they can layoff anyone anytime they want to even if your kids landed a job already... what's the difference? Governments don't own the private sectors.

Suit yourself. I want the old economy back for my kids.

Sounds like you're saying you'd like to Make America Great Again.

Yes please. And not to some undefined nebulous time when we could own other people and women were not to go to college. Give me back the Biden administration and the economy that went with it. I'll take that tomorrow for all of our kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Very few people spend $200,000 on college. Only the rich and the faux rich do.

UVA in-state 4 years is about that price.

No. It isn’t. It’s $40,383 a year for instate. All costs included. See here. https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2025-2026

so much more than $40383

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[b]That's just for Art and Science.

Engineering is $51K+ and Business also comes close.

Nursing and Data Science al


Yes, you are the disturbed person who has an axe to grind that UVA charges more for engineering - but without understanding that College of Arts and Sciences is the largest College at the University and that the few in engineering are more than glad (my DS, the aerospace engineer, as an example) to pay the small lab surcharge for an excellent in-state school engineering experience, as opposed to pay $99K a year for private like USC. I'm sorry you have a twist in your pants about the modest extra charge to UVA engineering students, but your harping in thread after thread is just bizarre, and maybe you should rethink it or spend less time on DCUM, because very few people here care that UVA has a small extra lab charge for engineering students. The fact that the vast majority of UVA students pay only $40K, inclusive of all fees, for a superior education at a T25/26 school in the nation should be celebrated. You need to rethink why you need to criticize the added-on engineering fees, because, frankly, your behavior is weird. We should all celebrate in-state options where they are available. Not criticize. I am grateful that Virginia options existed for all of my children. And, interestingly, I am a Californian, so I grew up with even greater expectations of what the state could provide in secondary education (including California community college offerings and admission to the UC schools, Cal State Schools, and UC schools). My sister and nieces all took advantage of those programs. One niece attended community college for 2 years, excelled, and was accepted to USC for small business. The commonwealth offers the same via community college to the 30-odd excellent four-year colleges in the Commonwealth, but unfortunately, parents in VA don't take advantage of community college as we have/had in California.. They don't even know that their high school kids can take summer college programs to work on, demonstrating to the admissions committee that, if accepted, they could do Ivy-level work. My DS did that between junior and senior years in chemistry to prove he could perform at a college level, which he did. That's the kind of performance that admissions committees want to see.

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Anonymous wrote:Very few people spend $200,000 on college. Only the rich and the faux rich do.

UVA in-state 4 years is about that price.

No. It isn’t. It’s $40,383 a year for instate. All costs included. See here. https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2025-2026

so much more than $40383

Anonymous wrote:Just saw the thread on IU hazing incident. Is this what people call ‘college experience’? Hazing, drugs, parties, and then at the end they don’t even have jobs? We are just paying for our kids to have unchecked fun at a resort basically = college experience.. must take on debt. Jesus!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m wondering this but for $320,000. In theory I think college is about much more than later earnings.

I don’t think so. I think college years and college in general is glorified and hyped up. Not saying kids shouldn’t attend college just saying its not all that to justify spending 320k for your kids to party, experiment with drugs or make friends.. I think more and more college especially top 20 is just a prestige signal.

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Anonymous wrote:Very few people spend $200,000 on college. Only the rich and the faux rich do.

UVA in-state 4 years is about that price.

No. It isn’t. It’s $40,383 a year for instate. All costs included. See here. https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2025-2026