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Anonymous wrote:What I’m hearing, and it could be wrong, is that MCPS wants to give high performing kids stuck in underperforming kids a way to have their needs met through programs. But because MCPS didn’t actually ask anyone, they assumed wrong and these families just want their needs adequately met at the schools they chose for themselves (their home schools). High performing kids at well resourced schools also don’t tend to feel the need for these programs a lot of the time, so adding more of them is probably pretty unnecessary. Maybe they could slowly add a few more countywide ones to increase seats incrementally and so travel is not as long. Are we all in agreement?

Exactly! This was once done for Poolsville SMCS in a slow and corporative pace. Blair SMCS teachers and coordinators helped a lot in the first few years in building another strong program to benefit upper county high performers without sacrificing others' priorities. This round SMCS alumni foundation and coordinator tried to offer help and suggestions, and were shut the door from the beginning.

The regional model is going to drain every HS' existing resource to build a bunch of watered-down low quality programs that no one would be interested in.

Anonymous wrote:What I’m hearing, and it could be wrong, is that MCPS wants to give high performing kids stuck in underperforming kids a way to have their needs met through programs. But because MCPS didn’t actually ask anyone, they assumed wrong and these families just want their needs adequately met at the schools they chose for themselves (their home schools). High performing kids at well resourced schools also don’t tend to feel the need for these programs a lot of the time, so adding more of them is probably pretty unnecessary. Maybe they could slowly add a few more countywide ones to increase seats incrementally and so travel is not as long. Are we all in agreement?

Anonymous wrote:What I’m hearing, and it could be wrong, is that MCPS wants to give high performing kids stuck in underperforming kids a way to have their needs met through programs. But because MCPS didn’t actually ask anyone, they assumed wrong and these families just want their needs adequately met at the schools they chose for themselves (their home schools). High performing kids at well resourced schools also don’t tend to feel the need for these programs a lot of the time, so adding more of them is probably pretty unnecessary. Maybe they could slowly add a few more countywide ones to increase seats incrementally and so travel is not as long. Are we all in agreement?

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Anonymous wrote:So the idea is that only Whitmans course offerings should be offered everywhere?

There are programs not at Whitman….

The problem is the MCPS analysis only looks at programs, which are composed of courses. But many courses are not part of a program. Just because Northwood has a humanities "program" doesn't mean it has more humanities courses.
than Whitman. In actuality, Whitman has more and they aren't shared with several other schools as in the DCC.

Whitman can keep its courses. But why would you place a magnet humanities program there? It will siphon off the kids that would do AP social studies at other schools. Why not recognize ALL.of Whitman's assets, not just its named programs? It already has advanced math, science, engineering and social studies classes that other schools in Region 1 do not have. It does not need a criteria based academic magne program that will just hurt advanced course offerings at other schools.

I’m not opposed to sticking the humanities magnet somewhere else, but this thread is about ending all of the program analysis. There are at least two other threads for the Whitman humanities magnet.

This is one of the many reasons why the program model will HARM east county high schools. You just don't want people to share this information. I would love for the regional program proposal to be shut down as that would prevent the probable harms I have described above. If nothing else, it is evidence that MCPS has developed a reckless and harmful proposal and needs to be stopped in its tracks immediately.

Do you realize that in relation to messaging you seem to be the one opposed to equity? The new regional programs are touted as being more equitable for a number of reasons. Opposing them WHOLE CLOTH would appear to ignore and even denigrate the issues they are attempting to solve.

I've already explained above why the proposal creates the opposite of equity. If you don't agree that's fine, but explain how you think an academic magnet at Whitman promotes equity (maybe look up the word equity before you so that).

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Anonymous wrote:So the idea is that only Whitmans course offerings should be offered everywhere?

There are programs not at Whitman….

The problem is the MCPS analysis only looks at programs, which are composed of courses. But many courses are not part of a program. Just because Northwood has a humanities "program" doesn't mean it has more humanities courses.
than Whitman. In actuality, Whitman has more and they aren't shared with several other schools as in the DCC.

Whitman can keep its courses. But why would you place a magnet humanities program there? It will siphon off the kids that would do AP social studies at other schools. Why not recognize ALL.of Whitman's assets, not just its named programs? It already has advanced math, science, engineering and social studies classes that other schools in Region 1 do not have. It does not need a criteria based academic magne program that will just hurt advanced course offerings at other schools.

I’m not opposed to sticking the humanities magnet somewhere else, but this thread is about ending all of the program analysis. There are at least two other threads for the Whitman humanities magnet.

This is one of the many reasons why the program model will HARM east county high schools. You just don't want people to share this information. I would love for the regional program proposal to be shut down as that would prevent the probable harms I have described above. If nothing else, it is evidence that MCPS has developed a reckless and harmful proposal and needs to be stopped in its tracks immediately.

Do you realize that in relation to messaging you seem to be the one opposed to equity? The new regional programs are touted as being more equitable for a number of reasons. Opposing them WHOLE CLOTH would appear to ignore and even denigrate the issues they are attempting to solve.

I've already explained above why the proposal creates the opposite of equity. If you don't agree that's fine, but explain how you think an academic magnet at Whitman promotes equity (maybe look up the word equity before you so that).

My only question is how popular a humanities magnet actually would be. The only reasons I can fathom putting it at Whitman are space and unpopularity.

Prior program analysis proposal put it at BCC, which seems ok but doubt they have space.

Whitman is ALREADY meeting the local interest in the humanities with their local courses. There is interest Northwood as well.

Wasn’t Northwood supposed to be the performing arts magnet? Like in its original conception. I know the arts got weirdly divided between Einstein and Northwood in the most recent proposal.

They are changing a lot of things, have you not noticed this?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the idea is that only Whitmans course offerings should be offered everywhere?

There are programs not at Whitman….

The problem is the MCPS analysis only looks at programs, which are composed of courses. But many courses are not part of a program. Just because Northwood has a humanities "program" doesn't mean it has more humanities courses.
than Whitman. In actuality, Whitman has more and they aren't shared with several other schools as in the DCC.

Whitman can keep its courses. But why would you place a magnet humanities program there? It will siphon off the kids that would do AP social studies at other schools. Why not recognize ALL.of Whitman's assets, not just its named programs? It already has advanced math, science, engineering and social studies classes that other schools in Region 1 do not have. It does not need a criteria based academic magne program that will just hurt advanced course offerings at other schools.

I’m not opposed to sticking the humanities magnet somewhere else, but this thread is about ending all of the program analysis. There are at least two other threads for the Whitman humanities magnet.

This is one of the many reasons why the program model will HARM east county high schools. You just don't want people to share this information. I would love for the regional program proposal to be shut down as that would prevent the probable harms I have described above. If nothing else, it is evidence that MCPS has developed a reckless and harmful proposal and needs to be stopped in its tracks immediately.

Do you realize that in relation to messaging you seem to be the one opposed to equity? The new regional programs are touted as being more equitable for a number of reasons. Opposing them WHOLE CLOTH would appear to ignore and even denigrate the issues they are attempting to solve.

I've already explained above why the proposal creates the opposite of equity. If you don't agree that's fine, but explain how you think an academic magnet at Whitman promotes equity (maybe look up the word equity before you so that).

My only question is how popular a humanities magnet actually would be. The only reasons I can fathom putting it at Whitman are space and unpopularity.

Prior program analysis proposal put it at BCC, which seems ok but doubt they have space.

Whitman is ALREADY meeting the local interest in the humanities with their local courses. There is interest Northwood as well.

Wasn’t Northwood supposed to be the performing arts magnet? Like in its original conception. I know the arts got weirdly divided between Einstein and Northwood in the most recent proposal.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the idea is that only Whitmans course offerings should be offered everywhere?

There are programs not at Whitman….

The problem is the MCPS analysis only looks at programs, which are composed of courses. But many courses are not part of a program. Just because Northwood has a humanities "program" doesn't mean it has more humanities courses.
than Whitman. In actuality, Whitman has more and they aren't shared with several other schools as in the DCC.

Whitman can keep its courses. But why would you place a magnet humanities program there? It will siphon off the kids that would do AP social studies at other schools. Why not recognize ALL.of Whitman's assets, not just its named programs? It already has advanced math, science, engineering and social studies classes that other schools in Region 1 do not have. It does not need a criteria based academic magne program that will just hurt advanced course offerings at other schools.

I’m not opposed to sticking the humanities magnet somewhere else, but this thread is about ending all of the program analysis. There are at least two other threads for the Whitman humanities magnet.

This is one of the many reasons why the program model will HARM east county high schools. You just don't want people to share this information. I would love for the regional program proposal to be shut down as that would prevent the probable harms I have described above. If nothing else, it is evidence that MCPS has developed a reckless and harmful proposal and needs to be stopped in its tracks immediately.

Do you realize that in relation to messaging you seem to be the one opposed to equity? The new regional programs are touted as being more equitable for a number of reasons. Opposing them WHOLE CLOTH would appear to ignore and even denigrate the issues they are attempting to solve.

I've already explained above why the proposal creates the opposite of equity. If you don't agree that's fine, but explain how you think an academic magnet at Whitman promotes equity (maybe look up the word equity before you so that).

My only question is how popular a humanities magnet actually would be. The only reasons I can fathom putting it at Whitman are space and unpopularity.

Prior program analysis proposal put it at BCC, which seems ok but doubt they have space.

Whitman is ALREADY meeting the local interest in the humanities with their local courses. There is interest Northwood as well.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the idea is that only Whitmans course offerings should be offered everywhere?

There are programs not at Whitman….

The problem is the MCPS analysis only looks at programs, which are composed of courses. But many courses are not part of a program. Just because Northwood has a humanities "program" doesn't mean it has more humanities courses.
than Whitman. In actuality, Whitman has more and they aren't shared with several other schools as in the DCC.

Whitman can keep its courses. But why would you place a magnet humanities program there? It will siphon off the kids that would do AP social studies at other schools. Why not recognize ALL.of Whitman's assets, not just its named programs? It already has advanced math, science, engineering and social studies classes that other schools in Region 1 do not have. It does not need a criteria based academic magne program that will just hurt advanced course offerings at other schools.

I’m not opposed to sticking the humanities magnet somewhere else, but this thread is about ending all of the program analysis. There are at least two other threads for the Whitman humanities magnet.

This is one of the many reasons why the program model will HARM east county high schools. You just don't want people to share this information. I would love for the regional program proposal to be shut down as that would prevent the probable harms I have described above. If nothing else, it is evidence that MCPS has developed a reckless and harmful proposal and needs to be stopped in its tracks immediately.

Do you realize that in relation to messaging you seem to be the one opposed to equity? The new regional programs are touted as being more equitable for a number of reasons. Opposing them WHOLE CLOTH would appear to ignore and even denigrate the issues they are attempting to solve.

I've already explained above why the proposal creates the opposite of equity. If you don't agree that's fine, but explain how you think an academic magnet at Whitman promotes equity (maybe look up the word equity before you so that).

My only question is how popular a humanities magnet actually would be. The only reasons I can fathom putting it at Whitman are space and unpopularity.

Prior program analysis proposal put it at BCC, which seems ok but doubt they have space.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the idea is that only Whitmans course offerings should be offered everywhere?

There are programs not at Whitman….

The problem is the MCPS analysis only looks at programs, which are composed of courses. But many courses are not part of a program. Just because Northwood has a humanities "program" doesn't mean it has more humanities courses.
than Whitman. In actuality, Whitman has more and they aren't shared with several other schools as in the DCC.

Whitman can keep its courses. But why would you place a magnet humanities program there? It will siphon off the kids that would do AP social studies at other schools. Why not recognize ALL.of Whitman's assets, not just its named programs? It already has advanced math, science, engineering and social studies classes that other schools in Region 1 do not have. It does not need a criteria based academic magne program that will just hurt advanced course offerings at other schools.

I’m not opposed to sticking the humanities magnet somewhere else, but this thread is about ending all of the program analysis. There are at least two other threads for the Whitman humanities magnet.

This is one of the many reasons why the program model will HARM east county high schools. You just don't want people to share this information. I would love for the regional program proposal to be shut down as that would prevent the probable harms I have described above. If nothing else, it is evidence that MCPS has developed a reckless and harmful proposal and needs to be stopped in its tracks immediately.

Do you realize that in relation to messaging you seem to be the one opposed to equity? The new regional programs are touted as being more equitable for a number of reasons. Opposing them WHOLE CLOTH would appear to ignore and even denigrate the issues they are attempting to solve.

I've already explained above why the proposal creates the opposite of equity. If you don't agree that's fine, but explain how you think an academic magnet at Whitman promotes equity (maybe look up the word equity before you so that).

My only question is how popular a humanities magnet actually would be. The only reasons I can fathom putting it at Whitman are space and unpopularity.

Prior program analysis proposal put it at BCC, which seems ok but doubt they have space.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the idea is that only Whitmans course offerings should be offered everywhere?

There are programs not at Whitman….

The problem is the MCPS analysis only looks at programs, which are composed of courses. But many courses are not part of a program. Just because Northwood has a humanities "program" doesn't mean it has more humanities courses.
than Whitman. In actuality, Whitman has more and they aren't shared with several other schools as in the DCC.

Whitman can keep its courses. But why would you place a magnet humanities program there? It will siphon off the kids that would do AP social studies at other schools. Why not recognize ALL.of Whitman's assets, not just its named programs? It already has advanced math, science, engineering and social studies classes that other schools in Region 1 do not have. It does not need a criteria based academic magne program that will just hurt advanced course offerings at other schools.

I’m not opposed to sticking the humanities magnet somewhere else, but this thread is about ending all of the program analysis. There are at least two other threads for the Whitman humanities magnet.

This is one of the many reasons why the program model will HARM east county high schools. You just don't want people to share this information. I would love for the regional program proposal to be shut down as that would prevent the probable harms I have described above. If nothing else, it is evidence that MCPS has developed a reckless and harmful proposal and needs to be stopped in its tracks immediately.

Do you realize that in relation to messaging you seem to be the one opposed to equity? The new regional programs are touted as being more equitable for a number of reasons. Opposing them WHOLE CLOTH would appear to ignore and even denigrate the issues they are attempting to solve.

I've already explained above why the proposal creates the opposite of equity. If you don't agree that's fine, but explain how you think an academic magnet at Whitman promotes equity (maybe look up the word equity before you so that).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the idea is that only Whitmans course offerings should be offered everywhere?

There are programs not at Whitman….

The problem is the MCPS analysis only looks at programs, which are composed of courses. But many courses are not part of a program. Just because Northwood has a humanities "program" doesn't mean it has more humanities courses.
than Whitman. In actuality, Whitman has more and they aren't shared with several other schools as in the DCC.

Whitman can keep its courses. But why would you place a magnet humanities program there? It will siphon off the kids that would do AP social studies at other schools. Why not recognize ALL.of Whitman's assets, not just its named programs? It already has advanced math, science, engineering and social studies classes that other schools in Region 1 do not have. It does not need a criteria based academic magne program that will just hurt advanced course offerings at other schools.