Anonymous
11/30/2025 09:00
Subject: Segra Field and Loudoun United
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’re talking about minor league soccer here. It’s a stretch to even call them professional players. Minor league soccer in the US sits somewhere between professional cornhole and pickleball. There is zero prospect for a profitable business. These teams are fun for people with some money to play sports team owner for a little while. Stop talking about player conditions. Even in a more popular sport like minor league baseball conditions are pretty bad and USL has nowhere near the popularity of baseball. USL is a better organized adult soccer league.
Stretch to call them professionals? Between pro-cornhole and pickleball? Come on. Those comments are pretty ignorant. Why is it a stretch to call them professional - is it because the salary is low? is it because the level of play is less than other leagues? The players that are busting their ass at training, working to win matches, etc, probably don't think so.
Zero prospect for a profitable business? Play sports owner? Why would anyone want to own a team if all it does is hemorrhage money and operate in the red? While there are teams that fit that bill, there are many others out there that have a long history and a solid ownership group that is investing in their team, the infrastructure and the community as well. It's not just a toy for rich folks to think that they own something.
Why stop talking about player conditions? Why is it unreasonable for the players to expect to have working showers with hot water, a field that is not falling apart, etc. In regards to MiLB, MLB stepped in and has created new standards that teams must adhere to in order to keep their affiliations. That was one of the huge drivers for a new facility to be constructed in Richmond for their AA team. The old stadium, while it worked as a venue, didn't meet the new standards that MLB had imposed.
To call USL a better organized adult soccer league is pretty shortsighted. Knowing folks that are current players and coaches, past players and coaches, it's really a nonsensical comment.
Yeah, I saw some of the business after the latest USL-C victory in terms of the locker room celebration or lack there of, but I think USL as a whole is moving in the right direction. LU has a much longer way to go since it seems that whatever they were doing wasn't working and really need to reboot. But to sell the entire USL short is really not fair or warranted.
I think the model they are pushing is exciting if they can get traction.
A lot of nothing burger while you regurgitate questions without rebuttals. Even a middle schooler in debate team can do a better job. How invested are you to exhibit your feelings got hurt? The entire squad plus its coach the last 7 years have been playing like a HS team.
Just because they “work their butts off” means absolutely nothing.
Anonymous
11/30/2025 08:37
Subject: Segra Field and Loudoun United
Anonymous wrote:We’re talking about minor league soccer here. It’s a stretch to even call them professional players. Minor league soccer in the US sits somewhere between professional cornhole and pickleball. There is zero prospect for a profitable business. These teams are fun for people with some money to play sports team owner for a little while. Stop talking about player conditions. Even in a more popular sport like minor league baseball conditions are pretty bad and USL has nowhere near the popularity of baseball. USL is a better organized adult soccer league.
Stretch to call them professionals? Between pro-cornhole and pickleball? Come on. Those comments are pretty ignorant. Why is it a stretch to call them professional - is it because the salary is low? is it because the level of play is less than other leagues? The players that are busting their ass at training, working to win matches, etc, probably don't think so.
Zero prospect for a profitable business? Play sports owner? Why would anyone want to own a team if all it does is hemorrhage money and operate in the red? While there are teams that fit that bill, there are many others out there that have a long history and a solid ownership group that is investing in their team, the infrastructure and the community as well. It's not just a toy for rich folks to think that they own something.
Why stop talking about player conditions? Why is it unreasonable for the players to expect to have working showers with hot water, a field that is not falling apart, etc. In regards to MiLB, MLB stepped in and has created new standards that teams must adhere to in order to keep their affiliations. That was one of the huge drivers for a new facility to be constructed in Richmond for their AA team. The old stadium, while it worked as a venue, didn't meet the new standards that MLB had imposed.
To call USL a better organized adult soccer league is pretty shortsighted. Knowing folks that are current players and coaches, past players and coaches, it's really a nonsensical comment.
Yeah, I saw some of the business after the latest USL-C victory in terms of the locker room celebration or lack there of, but I think USL as a whole is moving in the right direction. LU has a much longer way to go since it seems that whatever they were doing wasn't working and really need to reboot. But to sell the entire USL short is really not fair or warranted.
I think the model they are pushing is exciting if they can get traction.
Anonymous
11/27/2025 23:08
Subject: Re:Segra Field and Loudoun United
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow another announcement of a staff coach member leaving. It really is a dumpster fire 🗑️🔥
Your life is a dumpster fire. Have fun in NC dude.
I’m not affiliated with LU. Who were you attempting to throw shade at?
You sound like a top-notch loser.
Sounds like you se the unisex bathroom.
Anonymous
11/27/2025 22:15
Subject: Re:Segra Field and Loudoun United
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow another announcement of a staff coach member leaving. It really is a dumpster fire 🗑️🔥
Your life is a dumpster fire. Have fun in NC dude.
I’m not affiliated with LU. Who were you attempting to throw shade at?
You sound like a top-notch loser.
Anonymous
11/27/2025 21:40
Subject: Re:Segra Field and Loudoun United
Anonymous wrote:Wow another announcement of a staff coach member leaving. It really is a dumpster fire 🗑️🔥
Your life is a dumpster fire. Have fun in NC dude.
Anonymous
11/27/2025 10:45
Subject: Segra Field and Loudoun United
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’re talking about minor league soccer here. It’s a stretch to even call them professional players. Minor league soccer in the US sits somewhere between professional cornhole and pickleball. There is zero prospect for a profitable business. These teams are fun for people with some money to play sports team owner for a little while. Stop talking about player conditions. Even in a more popular sport like minor league baseball conditions are pretty bad and USL has nowhere near the popularity of baseball. USL is a better organized adult soccer league.
Pretty much. You know what’s also hilarious? There are some scattered young bucks going from UPSL (amateur) getting pro contracts in Europe. When have you seen a “pro” in USL-C head over the pond?
Thanks for listening to my ted talk!
According to Grok, about 35 in the last 10 years have gone from USL to Europe.
Anonymous
11/27/2025 09:18
Subject: Segra Field and Loudoun United
Anonymous wrote:We’re talking about minor league soccer here. It’s a stretch to even call them professional players. Minor league soccer in the US sits somewhere between professional cornhole and pickleball. There is zero prospect for a profitable business. These teams are fun for people with some money to play sports team owner for a little while. Stop talking about player conditions. Even in a more popular sport like minor league baseball conditions are pretty bad and USL has nowhere near the popularity of baseball. USL is a better organized adult soccer league.
Pretty much. You know what’s also hilarious? There are some scattered young bucks going from UPSL (amateur) getting pro contracts in Europe. When have you seen a “pro” in USL-C head over the pond?
Thanks for listening to my ted talk!
Anonymous
11/27/2025 08:58
Subject: Segra Field and Loudoun United
We’re talking about minor league soccer here. It’s a stretch to even call them professional players. Minor league soccer in the US sits somewhere between professional cornhole and pickleball. There is zero prospect for a profitable business. These teams are fun for people with some money to play sports team owner for a little while. Stop talking about player conditions. Even in a more popular sport like minor league baseball conditions are pretty bad and USL has nowhere near the popularity of baseball. USL is a better organized adult soccer league.
Anonymous
11/27/2025 06:22
Subject: Segra Field and Loudoun United
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All conditions that were there prior to the new ownership. Can't expect for him to turn things around completely in less than a year, especially with how difficult LC is with building permits. Sounds like the new owner is getting rid of waste and cleaning house. Throw stones when there's no signs of improvement by the end of next season.
Fair enough. But do you think things got better or worse after he was inserted into the mix?
Was there an expected influx of cash?
Did the players per diem go up down on the road?
Did they start to shorten trips to avoid additional hotel costs?
Did they bus home 4.5 hours after a night game to avoid costs?
Did they tell professional players if they coached VRSC teams they could pay them more?
Did they force players to make appearances at Raventek or face consequences?
I have no inside knowledge of the inner workings of LU but if the club was hemorrhaging money, then i would expect a new owner to avoid additional costs whereverthey could. it's also the grind for a player on a minor league team. As for coaching vrsc team's, it is a way to pay the players more without having to modify contracts. A player appearance is likely in every contract to help promote LU, so yes a player would be in violation of their contract if it includes appearances and they dont appear. No different than a pro contract.
I'll throw stones at the end of next season if there's no signs of improvement.
Anonymous
11/26/2025 21:53
Subject: Segra Field and Loudoun United
Anonymous wrote:All conditions that were there prior to the new ownership. Can't expect for him to turn things around completely in less than a year, especially with how difficult LC is with building permits. Sounds like the new owner is getting rid of waste and cleaning house. Throw stones when there's no signs of improvement by the end of next season.
Fair enough. But do you think things got better or worse after he was inserted into the mix?
Was there an expected influx of cash?
Did the players per diem go up down on the road?
Did they start to shorten trips to avoid additional hotel costs?
Did they bus home 4.5 hours after a night game to avoid costs?
Did they tell professional players if they coached VRSC teams they could pay them more?
Did they force players to make appearances at Raventek or face consequences?
Anonymous
11/26/2025 20:38
Subject: Segra Field and Loudoun United
All conditions that were there prior to the new ownership. Can't expect for him to turn things around completely in less than a year, especially with how difficult LC is with building permits. Sounds like the new owner is getting rid of waste and cleaning house. Throw stones when there's no signs of improvement by the end of next season.
Anonymous
11/26/2025 19:46
Subject: Re:Segra Field and Loudoun United
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow another announcement of a staff coach member leaving. It really is a dumpster fire 🗑️🔥
Every single one of the coaches had interviewed elsewhere long before the season ended. Some may follow RM west - but those who can leave, are!
Ok so what’s truly pushing them away? Association with a youth club whose former president was of moral turpitude? “That’s it”?
Underpaid - by orders of magnitude in USL
Horrible club leadership
Lack of definitive future plans (USL2?)
Lack of communication
Horrible stadium
Lack of a training facility
Lack of working showers
Lack of rehab facilities
Leadership who wants them to coach their youth teams on the side
Lack of fan support
Players forced to do their own laundry
Players forced to pay for extra uniforms
I can go on…
Go back and read the article on the Athletic and you will see how bad it is.
Can’t find the article! Mind sharing it again? Also, since you sound like an insider, is it true the rumor of Revolution asking $5k to families next year to offset the LU financial current holes?
Yup sounds about right but Rev has a bar!
Anonymous
11/26/2025 19:44
Subject: Re:Segra Field and Loudoun United
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow another announcement of a staff coach member leaving. It really is a dumpster fire 🗑️🔥
Every single one of the coaches had interviewed elsewhere long before the season ended. Some may follow RM west - but those who can leave, are!
Ok so what’s truly pushing them away? Association with a youth club whose former president was of moral turpitude? “That’s it”?
Underpaid - by orders of magnitude in USL
Horrible club leadership
Lack of definitive future plans (USL2?)
Lack of communication
Horrible stadium
Lack of a training facility
Lack of working showers
Lack of rehab facilities
Leadership who wants them to coach their youth teams on the side
Lack of fan support
Players forced to do their own laundry
Players forced to pay for extra uniforms
I can go on…
Go back and read the article on the Athletic and you will see how bad it is.
Can’t find the article! Mind sharing it again? Also, since you sound like an insider, is it true the rumor of Revolution asking $5k to families next year to offset the LU financial current holes?
Can’t speak to VRSCs plans for their youth club.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6281237/2025/04/17/loudoun-united-usl-championship-washing-jerseys/?source=user_shared_article
Anonymous
11/26/2025 19:34
Subject: Re:Segra Field and Loudoun United
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow another announcement of a staff coach member leaving. It really is a dumpster fire 🗑️🔥
Every single one of the coaches had interviewed elsewhere long before the season ended. Some may follow RM west - but those who can leave, are!
Ok so what’s truly pushing them away? Association with a youth club whose former president was of moral turpitude? “That’s it”?
Underpaid - by orders of magnitude in USL
Horrible club leadership
Lack of definitive future plans (USL2?)
Lack of communication
Horrible stadium
Lack of a training facility
Lack of working showers
Lack of rehab facilities
Leadership who wants them to coach their youth teams on the side
Lack of fan support
Players forced to do their own laundry
Players forced to pay for extra uniforms
I can go on…
Go back and read the article on the Athletic and you will see how bad it is.
Can’t find the article! Mind sharing it again? Also, since you sound like an insider, is it true the rumor of Revolution asking $5k to families next year to offset the LU financial current holes?
Anonymous
11/26/2025 19:05
Subject: Re:Segra Field and Loudoun United
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow another announcement of a staff coach member leaving. It really is a dumpster fire 🗑️🔥
Every single one of the coaches had interviewed elsewhere long before the season ended. Some may follow RM west - but those who can leave, are!
Ok so what’s truly pushing them away? Association with a youth club whose former president was of moral turpitude? “That’s it”?
Underpaid - by orders of magnitude in USL
Horrible club leadership
Lack of definitive future plans (USL2?)
Lack of communication
Horrible stadium
Lack of a training facility
Lack of working showers
Lack of rehab facilities
Leadership who wants them to coach their youth teams on the side
Lack of fan support
Players forced to do their own laundry
Players forced to pay for extra uniforms
I can go on…
Go back and read the article on the Athletic and you will see how bad it is.