Anonymous wrote:No wonder suicide is so high for high schoolers

Seriously. And it feeds into other things too. There’s so much pressure to do well that kids spend hours studying and doing extracurriculars instead of sleeping, dating, socializing with friends and family. So they lose those social connections essential for mental wellbeing (and sleep! Also essential). We’ve created a real race to the bottom. And kids like OP’s that are taking the classes they like but without killing tjemselves for the A….its not clear where their place is. In the long run, these kids are probably more likely to be successful because they are pursuing their intellectual interests but also maintaining a work life balance.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a lot of those type of kids in my AP math classes. Hard working, good, B/B+ students. They typically end up at Mason or JMU. Sometimes an out of state flagship.

That sounds terrible, you can get into those schools without taking an AP classes, in fact mason accepts everyone. WOW so this is why we need to do something about admissions too many students for the spots

Why? If you're a mediocre student with mediocre grades, you go to a mediocre school. Not everyone should be going to Yale, just because they believe themselves to be smart.

mediocre students get bs in advanced classes? so do failure students get As in normal classes? WILD!

Yes...we're talking about MIT and Princeton level schools, here. Your child isn't special for barely being able to get through APUSH.

ok thats fine lets say that no ivy league, but UVA or Vtech level are out of reach? people are saying thats a stretch? So they should be targeting GMU (90% acceptance) or JMU (76% acceptance?)

Correct. No way someone with those grades will get into UVA. Don’t know about VA Tech, but definitely can’t count on it.

Over half of applicants get into VT

Maybe into VT overall - if including the Ag college, maybe. Into VT Engineering, however, acceptance rate is visibly smaller than 50%.

Anonymous wrote:Wow never thought people would suggest community college. What happened to our society where this would be considered an extraordinary student 20 years a go.

Community colleges in areas with highly educated, affluent populations are stronger than you think.

And, it's not that kids can't get in anywhere else, it's a price/value hack to get guaranteed transfer into a desired flagship. Where there is a program for that. Without the flagship transfer possibility, it's not the best option unless money is the central issue.

I think OP's kid can get into other "better" schools but suppose they only wanted to go to UVA. And will try to transfer from any school they go to? That's why this advice is surfacing.

WPI
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Anonymous wrote:Will things get better with all the crackdowns on undocumented immigrants and foreign students?

No, undocumented students are generally not top students and foreign students have an even harder standard to meet.

Foreign students are smashing it.

foreign students are in a different pool.

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Anonymous wrote:Will things get better with all the crackdowns on undocumented immigrants and foreign students?

No, undocumented students are generally not top students and foreign students have an even harder standard to meet.

Foreign students are smashing it.

Anonymous wrote:Wow never thought people would suggest community college. What happened to our society where this would be considered an extraordinary student 20 years a go.

Boomer. As part of the woke agenda, GPAs and SATs have been significantly watered down to obscure the merit standards. A 3.5 GPA isn’t nearly the same anymore.

No wonder suicide is so high for high schoolers

Wow never thought people would suggest community college. What happened to our society where this would be considered an extraordinary student 20 years a go.

^ not from FCPS. Would you please stop using -general- admission numbers, they mean nothing from our area

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Anonymous wrote:I have a lot of those type of kids in my AP math classes. Hard working, good, B/B+ students. They typically end up at Mason or JMU. Sometimes an out of state flagship.

That sounds terrible, you can get into those schools without taking an AP classes, in fact mason accepts everyone. WOW so this is why we need to do something about admissions too many students for the spots

Why? If you're a mediocre student with mediocre grades, you go to a mediocre school. Not everyone should be going to Yale, just because they believe themselves to be smart.

mediocre students get bs in advanced classes? so do failure students get As in normal classes? WILD!

Yes...we're talking about MIT and Princeton level schools, here. Your child isn't special for barely being able to get through APUSH.

ok thats fine lets say that no ivy league, but UVA or Vtech level are out of reach? people are saying thats a stretch? So they should be targeting GMU (90% acceptance) or JMU (76% acceptance?)

Correct. No way someone with those grades will get into UVA. Don’t know about VA Tech, but definitely can’t count on it.

Over half of applicants get into VT

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Anonymous wrote:The kids in my DD’s school who liked to challenge themselves but got B/B+’s like your son are all at UW Madison. Such a great school!

FWIW, I think your son is right to push himself but like many others have said, MIT probably won’t be realistic.

These kids no longer get into Wisconsin. It is much harder to get in now than 3-4 years ago.

Can someone generally explain to me why this is? Are there that many more kids or what?

The best kids are getting better and better.