Anonymous
10/25/2025 13:00
Subject: Re:Top 20-ish Colleges by YIELD RATE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry I'm new to this... can you explain what yield rate is and it's significance?
It's a rate of actually attending the school when accepted.
It's part of desirability of the school together with acceptance rate, cohort quality, and retention rate.
Thank you!!
Anonymous
10/25/2025 12:42
Subject: Top 20-ish Colleges by YIELD RATE
Anonymous wrote:Davidson has a yield rate higher than Williams, Amherst, and Swarthmore, and just a tad lower than Pomona. Its yield rate handily beats most other top-rated LACs, save Bowdoin.
Davidson has a unique offering, as it provides the academic rigor of a top NE LAC, but the warmth of the South and a less cutthroat/more supportive and collaborative environment. That’s a sweet spot for many.
Throw in needs-blind admission, no-loan financial aid, D1 sports, and a beautiful campus and it’s hard to beat for a certain demographic.
Anonymous
10/25/2025 12:23
Subject: Top 20-ish Colleges by YIELD RATE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:wow, none of the WASP LACs are here even with ED? but I thought they were the only ones that mattered?
WASPs don't take many kids ED. So kids without hooks apply RD, and most of them will have multiple options.
ED accept rates:
Williams: 26.6%
Amherst: 27.1%
Swarthmore: 18%
Pomona: 12.98% (2028)
These rates don’t include athletes, Questbridge , etc. Every school reports ED with these preferred admits. As another poster indicated, when you include these other students, WASP admits about 50% of each class ED. Not saying that this is bad, but let’s be transparent.
Anonymous
10/25/2025 12:20
Subject: Top 20-ish Colleges by YIELD RATE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Only non-ED yield rates count. I hope it’s not too hard to comprehend.
Why? Because you said so?
If someone is applying ED, that’s a pretty strong signal they actually want to go to the school.
It’s the strongest signal possible.
I think more so out of the Top 25 where the applicants aren’t as influenced by fears of being shut out and apply to schools based upon a calculation of more likely acceptance.
I suspect that schools like BU, NYU, Tufts and others really are the first choice for the overwhelming number of their ED applicants.
What you can argue is cohort quality. Harvard and MIT students probably have slightly higher student stats than BU, NYU, Tufts.
Not much though.
Anonymous
10/25/2025 12:19
Subject: Re:Top 20-ish Colleges by YIELD RATE
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry I'm new to this... can you explain what yield rate is and it's significance?
Put it this way. Chicago has 80% of the class admitted from ED0-ED3 rounds. EDs are binding, so they have to go to Chicago. So for 80% of Chicago’s class, the yield rate is 100%.
Anonymous
10/25/2025 12:17
Subject: Top 20-ish Colleges by YIELD RATE
Anonymous wrote:In our private , in FL, the top 5 students have following characteristics:
Follow teachers instructions to a T and study a lot
Bookish but not necessarily brilliant…
It is amongst 6 to 20 th ranks where you see true brilliance , marked by some measure of rebelliousness and not toeing the line completely.
I hear the same is true in another top magnet
School nearby.
However the midwit school counselors are often unable to comprehend this reality.
It is in the (top) universities where the difference in intellect truly emerges where complexities and abstractions nullifies advantages of relentless grinding accrued during High School years pursuing simpler and straightforward coursework.
And you’re here on DCUM exactly- why?
Anonymous
10/25/2025 12:15
Subject: Re:Top 20-ish Colleges by YIELD RATE
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry I'm new to this... can you explain what yield rate is and it's significance?
It’s the percent of students who are accepted who decide to attend. It’s an indicator of how much kids actually want to attend a school.
In other words, if a student applies widely and gets accepted at five schools but can only attend one, the one they choose to attend is assumed to be their most preferred of their options.
A school with both a low admit rate and a high yield is highly coveted by students because it’s both hard to get into and for those students who get accepted students actually want to attend (it’s not just another application).
Anonymous
10/25/2025 12:14
Subject: Re:Top 20-ish Colleges by YIELD RATE
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry I'm new to this... can you explain what yield rate is and it's significance?
It's a rate of actually attending the school when accepted.
It's part of desirability of the school together with acceptance rate, cohort quality, and retention rate.
Anonymous
10/25/2025 12:09
Subject: Top 20-ish Colleges by YIELD RATE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Only non-ED yield rates count. I hope it’s not too hard to comprehend.
Why? Because you said so?
If someone is applying ED, that’s a pretty strong signal they actually want to go to the school.
It’s the strongest signal possible.
I think more so out of the Top 25 where the applicants aren’t as influenced by fears of being shut out and apply to schools based upon a calculation of more likely acceptance.
I suspect that schools like BU, NYU, Tufts and others really are the first choice for the overwhelming number of their ED applicants.
Anonymous
10/25/2025 12:09
Subject: Re:Top 20-ish Colleges by YIELD RATE
I'm sorry I'm new to this... can you explain what yield rate is and it's significance?
Anonymous
10/25/2025 12:07
Subject: Top 20-ish Colleges by YIELD RATE
I would also check the retention rate.
Choosing the school is one thing, but then actually finding it good and staying is also an important factor.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return
Choosing the school is one thing, but then actually finding it good and staying is also an important factor.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return
Anonymous
10/25/2025 12:04
Subject: Top 20-ish Colleges by YIELD RATE
Davidson has a yield rate higher than Williams, Amherst, and Swarthmore, and just a tad lower than Pomona. Its yield rate handily beats most other top-rated LACs, save Bowdoin.
Anonymous
10/25/2025 12:03
Subject: Top 20-ish Colleges by YIELD RATE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1) University of Chicago: 88%
2) MIT: 86%
3) US Naval Academy: 85%
4) Harvard: 84%
5) Stanford: 82%
6) Princeton: 76%
7-8) Yale: 70% (tie)
7-8) UPenn: 70% (tie)
9-10) Dartmouth: 69% (tie)
9-10) Barnard: 69% (tie)
11) Brown: 65%
12-13) Cornell: 64% (tie)
12-13) Columbia: 64% (tie)
14) University of Notre Dame: 62%
15-16) Caltech: 61% (tie)
15-16) Vanderbilt: 61% (tie)
17) Duke: 59%
18) Northwestern: 56%
19) NYU: 55%
20-21) Bowdoin: 54% (tie)
20-21) Northeastern (tie)
This is the real "top 20".
Yield determines quality?
Acceptance rate + yield rate + student stats and additionally retention rate and probably graduation rate together determine the true selectivity.
This is what the 10 million students actually acted and committed.
Selectivity and quality aren't the same thing.
What quality? school/education quality? That is part of the ultimate decisions by the students.
It's reflected in the selectivity by the students in the end.
It's not the magazines or schools themselves that determine it.
The actual paying customers(students) decide that and that's the real thing.
Anonymous
10/25/2025 11:55
Subject: Top 20-ish Colleges by YIELD RATE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In our private , in FL, the top 5 students have following characteristics:
Follow teachers instructions to a T and study a lot
Bookish but not necessarily brilliant…
It is amongst 6 to 20 th ranks where you see true brilliance , marked by some measure of rebelliousness and not toeing the line completely.
I hear the same is true in another top magnet
School nearby.
However the midwit school counselors are often unable to comprehend this reality.
It is in the (top) universities where the difference in intellect truly emerges where complexities and abstractions nullifies advantages of relentless grinding accrued during High School years pursuing simpler and straightforward coursework.
I am sure your kid is in the brilliant 6 to 20 because the top kids are bookish! What are the "midwit" counselors supposed to do, look beyond objective measures like grades and reward brilliance. There is enough subjectivity in the admissions process without having to introduce subjectivity at the school couselor level as well. If you are implying Chicago is getting those brilliant 6 to 20 kids, atleast in out school it is not. They are getting mediocre, full pay private school kids who are unlikely to get into any other top school ED or RD if they had not gotten into Chicago.
Agree. The Chicago admits at our school do not stand out one way or the other.
Anonymous
10/25/2025 11:54
Subject: Top 20-ish Colleges by YIELD RATE
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1) University of Chicago: 88%
2) MIT: 86%
3) US Naval Academy: 85%
4) Harvard: 84%
5) Stanford: 82%
6) Princeton: 76%
7-8) Yale: 70% (tie)
7-8) UPenn: 70% (tie)
9-10) Dartmouth: 69% (tie)
9-10) Barnard: 69% (tie)
11) Brown: 65%
12-13) Cornell: 64% (tie)
12-13) Columbia: 64% (tie)
14) University of Notre Dame: 62%
15-16) Caltech: 61% (tie)
15-16) Vanderbilt: 61% (tie)
17) Duke: 59%
18) Northwestern: 56%
19) NYU: 55%
20-21) Bowdoin: 54% (tie)
20-21) Northeastern (tie)
This is the real "top 20".
Lol, no. It’s just one metric of many.