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Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt is a pretty place, but I don't understand the hype. None of their departments are ranked top 10 nationally. The school gamed the USNWR metrics to ascend the rankings and now they're taking advantage of the political environment to gain an edge on peers.

Can you cite some evidence for this? Things Vandy has done in the past five years or so that we’re not also done by other top 20 schools

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Anonymous wrote:So why does Harvard receive more applications…and Penn receives 40% more applications…and when given the choice, kids pick every other top 20 school against Vanderbilt except Cornell.

Remember, nobody should trust parchment data.

Why not? It’s the only data out there that provides this information. They are even up-front if they don’t have statistically significant data for certain comparisons.

Because …. it’s bad data? 📊

Because some rando on DCUM says so? Prove it’s bad data.

Parchment itself is fairly transparent about its anemic data sets and significant gaps. “Bad” is a subjective word I use. Data scientists would concur

Show some proof its data sets are anemic…I don’t see anything on the Parchment site indicating what you just wrote.

Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt is a pretty place, but I don't understand the hype. None of their departments are ranked top 10 nationally. The school gamed the USNWR metrics to ascend the rankings and now they're taking advantage of the political environment to gain an edge on peers.

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Anonymous wrote:You could write the same exact story about Notre Dame.

Notre Dame's applicant pool is much more limited.

Nope.

Pssst. It skews really, really, really “Catholic”

There’s an opt-out phenomenon going on with the excellent ND. Denying this makes you look stupid

Duh. We know that. Doesn't mean the student bodies aren't very similar. Do you think Notre Dame students sit around and pray all day?

Anonymous wrote:Vandy has a large Catholic enrollment!

Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt is a pretty place, but I don't understand the hype. None of their departments are ranked top 10 nationally. The school gamed [b]the USNWR metrics to ascend the rankings and now they're taking advantage of the political environment to gain an edge on peers.

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Anonymous wrote:You could write the same exact story about Notre Dame.

Notre Dame's applicant pool is much more limited.

Nope.

Pssst. It skews really, really, really “Catholic”

There’s an opt-out phenomenon going on with the excellent ND. Denying this makes you look stupid

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand most of these articles. Nearly every top 100 school has seen a big jump in applications over the last 5 years.

You could write the exact same article about every top 20 school and just find and replace a couple of location-specific comments.

The one hard truth is that test required always results in fewer applications. Brown applications were through the roof through 2023 and then dropped 15% when test required. MIT applications dropped 25% when back to test required.

You will see similar drops with the other schools re instituting test required.

You clearly aren’t in the same finance/PE circle I’m in. Or private school circles. And yes many in this circle are centrist Dems too.

This article was in Bloomberg. Not somewhere else. The school is actively cultivating Wall Street (NY and Palm Beach campuses?) along with donors.

No one in my circles is talking about any other college right now for their kids - ED - other than this. People are looking for private counselors who specialize in Vanderbilt. In some ways I think it’s like the Dartmouth of the 1990s. A little insulated bubble that’s fun and studious.

There’s a weird frenzy about Vanderbilt in the top .1%. My kids private school this senior class - 10% are ED to Vanderbilt. Including class president with 3.95uw and 35.

Note: my kid doesn’t attend Vanderbilt but did get in and turned it down for a T10. Still wondering if made the right decision.

You're very self-impressed, Ms. Humblebrag. Why don't you focus on enjoying your yacht rather than blessing us average, ignorant folk with your wisdom?

This is such an exaggeration. There is some minimal basis in truth, but not much. Ironically, it actually sounds more like Duke to me, though even Duke is not this extreme.

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Just because you don’t see it doesn’t make it false. This is my reality. It might not be yours.

You’d be surprised if you asked around what the Vanderbilt feedback is amongst a certain generation of managing directors. It has changed remarkably since our time.

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Anonymous wrote:So why does Harvard receive more applications…and Penn receives 40% more applications…and when given the choice, kids pick every other top 20 school against Vanderbilt except Cornell.

Remember, nobody should trust parchment data.

Why not? It’s the only data out there that provides this information. They are even up-front if they don’t have statistically significant data for certain comparisons.

Because …. it’s bad data? 📊

Because some rando on DCUM says so? Prove it’s bad data.

Parchment itself is fairly transparent about its anemic data sets and significant gaps. “Bad” is a subjective word I use. Data scientists would concur

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Anonymous wrote:You could write the same exact story about Notre Dame.

Notre Dame's applicant pool is much more limited.

Nope.

Anonymous wrote:Very few Vandy’s admits are getting in HMS even for those free riders. Vandy is solidly second or third tier slightly behind Duke. Political environments won’t change that.

Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt is a pretty place, but I don't understand the hype. None of their departments are ranked top 10 nationally. The school gamed the USNWR metrics to ascend the rankings and now they're taking advantage of the political environment to gain an edge on peers.