Anonymous wrote:For people bringing up SSRIs it’s kind of a chicken or the egg situation. Did the SSRIs cause their issues or were they on SSRIs for their already existing issues.

These drugs are extremely risky, but highly profitable.

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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

But Minnesota has a red flag law so anyone could have reported him and his guns would have been taken away from him. I wonder if anyone made a report. I wish more people knew about these red flag laws. Maryland has one FYI so if you know of someone in a mental health crisis please report them so their guns can be taken away.

Yes. He came from a large, close, and supportive family (based on his own words) along with having friends. He speaks of all of that in the goodbye letter he left. No one noticed anything or reported this behavior? Why not????

Did you watch the video? Clearly parents that use the internet to raise him.

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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

But Minnesota has a red flag law so anyone could have reported him and his guns would have been taken away from him. I wonder if anyone made a report. I wish more people knew about these red flag laws. Maryland has one FYI so if you know of someone in a mental health crisis please report them so their guns can be taken away.

Yes. He came from a large, close, and supportive family (based on his own words) along with having friends. He speaks of all of that in the goodbye letter he left. No one noticed anything or reported this behavior? Why not????

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Anonymous wrote: I won't "take a breath" and wait. Yes, I blame MAGA. And the NRA. And Republicans. And anyone who every voted for them. You put the gun in a psycopath's hands. If it weren't for you, he would not have had a gun.

That's not true. We've always had guns. We haven't always had so many mentally ill people. Something is terribly wrong with America. I heard someone on NPR today -- Dr. Offutt -- say we wouldn't have had the shooting at the cdc if RFK JR and Trump hadn't put out so much anti-vaccine fake data. That's absurd. The guy shot at the cdc because he was mentally ill. This is not about politics or fake news or data. We have to find out why we have so many sick alienated people in our society.

Ok, so we have more mentally ill people than ever. Fine. I agree that we absolutely we should address that.

But for a quicker fix, can we also please stop selling everybody guns?

If you don't sell it to the guy, you sell it to his mother and he takes it from her. He still ends up with a gun. No guns for any civilian.

Meanwhile... where are also those NRA members now, as we move toward tyranny? Why aren't THEY doing anything?

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Anonymous wrote:For people bringing up SSRIs it’s kind of a chicken or the egg situation. Did the SSRIs cause their issues or were they on SSRIs for their already existing issues.

People are just making up stuff that fits their worldview. We don't even know the shooter's name.

You need a better news source if you’re still trying to find his/her name.

Anonymous wrote:For people bringing up SSRIs it’s kind of a chicken or the egg situation. Did the SSRIs cause their issues or were they on SSRIs for their already existing issues.

You should read this.

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-evidence-ssri-antidepressants

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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

But Minnesota has a red flag law so anyone could have reported him and his guns would have been taken away from him. I wonder if anyone made a report. I wish more people knew about these red flag laws. Maryland has one FYI so if you know of someone in a mental health crisis please report them so their guns can be taken away.

Anonymous wrote:For people bringing up SSRIs it’s kind of a chicken or the egg situation. Did the SSRIs cause their issues or were they on SSRIs for their already existing issues.

People are just making up stuff that fits their worldview. We don't even know the shooter's name.

Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

For people bringing up SSRIs it’s kind of a chicken or the egg situation. Did the SSRIs cause their issues or were they on SSRIs for their already existing issues.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if he is pro or anti-Trump. It doesn't matter what his sexual orientation or identity is. None of that matters.

If he didn't have access to guns, he couldn't have killed to innocent children. He couldn't have shot over a dozen others.

Anyone who does not see this, is complicit.

Mentality deranged people should not have access to guns. The signs were there

No citizen should. Period. People are fine before they have mental breakdowns. Our mental health care sucks. All our health care sucks. Even if it didn't, why should anyone have access to automatic weapons?? It doesn't matter what a person's politics are. I am so sick of this. Those poor children.

Then we have to agree to disagree. The vast majority of people can be trusted with guns.

Who has the responsibility to determine that? What if this guy presented as completely normal and trustworthy? What if someone is as stable as can be and then has a psychotic episode? What if someone is a charming in-control sociopath who can fool anyone, including a salesman looking to earn his wages in the Walmart gun department? What do you say then? "Oooops! Sorry, kids are dead. Walmart guy's bad." You are part of the problem if you voted for this. The blood is on your hands.

Read up on this guy. There were many, many warnings. A lot of news is coming out now.

Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

There are clips of these videos on a number of the large social media platforms

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Anonymous wrote: I won't "take a breath" and wait. Yes, I blame MAGA. And the NRA. And Republicans. And anyone who every voted for them. You put the gun in a psycopath's hands. If it weren't for you, he would not have had a gun.

That's not true. We've always had guns. We haven't always had so many mentally ill people. Something is terribly wrong with America. I heard someone on NPR today -- Dr. Offutt -- say we wouldn't have had the shooting at the cdc if RFK JR and Trump hadn't put out so much anti-vaccine fake data. That's absurd. The guy shot at the cdc because he was mentally ill. This is not about politics or fake news or data. We have to find out why we have so many sick alienated people in our society.

Ok, so we have more mentally ill people than ever. Fine. I agree that we absolutely we should address that.

But for a quicker fix, can we also please stop selling everybody guns?

If you don't sell it to the guy, you sell it to his mother and he takes it from her. He still ends up with a gun. No guns for any civilian.

DP.

Requires changing the Constitution.

In the meantime, we CAN immediately take action on mental health, online threats, and gun regulation that will both pass legal muster and be politically feasible.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I won't "take a breath" and wait. Yes, I blame MAGA. And the NRA. And Republicans. And anyone who every voted for them. You put the gun in a psycopath's hands. If it weren't for you, he would not have had a gun.

That's not true. We've always had guns. We haven't always had so many mentally ill people. Something is terribly wrong with America. I heard someone on NPR today -- Dr. Offutt -- say we wouldn't have had the shooting at the cdc if RFK JR and Trump hadn't put out so much anti-vaccine fake data. That's absurd. The guy shot at the cdc because he was mentally ill. This is not about politics or fake news or data. We have to find out why we have so many sick alienated people in our society.

Ok, so we have more mentally ill people than ever. Fine. I agree that we absolutely we should address that.

But for a quicker fix, can we also please stop selling everybody guns?

If you don't sell it to the guy, you sell it to his mother and he takes it from her. He still ends up with a gun. No guns for any civilian.

DP.

Requires changing the Constitution.

In the meantime, we CAN immediately take action on mental health, online threats, and gun regulation that will both pass legal muster and be politically feasible.

I don’t know what this says about me or this country but one of my first thoughts on reading the article was to be grateful he was shooting with a ridiel and not an ar~15. Witnesses said it sounded like he had to reload several times. If he’d had a weapon like the uvalde shooter, there would be dozens of kids dead. I don’t know the Minnesota gun laws but this is not like the shootings we’ve seen in Florida or Texas.

Crazy people will do crazy things but a crazy person with a knife is better than one with a rifle. And a crazy person with a hunting rifle is better than one with an AR-15. Gun control does save lives. I’ll also be interested to see if anyone ever reported him on the state red flag law.