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Anonymous wrote:athletes are ridiculed at Wesleyan by everyone except the athletes

Many of them do stand out but I think you are going overboard. Many of them are self-aware about their differences and try to blend in. And contrary to the rest of this thread, the vast majority of them are academically on par with (or even academically stronger than) non-athletes.

What are you talking about? They got in because they are athletes. Most rejected applicants were “academicallly on par.”

Anonymous wrote:Please. Just stop the NESCAC-bashing. NESCAC grade non-athlete. I loved what athletics brought to our campus life and have a lot of respect for the student-athletes. Many of us decry the Trump administration’s lack of respect and public put-downs but we need to look in the mirror and examine our own behaviors and attitudes.

Great. A self-hating NARP.

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is the SLACs love athletes because they are more successful post graduation and are better alumni because they tend to give back more and help recent graduates get job offers. Athletes bring a lot to the table from team work, competition, dealing with adversity and failure, commitment, leadership - all traits that employers are looking for.

You have a causation problem. You need to get your chickens and eggs straight.

If it was a causation problem, there would not be such a high correlation between female executives and whether they played college sports.

What most on here ignore is the fact that athletes are generally more involved and give back more to their school than non-athletes. There are numerous studies that also show that successful sports teams translate into more and bigger donations. While not exactly on point but there was a study done that stated Nick Saban's success at Alabama resulted in an additional billion dollars of investment and donations to the academic side of the university that wouldn't have occurred but for his success. That's why schools do it.

Athletes get job networks; it’s like being in a frat or sorority. Now, do they get those job networks and have ultimate success - male and female - because of their special characteristics as people, or because they are athletes?

In defending athletic recruiting by saying, well, they are ultimately more successful so it is justified, you are inadvertently showing how it is unjustified: they got in because they are athletes; and they are getting jobs because they are athletes. In neither case should they be accruing such benefits.

Thanks for pointing out that the college athlete problem is not only an admissions problem, but also a career outcomes problem. Now we have double the reason for getting rid of athlete preferences!

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is the SLACs love athletes because they are more successful post graduation and are better alumni because they tend to give back more and help recent graduates get job offers. Athletes bring a lot to the table from team work, competition, dealing with adversity and failure, commitment, leadership - all traits that employers are looking for.

You have a causation problem. You need to get your chickens and eggs straight.

If it was a causation problem, there would not be such a high correlation between female executives and whether they played college sports.

What most on here ignore is the fact that athletes are generally more involved and give back more to their school than non-athletes. There are numerous studies that also show that successful sports teams translate into more and bigger donations. While not exactly on point but there was a study done that stated Nick Saban's success at Alabama resulted in an additional billion dollars of investment and donations to the academic side of the university that wouldn't have occurred but for his success. That's why schools do it.

First part about athletes being more involved and giving back is true. Second part about them driving donations is only true at a very limited number of schools for a limited number of sports. Do you think having a good field hockey or squash team is driving big donations at Bates (I have no idea if they really are good so don't nit pick me on this)? This discussion is about smaller schools and the success of their athletic teams has very little impact on fundraising.

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Anonymous wrote:The insta posts are truly pathetic for the Nescac lax bros and football meatheads. Thanking the world for being blessed to have the talent and support to attend a 2000 student school as a full pay mediocre athlete - it’s basically the helicopter moms and daddy-ball coaches who have had excessive control and influence on kiddos sports life not wanting it to end after hs - and keep kiddo in the sport for 4 more years. The parent tailgating before these Nescac games is hysterical-

So your kid got cut from his 8th grade travel team and you're still mad about it.

weird response - the issues are valid why attack the poster?

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is the SLACs love athletes because they are more successful post graduation and are better alumni because they tend to give back more and help recent graduates get job offers. Athletes bring a lot to the table from team work, competition, dealing with adversity and failure, commitment, leadership - all traits that employers are looking for.

You have a causation problem. You need to get your chickens and eggs straight.

If it was a causation problem, there would not be such a high correlation between female executives and whether they played college sports.

What most on here ignore is the fact that athletes are generally more involved and give back more to their school than non-athletes. There are numerous studies that also show that successful sports teams translate into more and bigger donations. While not exactly on point but there was a study done that stated Nick Saban's success at Alabama resulted in an additional billion dollars of investment and donations to the academic side of the university that wouldn't have occurred but for his success. That's why schools do it.

Anonymous wrote:The insta posts are truly pathetic for the Nescac lax bros and football meatheads. Thanking the world for being blessed to have the talent and support to attend a 2000 student school as a full pay mediocre athlete - it’s basically the helicopter moms and daddy-ball coaches who have had excessive control and influence on kiddos sports life not wanting it to end after hs - and keep kiddo in the sport for 4 more years. The parent tailgating before these Nescac games is hysterical-

I really like this guy

Please. Just stop the NESCAC-bashing. NESCAC grade non-athlete. I loved what athletics brought to our campus life and have a lot of respect for the student-athletes. Many of us decry the Trump administration’s lack of respect and public put-downs but we need to look in the mirror and examine our own behaviors and attitudes.

Anonymous wrote:The insta posts are truly pathetic for the Nescac lax bros and football meatheads. Thanking the world for being blessed to have the talent and support to attend a 2000 student school as a full pay mediocre athlete - it’s basically the helicopter moms and daddy-ball coaches who have had excessive control and influence on kiddos sports life not wanting it to end after hs - and keep kiddo in the sport for 4 more years. The parent tailgating before these Nescac games is hysterical-

So your kid got cut from his 8th grade travel team and you're still mad about it.

Anonymous wrote:athletes are ridiculed at Wesleyan by everyone except the athletes

Our Wes tour guide was clearly disdainful of athletes.

He was a fat incel nerd.

The insta posts are truly pathetic for the Nescac lax bros and football meatheads. Thanking the world for being blessed to have the talent and support to attend a 2000 student school as a full pay mediocre athlete - it’s basically the helicopter moms and daddy-ball coaches who have had excessive control and influence on kiddos sports life not wanting it to end after hs - and keep kiddo in the sport for 4 more years. The parent tailgating before these Nescac games is hysterical-

Anonymous wrote:athletes are ridiculed at Wesleyan by everyone except the athletes

Anonymous wrote:athletes are ridiculed at Wesleyan by everyone except the athletes

Being ridiculed by the gender studies girls with arm pit hair and nose rings on campus at Wesleyan isn't the flex you think it is.

Anonymous wrote:athletes are ridiculed at Wesleyan by everyone except the athletes

Many of them do stand out but I think you are going overboard. Many of them are self-aware about their differences and try to blend in. And contrary to the rest of this thread, the vast majority of them are academically on par with (or even academically stronger than) non-athletes.

athletes are ridiculed at Wesleyan by everyone except the athletes