Anonymous wrote:Because it’s not actually about the food. It’s about control.

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Anonymous wrote:DH is not unreasonable to want change. PP misrepresents what grandparents are doing and how often. Big difference between junk food all the time and once or twice a month...

I have older kids and the cultural around junk food is HUGE. It’s daily from school - at a minimum (school breakfast). Then add in school parties, teacher rewards, kids sending in birthday treats, parents sending in treats for sports practice or games, weekend get togethers, parties or day trips usually involve desserts and such. Now add in grandparents frequently buying treats and soda at restaurants. That is a LOT of junk and that’s without a parent even keeping it at home. Literally no kid is deprived of junk food these days, regardless of what parents don’t buy

Older than what? Mine are in their 20s, and despite a youthful love of Froot Loops (which I did not buy for them, but did let them eat if the opportunity presented itself), they are now all healthy eaters. Not because I nagged them, but because they figured it out.

Then maybe you shouldn’t comment bc you don’t have school age kids anymore. The junk food bombardment is extremely pervasive now-including in schools, where they do in fact, provide Fruit Loops, Cocoa Puffs, and chocolate muffins daily, on top or a myriad of other junk. And that’s just at school.

UH, actually they seem the perfect person to weigh-in, given all the accusations that OP's poor abused children are all going to develop eating disorders and/or be obese because they're subjected to rigid healthy eating rules in earlier childhood. PP's been there and is telling you how it turned out in adulthood for her kids.

No, she basically said she let her kids have fruit loops once in a while and her kids are fine. But kids now are given much more junk food than ever before, by people other than their parents. Including OPs kid who sounds like goes to public school where kids all are given a “free” junk food breakfast (didn’t have that when PPs kids were young) and the sports snacks/treats have exploded. Plus OPs grandparents are giving them treats 5+ times per week.

Unless you were raising kids 20 years ago, you don't know how pervasive junk food was then (very, in case you actually want to know). Everything you mention was around then, possibly even junkier and more frequent.

Yeah, I was around then. And no- it’s worse now. If you aren’t raising kids now you have no idea

Around then, OK. Were you raising kids then? And also now? Like, for 20 years?

NP but hi! Oldest kid is 26, youngest is 11 (yeah, whatever - this is how it worked out) and what I see is junk food was way more prolific and unavoidable THEN as compared to now.

Yes, yes, yes.

No oranges or apple slices after soccer games. It was all brightly colored candy, chips and red dye no 7 sweetened gatorade for a healthy drink or cherry cream soda for a fun drink.

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Anonymous wrote:DH is not unreasonable to want change. PP misrepresents what grandparents are doing and how often. Big difference between junk food all the time and once or twice a month...

I have older kids and the cultural around junk food is HUGE. It’s daily from school - at a minimum (school breakfast). Then add in school parties, teacher rewards, kids sending in birthday treats, parents sending in treats for sports practice or games, weekend get togethers, parties or day trips usually involve desserts and such. Now add in grandparents frequently buying treats and soda at restaurants. That is a LOT of junk and that’s without a parent even keeping it at home. Literally no kid is deprived of junk food these days, regardless of what parents don’t buy

Older than what? Mine are in their 20s, and despite a youthful love of Froot Loops (which I did not buy for them, but did let them eat if the opportunity presented itself), they are now all healthy eaters. Not because I nagged them, but because they figured it out.

Then maybe you shouldn’t comment bc you don’t have school age kids anymore. The junk food bombardment is extremely pervasive now-including in schools, where they do in fact, provide Fruit Loops, Cocoa Puffs, and chocolate muffins daily, on top or a myriad of other junk. And that’s just at school.

UH, actually they seem the perfect person to weigh-in, given all the accusations that OP's poor abused children are all going to develop eating disorders and/or be obese because they're subjected to rigid healthy eating rules in earlier childhood. PP's been there and is telling you how it turned out in adulthood for her kids.

No, she basically said she let her kids have fruit loops once in a while and her kids are fine. But kids now are given much more junk food than ever before, by people other than their parents. Including OPs kid who sounds like goes to public school where kids all are given a “free” junk food breakfast (didn’t have that when PPs kids were young) and the sports snacks/treats have exploded. Plus OPs grandparents are giving them treats 5+ times per week.

Unless you were raising kids 20 years ago, you don't know how pervasive junk food was then (very, in case you actually want to know). Everything you mention was around then, possibly even junkier and more frequent.

Yeah, I was around then. And no- it’s worse now. If you aren’t raising kids now you have no idea

Around then, OK. Were you raising kids then? And also now? Like, for 20 years?

NP but hi! Oldest kid is 26, youngest is 11 (yeah, whatever - this is how it worked out) and what I see is junk food was way more prolific and unavoidable THEN as compared to now.

Is your youngest at a public school that gives out free breakfast and lunch to all? Are they in organized sports? These alone are vastly different than even 10 yrs ago, i.e., lots of junk. It isn’t that school food used to be healthy- but now they actively give out junk food, for free, to all kids multiple times per day. And youth sports used to be you got orange slices and water after game days. That was it. Now the snack sign up is insane. It’s like a competition of who can send in the “best” snacks and it isn’t limited game days. Parents are constantly sending in junk snacks, decorated cookies, you name it. Look at statistics. Kids are more overweight/obese than ever before. They are definitely getting fed more junk and processed foods now and moving less, than ever before

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Anonymous wrote:DH is not unreasonable to want change. PP misrepresents what grandparents are doing and how often. Big difference between junk food all the time and once or twice a month...

I have older kids and the cultural around junk food is HUGE. It’s daily from school - at a minimum (school breakfast). Then add in school parties, teacher rewards, kids sending in birthday treats, parents sending in treats for sports practice or games, weekend get togethers, parties or day trips usually involve desserts and such. Now add in grandparents frequently buying treats and soda at restaurants. That is a LOT of junk and that’s without a parent even keeping it at home. Literally no kid is deprived of junk food these days, regardless of what parents don’t buy

Older than what? Mine are in their 20s, and despite a youthful love of Froot Loops (which I did not buy for them, but did let them eat if the opportunity presented itself), they are now all healthy eaters. Not because I nagged them, but because they figured it out.

Then maybe you shouldn’t comment bc you don’t have school age kids anymore. The junk food bombardment is extremely pervasive now-including in schools, where they do in fact, provide Fruit Loops, Cocoa Puffs, and chocolate muffins daily, on top or a myriad of other junk. And that’s just at school.

UH, actually they seem the perfect person to weigh-in, given all the accusations that OP's poor abused children are all going to develop eating disorders and/or be obese because they're subjected to rigid healthy eating rules in earlier childhood. PP's been there and is telling you how it turned out in adulthood for her kids.

No, she basically said she let her kids have fruit loops once in a while and her kids are fine. But kids now are given much more junk food than ever before, by people other than their parents. Including OPs kid who sounds like goes to public school where kids all are given a “free” junk food breakfast (didn’t have that when PPs kids were young) and the sports snacks/treats have exploded. Plus OPs grandparents are giving them treats 5+ times per week.

Unless you were raising kids 20 years ago, you don't know how pervasive junk food was then (very, in case you actually want to know). Everything you mention was around then, possibly even junkier and more frequent.

Yeah, I was around then. And no- it’s worse now. If you aren’t raising kids now you have no idea

Around then, OK. Were you raising kids then? And also now? Like, for 20 years?

NP but hi! Oldest kid is 26, youngest is 11 (yeah, whatever - this is how it worked out) and what I see is junk food was way more prolific and unavoidable THEN as compared to now.

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Anonymous wrote:DH is not unreasonable to want change. PP misrepresents what grandparents are doing and how often. Big difference between junk food all the time and once or twice a month...

I have older kids and the cultural around junk food is HUGE. It’s daily from school - at a minimum (school breakfast). Then add in school parties, teacher rewards, kids sending in birthday treats, parents sending in treats for sports practice or games, weekend get togethers, parties or day trips usually involve desserts and such. Now add in grandparents frequently buying treats and soda at restaurants. That is a LOT of junk and that’s without a parent even keeping it at home. Literally no kid is deprived of junk food these days, regardless of what parents don’t buy

Older than what? Mine are in their 20s, and despite a youthful love of Froot Loops (which I did not buy for them, but did let them eat if the opportunity presented itself), they are now all healthy eaters. Not because I nagged them, but because they figured it out.

Then maybe you shouldn’t comment bc you don’t have school age kids anymore. The junk food bombardment is extremely pervasive now-including in schools, where they do in fact, provide Fruit Loops, Cocoa Puffs, and chocolate muffins daily, on top or a myriad of other junk. And that’s just at school.

UH, actually they seem the perfect person to weigh-in, given all the accusations that OP's poor abused children are all going to develop eating disorders and/or be obese because they're subjected to rigid healthy eating rules in earlier childhood. PP's been there and is telling you how it turned out in adulthood for her kids.

No, she basically said she let her kids have fruit loops once in a while and her kids are fine. But kids now are given much more junk food than ever before, by people other than their parents. Including OPs kid who sounds like goes to public school where kids all are given a “free” junk food breakfast (didn’t have that when PPs kids were young) and the sports snacks/treats have exploded. Plus OPs grandparents are giving them treats 5+ times per week.

Unless you were raising kids 20 years ago, you don't know how pervasive junk food was then (very, in case you actually want to know). Everything you mention was around then, possibly even junkier and more frequent.

Yeah, I was around then. And no- it’s worse now. If you aren’t raising kids now you have no idea

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Anonymous wrote:DH is not unreasonable to want change. PP misrepresents what grandparents are doing and how often. Big difference between junk food all the time and once or twice a month...

I have older kids and the cultural around junk food is HUGE. It’s daily from school - at a minimum (school breakfast). Then add in school parties, teacher rewards, kids sending in birthday treats, parents sending in treats for sports practice or games, weekend get togethers, parties or day trips usually involve desserts and such. Now add in grandparents frequently buying treats and soda at restaurants. That is a LOT of junk and that’s without a parent even keeping it at home. Literally no kid is deprived of junk food these days, regardless of what parents don’t buy

Older than what? Mine are in their 20s, and despite a youthful love of Froot Loops (which I did not buy for them, but did let them eat if the opportunity presented itself), they are now all healthy eaters. Not because I nagged them, but because they figured it out.

Then maybe you shouldn’t comment bc you don’t have school age kids anymore. The junk food bombardment is extremely pervasive now-including in schools, where they do in fact, provide Fruit Loops, Cocoa Puffs, and chocolate muffins daily, on top or a myriad of other junk. And that’s just at school.

UH, actually they seem the perfect person to weigh-in, given all the accusations that OP's poor abused children are all going to develop eating disorders and/or be obese because they're subjected to rigid healthy eating rules in earlier childhood. PP's been there and is telling you how it turned out in adulthood for her kids.

No, she basically said she let her kids have fruit loops once in a while and her kids are fine. But kids now are given much more junk food than ever before, by people other than their parents. Including OPs kid who sounds like goes to public school where kids all are given a “free” junk food breakfast (didn’t have that when PPs kids were young) and the sports snacks/treats have exploded. Plus OPs grandparents are giving them treats 5+ times per week.

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Anonymous wrote:DH is not unreasonable to want change. PP misrepresents what grandparents are doing and how often. Big difference between junk food all the time and once or twice a month...

I have older kids and the cultural around junk food is HUGE. It’s daily from school - at a minimum (school breakfast). Then add in school parties, teacher rewards, kids sending in birthday treats, parents sending in treats for sports practice or games, weekend get togethers, parties or day trips usually involve desserts and such. Now add in grandparents frequently buying treats and soda at restaurants. That is a LOT of junk and that’s without a parent even keeping it at home. Literally no kid is deprived of junk food these days, regardless of what parents don’t buy

Older than what? Mine are in their 20s, and despite a youthful love of Froot Loops (which I did not buy for them, but did let them eat if the opportunity presented itself), they are now all healthy eaters. Not because I nagged them, but because they figured it out.

Then maybe you shouldn’t comment bc you don’t have school age kids anymore. The junk food bombardment is extremely pervasive now-including in schools, where they do in fact, provide Fruit Loops, Cocoa Puffs, and chocolate muffins daily, on top or a myriad of other junk. And that’s just at school.

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Anonymous wrote:DH is not unreasonable to want change. PP misrepresents what grandparents are doing and how often. Big difference between junk food all the time and once or twice a month...

I have older kids and the cultural around junk food is HUGE. It’s daily from school - at a minimum (school breakfast). Then add in school parties, teacher rewards, kids sending in birthday treats, parents sending in treats for sports practice or games, weekend get togethers, parties or day trips usually involve desserts and such. Now add in grandparents frequently buying treats and soda at restaurants. That is a LOT of junk and that’s without a parent even keeping it at home. Literally no kid is deprived of junk food these days, regardless of what parents don’t buy

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s not actually about the food. It’s about control.

Disagree. It is about the food. There is so much garbage food being bombarded at kids from all directions- including school. It’s insane and makes normal parents wanting their kids to eat reasonable homemade foods seem insane. And it is never “just this once.” In our current society, kids are given garbage processed foods daily by everyone around them them- even if their parents dont

I think it’s about being disrespected by the grandparents. I don’t care much about junk food specifically, but if I tell my parents to do something in regard to my children, I expect them to do it. Not complying absolutely would mean that we would see them less often.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s not actually about the food. It’s about control.

Disagree. It is about the food. There is so much garbage food being bombarded at kids from all directions- including school. It’s insane and makes normal parents wanting their kids to eat reasonable homemade foods seem insane. And it is never “just this once.” In our current society, kids are given garbage processed foods daily by everyone around them them- even if their parents dont