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Anonymous wrote:And adding to my post, I’ve been up grading for 4 hours already today. I know many elementary teachers have been working this morning too. It’s not a contest but I just don’t understand why your blood is boiling if a teacher you don’t know can leave on a lady block planning. I think it’s great they have an understanding administration and would love to know which school it is so we can both apply!

You think you can walk into a new school asking for that schedule that allows you to leave 60-90 mins early or come to work 60-90 minutes late? People are not stupid, so every single person is requesting that schedule. Not just you. What happens if every single teacher demand that schedule from the “understanding administration?” Are they able to allow everyone to do it? And if they cannot, do you think that impacts staff morale?

Why are you so angry? I’m not switching jobs. And yes, I think everyone should. That was the point of my post. Why isn’t it a blanket policy that people can come in late, leave early or leave during lunch if their planning backs up to it? I don’t have it where I am now but doing care if others do nor am I angry over this. I am not sitting there yelling “it’s not fair!” I don’t think they aren’t working. They are likely working other hours at night or on the weekends. I think everyone should MYOB and as long as people get their jobs done, to each their own.

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Anonymous wrote:And adding to my post, I’ve been up grading for 4 hours already today. I know many elementary teachers have been working this morning too. It’s not a contest but I just don’t understand why your blood is boiling if a teacher you don’t know can leave on a lady block planning. I think it’s great they have an understanding administration and would love to know which school it is so we can both apply!

You think you can walk into a new school asking for that schedule that allows you to leave 60-90 mins early or come to work 60-90 minutes late? People are not stupid, so every single person is requesting that schedule. Not just you. What happens if every single teacher demand that schedule from the “understanding administration?” Are they able to allow everyone to do it? And if they cannot, do you think that impacts staff morale?

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia is "A Right To Work State", which to my knowledge, means unions are pretty powerless

Well, you're wrong about that. We won collective bargaining rights. No one can force a teacher to be in a union ("right to work" really means right to get a free ride from the collective bargaining work of union members) but unions took a significant step this year in making working conditions more manageable for teachers, at least in buildings where principals routinely violated norms.

How?? We used to be able to leave early or come in late if we didn't have a class, and now we have to be in the building for all of the "contract hours." We also have an extra couple of hours of some random hall or lunch duty that we never had before. We got bigger class sizes too, and all of this in exchange for a small raise that most of us didn't need. Some bargain.

As an ES teacher, this makes my bloody boil, and it speaks to the entitlement of secondary folks that you so brazenly state it. I hope all MS/HS folks aren’t like this, and it makes me quite glad that you’re now being held to the same time standard.

I’m a secondary teacher who has worked at schools who haven’t been so flexible but don’t understand your anger. This is obviously dependent on the supervisor. Why do you want others to have inflexible jobs just because you do/did? It’s like those who want others to report to the office when they can telework just because and because it’s not fair. I never understood that mentality. It seems very immature.

DP. Also a teacher. It’s stupid for a teacher to admit that they don’t even work your contract hours on a public board as part of a complaint about “how it’s worse” these days. Teachers who work to the contract hours are already seen as lazy bums, but to admit they do even less and complaining about not being able to do it? So how many hours do they actually work? Can a teacher schedule lunch & planning back to back and take off 75-90 minutes each day if they place it in the beginning or at the end of the day? And then go complain about how there’s no time to do anything and no time to eat?

I actually saw a teacher who did this at a school I worked at and got away with it for years due to being in the inner circle with the “admins.” Yes it absolutely is a thing. Needless to say staff morale was very low and that school had a ton of staff turnovers every year.

Explain why every single teacher in that school can’t all place their lunch + planning at the front or the back of the day and just leave to do whatever they want? Or is this some perks only reserved for special people in the school?

People think teachers are overworked, I can tell you the only people who are overworked are those who cares.

Anonymous wrote:And adding to my post, I’ve been up grading for 4 hours already today. I know many elementary teachers have been working this morning too. It’s not a contest but I just don’t understand why your blood is boiling if a teacher you don’t know can leave on a lady block planning. I think it’s great they have an understanding administration and would love to know which school it is so we can both apply!

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia is "A Right To Work State", which to my knowledge, means unions are pretty powerless

Well, you're wrong about that. We won collective bargaining rights. No one can force a teacher to be in a union ("right to work" really means right to get a free ride from the collective bargaining work of union members) but unions took a significant step this year in making working conditions more manageable for teachers, at least in buildings where principals routinely violated norms.

How?? We used to be able to leave early or come in late if we didn't have a class, and now we have to be in the building for all of the "contract hours." We also have an extra couple of hours of some random hall or lunch duty that we never had before. We got bigger class sizes too, and all of this in exchange for a small raise that most of us didn't need. Some bargain.

As an ES teacher, this makes my bloody boil, and it speaks to the entitlement of secondary folks that you so brazenly state it. I hope all MS/HS folks aren’t like this, and it makes me quite glad that you’re now being held to the same time standard.

I’m a secondary teacher who has worked at schools who haven’t been so flexible but don’t understand your anger. This is obviously dependent on the supervisor. Why do you want others to have inflexible jobs just because you do/did? It’s like those who want others to report to the office when they can telework just because and because it’s not fair. I never understood that mentality. It seems very immature.

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Anonymous wrote:Now there is a movement to impeach the FEA board. It's definitely time to switch unions. FEA also has someone from HR administration on the board now, definitely a conflict of interest.

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Make the switch. I did years ago when I found out FCFT didn’t have administrators as members.

Anonymous wrote:Now there is a movement to impeach the FEA board. It's definitely time to switch unions. FEA also has someone from HR administration on the board now, definitely a conflict of interest.

Anonymous wrote:I was an elementary teacher. I understand the comments of both.

But, honestly, the union always advocated for the high school teachers. For years, elementary teachers did not have a duty free lunch. If a specialist was absent--no planning period. Need to use the restroom? Hope the kids in your class are well behaved.

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia is "A Right To Work State", which to my knowledge, means unions are pretty powerless

Well, you're wrong about that. We won collective bargaining rights. No one can force a teacher to be in a union ("right to work" really means right to get a free ride from the collective bargaining work of union members) but unions took a significant step this year in making working conditions more manageable for teachers, at least in buildings where principals routinely violated norms.

How?? We used to be able to leave early or come in late if we didn't have a class, and now we have to be in the building for all of the "contract hours." We also have an extra couple of hours of some random hall or lunch duty that we never had before. We got bigger class sizes too, and all of this in exchange for a small raise that most of us didn't need. Some bargain.

As an ES teacher, this makes my bloody boil, and it speaks to the entitlement of secondary folks that you so brazenly state it. I hope all MS/HS folks aren’t like this, and it makes me quite glad that you’re now being held to the same time standard.

Anonymous wrote:I was an elementary teacher. I understand the comments of both.

But, honestly, the union always advocated for the high school teachers. For years, elementary teachers did not have a duty free lunch. If a specialist was absent--no planning period. Need to use the restroom? Hope the kids in your class are well behaved.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia is "A Right To Work State", which to my knowledge, means unions are pretty powerless

Well, you're wrong about that. We won collective bargaining rights. No one can force a teacher to be in a union ("right to work" really means right to get a free ride from the collective bargaining work of union members) but unions took a significant step this year in making working conditions more manageable for teachers, at least in buildings where principals routinely violated norms.

How?? We used to be able to leave early or come in late if we didn't have a class, and now we have to be in the building for all of the "contract hours." We also have an extra couple of hours of some random hall or lunch duty that we never had before. We got bigger class sizes too, and all of this in exchange for a small raise that most of us didn't need. Some bargain.