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Anonymous wrote:July 10, 2025 article: “New Data Shows Workers Are Mostly Ign0ring RTO Orders”

Link or at least name the paper.

This article has nothing to do with feds..

https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/new-data-shows-workers-are-mostly-ignoring-return-to-office-orders/91202144

Why would Feds be any different?

Footnote: this link was posted multiple times but it kept getting deleted. Someone really doesn’t want the truth to get out.

Because it's timesheet fraud and they fire you, genius.

How is it timesheet fraud if location isn’t reflected on the timesheet?

For most Fed time sheet programs, it is. As part of my time I record if it was in office or telework, and if telework, what kind - recurring or situational.

How is it fraud if you put telework on timesheet? You can’t fire someone just for teleworking (especially if your CBA says you can).

But of course, all you sheep blindly do whatever you’re told. That’s why you’re in government; private sector employees have personal agency and take calculated risks. Sad.

At my agency you sign an agreement stating where you will work. Some people are full time remote, some in the office 5 days and some a mix. That agreement has the address to location(s) you agree to work.

The details are added to your timesheet, so if you work M, W,F from home and Tu, Th in the office that is listed. If you verify and are not at the location you agreed to for those specific days, it is fraud and you can be fired.

I’m Muslim and actually did used to attend Friday prayers when we used to telework. My issue is that I’m honestly scared to ask for religious telework. I feel it will label me. Also it’s definitely unfair for federal government workers with kids for there to be a religious telework exception and not a parenting telework exception. My fear is asking to telework on fridays, will cause many of my coworkers to resent me because as far as I know, there are no other Jews and Muslims in my department.

Anonymous wrote:It's harder to fire someone with a religious RA as it makes supervisors nervous. Speaking of, I live near a synagogue and a mosque. Which one has the most potential for telework? I don't mind giving up Saturday mornings to join either.

Would go with the mosque. Friday prayer is smack in the middle of the days necessitating telework. Also Islam doesn’t require you to “join” a mosque and conversion is easy. On the flip side, conversion is so easy and being Muslim is so out there, that there’s a possibility that none of your supervisors believe you lol.

If I sit on our office balcony all day in a chair with a laptop, does that count as “in office”?

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Anonymous wrote:July 10, 2025 article: “New Data Shows Workers Are Mostly Ign0ring RTO Orders”

Link or at least name the paper.

This article has nothing to do with feds..

https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/new-data-shows-workers-are-mostly-ignoring-return-to-office-orders/91202144

Why would Feds be any different?

Footnote: this link was posted multiple times but it kept getting deleted. Someone really doesn’t want the truth to get out.

Because it's timesheet fraud and they fire you, genius.

How is it timesheet fraud if location isn’t reflected on the timesheet?

Np. We have telework or not on our timesheets.

If Muslims were granted full telework for the month of Ramadan, Islam would see a massive increase in new converts.

I’m seriously considering this for Shabbat on Fridays. Just concerned this will place a target on me-I’d like to trust this guidance but you just don’t know with this Admin. Could be a bait and switch.

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Anonymous wrote:July 10, 2025 article: “New Data Shows Workers Are Mostly Ign0ring RTO Orders”

Link or at least name the paper.

This article has nothing to do with feds..

https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/new-data-shows-workers-are-mostly-ignoring-return-to-office-orders/91202144

Why would Feds be any different?

Footnote: this link was posted multiple times but it kept getting deleted. Someone really doesn’t want the truth to get out.

Because it's timesheet fraud and they fire you, genius.

How is it timesheet fraud if location isn’t reflected on the timesheet?

Because it is reflected on the timesheet. We have to affirmatively enter that we’re at our official duty station. The more you post the more it becomes clear you have zero knowledge of federal employment.

This was my first post on this thread. I am a federal employee. We do not certify our location at my agency.

It's not location, it's telework specifically, and every executive branch agency tracks it because it's required.

In our system, it's classified as "work time transaction." "Regular Base Pay" is the default, but if you've teleworked during the pay period, you need to enter a separate line in your timesheet with the work transaction "Telework" (there are several types of telework to choose from).

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Anonymous wrote:July 10, 2025 article: “New Data Shows Workers Are Mostly Ign0ring RTO Orders”

Link or at least name the paper.

This article has nothing to do with feds..

https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/new-data-shows-workers-are-mostly-ignoring-return-to-office-orders/91202144

Why would Feds be any different?

Footnote: this link was posted multiple times but it kept getting deleted. Someone really doesn’t want the truth to get out.

Because it's timesheet fraud and they fire you, genius.

How is it timesheet fraud if location isn’t reflected on the timesheet?

Because it is reflected on the timesheet. We have to affirmatively enter that we’re at our official duty station. The more you post the more it becomes clear you have zero knowledge of federal employment.

This was my first post on this thread. I am a federal employee. We do not certify our location at my agency.

It's not location, it's telework specifically, and every executive branch agency tracks it because it's required.

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Anonymous wrote:July 10, 2025 article: “New Data Shows Workers Are Mostly Ign0ring RTO Orders”

Link or at least name the paper.

This article has nothing to do with feds..

https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/new-data-shows-workers-are-mostly-ignoring-return-to-office-orders/91202144

Why would Feds be any different?

Footnote: this link was posted multiple times but it kept getting deleted. Someone really doesn’t want the truth to get out.

Because it's timesheet fraud and they fire you, genius.

How is it timesheet fraud if location isn’t reflected on the timesheet?

Because it is reflected on the timesheet. We have to affirmatively enter that we’re at our official duty station. The more you post the more it becomes clear you have zero knowledge of federal employment.

This was my first post on this thread. I am a federal employee. We do not certify our location at my agency.

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Anonymous wrote:July 10, 2025 article: “New Data Shows Workers Are Mostly Ign0ring RTO Orders”

Link or at least name the paper.

This article has nothing to do with feds..

https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/new-data-shows-workers-are-mostly-ignoring-return-to-office-orders/91202144

Why would Feds be any different?

Footnote: this link was posted multiple times but it kept getting deleted. Someone really doesn’t want the truth to get out.

Because it's timesheet fraud and they fire you, genius.

How is it timesheet fraud if location isn’t reflected on the timesheet?

For most Fed time sheet programs, it is. As part of my time I record if it was in office or telework, and if telework, what kind - recurring or situational.

How is it fraud if you put telework on timesheet? You can’t fire someone just for teleworking (especially if your CBA says you can).

But of course, all you sheep blindly do whatever you’re told. That’s why you’re in government; private sector employees have personal agency and take calculated risks. Sad.

If you coded it correctly you could be fired for insubordination. Almost everyone has received a direct order from their agency to RTO.

Yes. Our department sent out a "you're 5 days a week now RTO or we fire you starting tomorrow" e-mail. To everyone. Absolutely they will fire you.

And if you don’t RTO then you’re a lazy, useless, fraudulent waste of tax dollars. But if you do you’re a pathetic sheep just following orders.

This year has been proof that so many Americans are dumb enough to believe whatever MAGA narrative they’re being spoon fed, even when it starts to contradict itself.

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Anonymous wrote:July 10, 2025 article: “New Data Shows Workers Are Mostly Ign0ring RTO Orders”

Link or at least name the paper.

This article has nothing to do with feds..

https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/new-data-shows-workers-are-mostly-ignoring-return-to-office-orders/91202144

Why would Feds be any different?

Footnote: this link was posted multiple times but it kept getting deleted. Someone really doesn’t want the truth to get out.

Because it's timesheet fraud and they fire you, genius.

How is it timesheet fraud if location isn’t reflected on the timesheet?

Because it is reflected on the timesheet. We have to affirmatively enter that we’re at our official duty station. The more you post the more it becomes clear you have zero knowledge of federal employment.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:July 10, 2025 article: “New Data Shows Workers Are Mostly Ign0ring RTO Orders”

Link or at least name the paper.

This article has nothing to do with feds..

https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/new-data-shows-workers-are-mostly-ignoring-return-to-office-orders/91202144

Why would Feds be any different?

Footnote: this link was posted multiple times but it kept getting deleted. Someone really doesn’t want the truth to get out.

Have you seen the administration we are working for? They are monitoring badge swipes and VPN connections and giving very little leeway for any situation telework. Plus they are all too happy to find a reason to fire someone for cause.

From what I’ve heard from my spouse/friends in the private sector, there seems to be much less motivation to enforce, managers willing to turn a blind eye if you’re doing a good job, or ability to come in for a few hours to show your face and then go work the rest of your day at home or later that night.

Not to mention overall, because feds are paid with tax dollars, we are hyper monitored and tracked. It’s hard to fully grasp the level of oversight unless you’ve worked in fed gov within the past decade as automated tracking systems get more robust and layers of review added. Which is why the whole DOGE thing was so ridiculous to begin with.

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Anonymous wrote:July 10, 2025 article: “New Data Shows Workers Are Mostly Ign0ring RTO Orders”

Link or at least name the paper.

This article has nothing to do with feds..

https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/new-data-shows-workers-are-mostly-ignoring-return-to-office-orders/91202144

Why would Feds be any different?

Footnote: this link was posted multiple times but it kept getting deleted. Someone really doesn’t want the truth to get out.

Because it's timesheet fraud and they fire you, genius.

How is it timesheet fraud if location isn’t reflected on the timesheet?

For most Fed time sheet programs, it is. As part of my time I record if it was in office or telework, and if telework, what kind - recurring or situational.

How is it fraud if you put telework on timesheet? You can’t fire someone just for teleworking (especially if your CBA says you can).

But of course, all you sheep blindly do whatever you’re told. That’s why you’re in government; private sector employees have personal agency and take calculated risks. Sad.

If you coded it correctly you could be fired for insubordination. Almost everyone has received a direct order from their agency to RTO.

Yes. Our department sent out a "you're 5 days a week now RTO or we fire you starting tomorrow" e-mail. To everyone. Absolutely they will fire you.

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Anonymous wrote:July 10, 2025 article: “New Data Shows Workers Are Mostly Ign0ring RTO Orders”

Link or at least name the paper.

This article has nothing to do with feds..

https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/new-data-shows-workers-are-mostly-ignoring-return-to-office-orders/91202144

Why would Feds be any different?

Footnote: this link was posted multiple times but it kept getting deleted. Someone really doesn’t want the truth to get out.

Because it's timesheet fraud and they fire you, genius.

How is it timesheet fraud if location isn’t reflected on the timesheet?

For most Fed time sheet programs, it is. As part of my time I record if it was in office or telework, and if telework, what kind - recurring or situational.

How is it fraud if you put telework on timesheet? You can’t fire someone just for teleworking (especially if your CBA says you can).

But of course, all you sheep blindly do whatever you’re told. That’s why you’re in government; private sector employees have personal agency and take calculated risks. Sad.

If you coded it correctly you could be fired for insubordination. Almost everyone has received a direct order from their agency to RTO.