Rochester NY. If walkable if goal I'd look around here...https://redf.in/x5kKhE

can get more space in the suburbs if walkable doesn't matter. ( prices have dramatically increased recently but if looking I'd look to be able to walk to 12 corners in brighton or the canal in Pittsford or fairport).

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Anonymous wrote:Not OP but are there any places in Virginia that would meet these requirements?

Roanoke or Lynchburg

Lynchburg does not have good enough healthcare for a retiring couple. I don't know about Roanoke.

Maybe Milwaukee Wisconsin? It’s got a wonderful art museum and the lake. I dress of a Midwest lake house where I can swim and cross country ski.

Truly amazing how many people are leaping to third-world countries as if 80k isn’t higher than the median household income in this country. The DCUM bubble is truly insane.

Bangalore or Fort Cochin (or Kochi), India. Terrific healthcare, great standard of living.

Anonymous wrote:Open to US and international locations.

Puerto Rico. Get property while it's still affordable.

Anonymous wrote:80k?! Is this a joke? That is not enough money to live comfortably anywhere that is not straight up third world. Like you will be living like a local with no ac and a squat toilet in Eastern Europe/Asia.

I live in Baltimore County on less than that. I have a 2 bedroom condo in a quiet neighborhood, good schools, etc.

Youngstown,OH

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Anonymous wrote:54 yo retiree here in Fairfax living extremely comfortably on 72K. SFH, big yard, huge garden, community pool, kids done with college, 3 or 4 two week trips every year...

Troll harder.

Where do you live in Fairfax? Is your house paid off, I assume? And is the $72K net? I'm interested in the details, please.

It's within a mile of Woodson and yes it is paid. The 72 is gross but like I said we have no real expenses other than property tax. We will take SS at 62 which will give us another ~$ 5000 a month. We have about $650,000 in investments that we don't touch. And bout 900K in equity in the house

I don't understand how this confounds people. What the hell are you blowing your money on?

Anonymous wrote:Not OP but are there any places in Virginia that would meet these requirements?

Roanoke or Lynchburg

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Anonymous wrote:80k?! Is this a joke? That is not enough money to live comfortably anywhere that is not straight up third world. Like you will be living like a local with no ac and a squat toilet in Eastern Europe/Asia.

OP here. This doesn't sound right. They can spend the full 80k on living expenses. I was thinking if we could find somewhere where you could get a rental for around 2k/mo would work, would adjust higher or lower depending on taxes, whether they'd need a car, etc.

I was expecting suggestions for smaller cities in the midwest, south, and rust belt, maybe midsize cities in Europe? They'd be open to Mexico for sure (one of them speaks Spanish very well) though I'm mildly worried about the heat.

I’m the poster who suggested Mexico.

I lived in Mexico City for a year, and it’s not hot at all because of the altitude. The weather was absolutely lovely - much nicer than DC. Mexico City is a cosmopolitan city with an excellent public transportation system, plenty of cultural events, and incredibly delicious food. I’d move there again in a heartbeat if I wasn’t tied to my job here.

Mexicans don’t want American expats anymore driving up their prices. They are protesting now in Mexico City. Unless you speak the language and look like you will blend it, I honestly would not move anywhere where people are having anti-tourist and anti-expat protests. I am not saying it’s unsafe necessarily or you will be hurt, but it’s because the environment might be unpleasant and you will feel unwelcome. No need to go overseas at all having 80K a year for a childless couple with subsidized healthcare. You can live anywhere in the USA pretty much outside of the most expensive neighborhoods or HCOL cities.

Mexicans have been treating our border laws like suggestions for decades. They can kiss my ass.

And you are the reason Americans are no longer welcome in Mexico. Your combination of arrogance and ignorance. Embarrassing.

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Anonymous wrote:You can get a nice home in the Lehigh Valley in West Allentown or historic Bethlehem for that budget.

Lancaster would be an option as well. I’d prefer both of these places to Pittsburgh because they’re close to big cities like New York and Philadelphia and Pittsburgh is isolated.

An example of what you can get in West Allentown. Obviously you can go lower than $400,000 and pick up something nice, but smaller and not as updated.

https://www.redfin.com/PA/Allentown/2729-W-Allen-St-18104/home/196135126

They are an hour to an 1 1/2 hours to those cities. Pittsburgh is a million times better then slightly depressed towns like Allentown, Bethlehem (the best of the three) or Lancaster.

I’d rather be 1 1/2 hours from the best city in the world, NYC, than be 4 hours from any major city, like you are in Pittsburgh.

If you move to Pittsburgh you need to really like Pittsburgh, because it’s not close to anything except Ohio.

Lancaster, Allentown, and Bethlehem are all mid tier cities with plenty of amenities that are close to world class cities. And there are nice places in all three of these cities, just like there are depressing neighborhoods and nice neighborhoods in Pittsburgh. The house in Allentown posted above is in a very nice Pre WW2 neighborhood with big parks and a university within walking distance.

I know these three cities extremely well. They are slightly depressed and boring places to live. I don't know what "plenty of amenities" even means. Do they have professional sports teams? I guess if you include a AAA Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs or the minor league hockey team...is that experience anything similar to a Steelers, Penguins or Pirates game (yeah, the Pirates suck...but they get way more fans than the Nationals)? Of course not. Is it "easy" to get to an Eagles or Phillies or NY sports team game...heck no. Almost nobody does it.

Is there theatre...yeah, but it's mostly local and average...nothing compared to what you would see in Pittsburgh. Again, you can haul to NYC or Philly, but it's not easy.

Hey, the Allentown Fair is always fun and I love the farmers' market. Downtown Bethlehem is fun at Christmas...MusicFest is fun. Lancaster I don't really care much at all for.

Being walking distance to Muhlenberg College really isn't much of a draw. What are you even doing when you get there? It's a small school that does have some decent theatre productions, but nobody gives a shit about their D3 sports...not even their own students. Again, with Pittsburgh you can follow the Panthers with the added bonus of watching the football team play at the Steelers stadium.

As others have pointed out...go live much closer to Philly (or even in Philly which is actually quite affordable) or NYC so you can take SEPTA or NJ Transit/NYC Metro, if you want easy access to those cities.

These are C cities...not even B cities...which is fine if you want basic life things

Not OP but are there any places in Virginia that would meet these requirements?

Anonymous wrote:54 yo retiree here in Fairfax living extremely comfortably on 72K. SFH, big yard, huge garden, community pool, kids done with college, 3 or 4 two week trips every year...

Troll harder.

Where do you live in Fairfax? Is your house paid off, I assume? And is the $72K net? I'm interested in the details, please.

Columbus, Ohio