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Anonymous wrote:With the new principal, QO’s football history might decline anyway if they center the focus on academics.

They should start by capping the number of players. When you have 100 kids on a football team you know to many there because they pay fees and not because they have any chance to play

Lol, you never played football for a high school powerhouse, did you? I cannot express how huge high school football is in small town Ohio. The season my local high school won the state championship, against all odds, and the following year, we had over 100 boys on the team (no cuts; if you stuck with it through two-a-days in the August heat and conditioning and practices, you were on the team). None were recruited by our coaches, all were zoned for our school. This was a school with only about 900 students enrolled!

The football program turned quite a profit. We didn’t need the measly athletic fees, which didn’t cover all the expenses anyway. To participate in playoff games on artificial turf, we had bought all 100+ players special cleats, whether they were going to see any playing time or not. It meant something to those young men to be part of the program. They weren’t kept on for the fees they paid.

Cool story. At qo players sell fundraising coupons and bring in money. One year kids were told they dont get jerseys if they dont sell the coupons they got. Your coach knew you wasn't going play after watching you for two days. They wasted your time. You think coaches that recruit players in to take away opportunities from kids is keeping kids on out of the goodness in there heart?

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Anonymous wrote:With the new principal, QO’s football history might decline anyway if they center the focus on academics.

They should start by capping the number of players. When you have 100 kids on a football team you know to many there because they pay fees and not because they have any chance to play

Lol, you never played football for a high school powerhouse, did you? I cannot express how huge high school football is in small town Ohio. The season my local high school won the state championship, against all odds, and the following year, we had over 100 boys on the team (no cuts; if you stuck with it through two-a-days in the August heat and conditioning and practices, you were on the team). None were recruited by our coaches, all were zoned for our school. This was a school with only about 900 students enrolled!

The football program turned quite a profit. We didn’t need the measly athletic fees, which didn’t cover all the expenses anyway. To participate in playoff games on artificial turf, we had bought all 100+ players special cleats, whether they were going to see any playing time or not. It meant something to those young men to be part of the program. They weren’t kept on for the fees they paid.

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Anonymous wrote:With the new principal, QO’s football history might decline anyway if they center the focus on academics.

They should start by capping the number of players. When you have 100 kids on a football team you know to many there because they pay fees and not because they have any chance to play

Anonymous wrote:With the new principal, QO’s football history might decline anyway if they center the focus on academics.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm zoned for QO and I wish the school would emphasize academics more than the football team.

By doing what? What would that look like?

Having more academic clubs
Celebrating academic success
Having the front entrance not full of sports trophies and a huge sign about winning

QO currently has Book Club, Computer Club, Debate Club, Educators Rising Club, Minority Scholars Program, Model UN, Mu Alpha Theta (National Math Honor Society), Engineering and Robotics Club, Horticulture Club, Litmag Club, Quiz Bowl Team, Rho Kappa Social Studies Honor Society, Science National Honor Society, Science Olympiad, STEM Club, WiSTEM (to foster gender parity in STEM), Women in Engineering, STARS (Student Tutoring & Athletic Resources), in addition to several leadership clubs, Chess Club, other gaming clubs, numerous cultural clubs, DECA and multiple other business clubs, multiple hobby clubs, multiple mental health clubs, multiple clubs to support LGBTQ+ students, several religion based clubs, at least one health club, and a club for future healthcare workers. QO offers many sports besides football. QO also has numerous activities in the performing arts as well.

What academic clubs would you like to see added?

MCPS doesn’t rank class standings and students’ grades are protected by privacy policies. Academic success has never been celebrated in the same way as sports championships are celebrated. Academic teams might win trophies, but mostly, academic celebrations have been limited to making Honor Roll, maybe being invited to a banquet, recognizing valedictorians at graduation.

Sports, on the other hand, are spectator events open to the public. Games/matches are considered entertainment and may include performances by a band, cheerleaders, dance team, etc. Somebody is declared the winner. A team’s record is public information. Trophies are awarded to champions. Schools tend to have trophy display cases in prominent places. What else are you going to do with trophies? If you have a dominant team, you’re going to show that off. Football powerhouses draw the most attendees and raise the most money out of all school related events. Successful football programs often fund other sports. Obviously, QO is going to celebrate its signature football program, which draws the local community together, generates a profit, and wins championships.

Academic competitions don’t draw hundreds of spectators and generate substantial revenue. You can’t compare the two.

Just because you see a club listed on the website does not mean it is active.

So you are really out here justifying that it is a good practice to recruit out of area kids into QO which is already overcrowded? My kid goes to this school. From where I sit this is not a good thing and I would rather focus be elsewhere.

Nope, not justifying recruiting athletes who aren’t zoned for QO. Just pointing out that no one is discouraging academic excellence at QO, and it’s stupid to expect that a school won’t celebrate a football program that routinely makes it to the state championship game.

I'd be celebrating if the wins were not due to what seems to be illegal recruiting

Can anyone cite a specific example? I’ve asked more than once for links to the online recruiting that’s been mentioned, but no one has responded. I’d like to know if this is more than a rumor, but no one has provided any evidence.

I don't think this can be proven. All I know is that my kid is a student at QO and has had football players in his classes that do not live here

It can be proven. There was a player in the past few months who announced he was going to play at QO and thanked the hc for the conversation. He may have even said I'm in the transfer portal to qo or something equally ignorant. There are plenty of kids who have parents picking them up in the off season because there's no bus service from there to their home.

Most of the kids zoned for QO don’t get bus service.

Yeah and those kids dont play football much. Take a look at how many kids come in there using the same address over the years. Hmm.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm zoned for QO and I wish the school would emphasize academics more than the football team.

By doing what? What would that look like?

Having more academic clubs
Celebrating academic success
Having the front entrance not full of sports trophies and a huge sign about winning

QO currently has Book Club, Computer Club, Debate Club, Educators Rising Club, Minority Scholars Program, Model UN, Mu Alpha Theta (National Math Honor Society), Engineering and Robotics Club, Horticulture Club, Litmag Club, Quiz Bowl Team, Rho Kappa Social Studies Honor Society, Science National Honor Society, Science Olympiad, STEM Club, WiSTEM (to foster gender parity in STEM), Women in Engineering, STARS (Student Tutoring & Athletic Resources), in addition to several leadership clubs, Chess Club, other gaming clubs, numerous cultural clubs, DECA and multiple other business clubs, multiple hobby clubs, multiple mental health clubs, multiple clubs to support LGBTQ+ students, several religion based clubs, at least one health club, and a club for future healthcare workers. QO offers many sports besides football. QO also has numerous activities in the performing arts as well.

What academic clubs would you like to see added?

MCPS doesn’t rank class standings and students’ grades are protected by privacy policies. Academic success has never been celebrated in the same way as sports championships are celebrated. Academic teams might win trophies, but mostly, academic celebrations have been limited to making Honor Roll, maybe being invited to a banquet, recognizing valedictorians at graduation.

Sports, on the other hand, are spectator events open to the public. Games/matches are considered entertainment and may include performances by a band, cheerleaders, dance team, etc. Somebody is declared the winner. A team’s record is public information. Trophies are awarded to champions. Schools tend to have trophy display cases in prominent places. What else are you going to do with trophies? If you have a dominant team, you’re going to show that off. Football powerhouses draw the most attendees and raise the most money out of all school related events. Successful football programs often fund other sports. Obviously, QO is going to celebrate its signature football program, which draws the local community together, generates a profit, and wins championships.

Academic competitions don’t draw hundreds of spectators and generate substantial revenue. You can’t compare the two.

Just because you see a club listed on the website does not mean it is active.

So you are really out here justifying that it is a good practice to recruit out of area kids into QO which is already overcrowded? My kid goes to this school. From where I sit this is not a good thing and I would rather focus be elsewhere.

Nope, not justifying recruiting athletes who aren’t zoned for QO. Just pointing out that no one is discouraging academic excellence at QO, and it’s stupid to expect that a school won’t celebrate a football program that routinely makes it to the state championship game.

I'd be celebrating if the wins were not due to what seems to be illegal recruiting

Can anyone cite a specific example? I’ve asked more than once for links to the online recruiting that’s been mentioned, but no one has responded. I’d like to know if this is more than a rumor, but no one has provided any evidence.

I don't think this can be proven. All I know is that my kid is a student at QO and has had football players in his classes that do not live here

It can be proven. There was a player in the past few months who announced he was going to play at QO and thanked the hc for the conversation. He may have even said I'm in the transfer portal to qo or something equally ignorant. There are plenty of kids who have parents picking them up in the off season because there's no bus service from there to their home.

Most of the kids zoned for QO don’t get bus service.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm zoned for QO and I wish the school would emphasize academics more than the football team.

By doing what? What would that look like?

Having more academic clubs
Celebrating academic success
Having the front entrance not full of sports trophies and a huge sign about winning

QO currently has Book Club, Computer Club, Debate Club, Educators Rising Club, Minority Scholars Program, Model UN, Mu Alpha Theta (National Math Honor Society), Engineering and Robotics Club, Horticulture Club, Litmag Club, Quiz Bowl Team, Rho Kappa Social Studies Honor Society, Science National Honor Society, Science Olympiad, STEM Club, WiSTEM (to foster gender parity in STEM), Women in Engineering, STARS (Student Tutoring & Athletic Resources), in addition to several leadership clubs, Chess Club, other gaming clubs, numerous cultural clubs, DECA and multiple other business clubs, multiple hobby clubs, multiple mental health clubs, multiple clubs to support LGBTQ+ students, several religion based clubs, at least one health club, and a club for future healthcare workers. QO offers many sports besides football. QO also has numerous activities in the performing arts as well.

What academic clubs would you like to see added?

MCPS doesn’t rank class standings and students’ grades are protected by privacy policies. Academic success has never been celebrated in the same way as sports championships are celebrated. Academic teams might win trophies, but mostly, academic celebrations have been limited to making Honor Roll, maybe being invited to a banquet, recognizing valedictorians at graduation.

Sports, on the other hand, are spectator events open to the public. Games/matches are considered entertainment and may include performances by a band, cheerleaders, dance team, etc. Somebody is declared the winner. A team’s record is public information. Trophies are awarded to champions. Schools tend to have trophy display cases in prominent places. What else are you going to do with trophies? If you have a dominant team, you’re going to show that off. Football powerhouses draw the most attendees and raise the most money out of all school related events. Successful football programs often fund other sports. Obviously, QO is going to celebrate its signature football program, which draws the local community together, generates a profit, and wins championships.

Academic competitions don’t draw hundreds of spectators and generate substantial revenue. You can’t compare the two.

Just because you see a club listed on the website does not mean it is active.

So you are really out here justifying that it is a good practice to recruit out of area kids into QO which is already overcrowded? My kid goes to this school. From where I sit this is not a good thing and I would rather focus be elsewhere.

Nope, not justifying recruiting athletes who aren’t zoned for QO. Just pointing out that no one is discouraging academic excellence at QO, and it’s stupid to expect that a school won’t celebrate a football program that routinely makes it to the state championship game.

I'd be celebrating if the wins were not due to what seems to be illegal recruiting

Can anyone cite a specific example? I’ve asked more than once for links to the online recruiting that’s been mentioned, but no one has responded. I’d like to know if this is more than a rumor, but no one has provided any evidence.

I don't think this can be proven. All I know is that my kid is a student at QO and has had football players in his classes that do not live here

But principals can grant COSAs. We’re zoned for QO and back when my kids attended Rachael Carson, which was over enrolled to 150% of capacity, we knew a couple families who had still been granted COSAs to go there — and it wasn’t because QO recruits elementary school girls to play football.

So these elite football players wanted to come to QO for the academics?

The most likely answer is that QO’s record means that they don’t have to actively recruit; kids want to play football for them, and the principal grants COSAs.

But besides that, there can be kids who started at QO, but their families moved and the kids want to stay at the same school with their friends, and the principal grants COSAs.

There can be kids whose parents are divorced and only one parent is zoned for QO.

There can be kids who are unhoused, bouncing around from one relative’s couch to another’s, but they still have the right to be continuously enrolled in the same school, even if they aren’t zoned for any one particular school.

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Anonymous wrote:It might be a coincidence that their new QB just transferred in from Westlake in Waldorf, MD

And his younger brother still playing at a school in Baltimore County. Nothing to see here.

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Anonymous wrote:We're just better than every other public school team here

Fixed it for you.

Seriously though, how many private schools in the DMV can beat them? Probably Dematha and maybe SJC, Gonzaga from time to time.

SJC , Dematha, Good Counsel, Gonzaga, would kill them

Bullis, Georgetown Prep, are about equal

Nah, the only team on this list that would probably kill them is DeMatha.

What?

If I recall they played GC a few years ago and GC beat the brakes off of them.

SJC would too. GZ would beat them. McNamara might beat them.

But the top 4 in the WCAC- we are talking about a running clock.

PREACH!

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Anonymous wrote:We're just better than every other public school team here

Fixed it for you.

Seriously though, how many private schools in the DMV can beat them? Probably Dematha and maybe SJC, Gonzaga from time to time.

SJC , Dematha, Good Counsel, Gonzaga, would kill them

Bullis, Georgetown Prep, are about equal

Nah, the only team on this list that would probably kill them is DeMatha.

What?

If I recall they played GC a few years ago and GC beat the brakes off of them.

SJC would too. GZ would beat them. McNamara might beat them.

But the top 4 in the WCAC- we are talking about a running clock.

When? That would only happen in an off-year for QO

Are you daft?

Are you? You didn't answer the question.

Have you seen GC play ? They recruit from all over.

There is no way QO could compete and they don’t because their players would get injured. That is why QO doesn’t play WCAC teams. They would not just lose, it would dangerous.