Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 11:02     Subject: Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud allows a lot of poor students in Fairfax to go to lower farm schools. That’s a big reason why they won’t ever touch this.

It’d hurt equity more than help it.


So you are saying that FCPS allows residency fraud to encourage wealthy families to leave their neighborhood schoolsin some modern equity version of 1970s white flight?
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 10:42     Subject: Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud allows a lot of poor students in Fairfax to go to lower farm schools. That’s a big reason why they won’t ever touch this.

It’d hurt equity more than help it.


Unlikely. The AAP or LI escape hatch is available to any student in FCPS if they want out of a high FARMS classroom. In high school it's the AP/IB or language transfer loophole. In any case, people don't care that much about kids who live in Fairfax fudging their addresses to go to a different school in the county. People care deeply about kids who don't live in Fairfax attending FCPS unless their parents are paying the out of district tuition.

I can assure you that people getting kicked out of their current boundary schools (i.e. Chantilly) deeply care about all the kids from other parts of Fairfax whose parents are lying about their address to go to Chantilly.


Who is getting kicked out of Chantilly? I am PP and do think there should be an annual residency check for all FCPS students, especially HS. If in boundary kids are getting kicked out that's news to me.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 10:28     Subject: Re:Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

Report.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 10:28     Subject: Re:Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The issue is that there isn’t enough staff to do the investigations. There used to be attendance officers assigned to specific regions in the county. As an administrator, I would work with ours and uncovered many residency frauds. They would look up tax records, follow cars home, do stake-outs and meet with me to confront families. Then a few years ago, those went away. Now there is one residency investigator. The job could pay for itself in tax dollars saved.

The next time there is a community meeting, ask Reid why there is only one residency investigator. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are lost because we’re educating students who live in Maryland, Alexandria City and Prince William county.


Icky. Regardless of how you feel about residency fraud, the thought of some low-paid rent-a-cop following FCPS children home and staking them out (which sounds like the textbook definition of stalking), doesn’t sit well with me. Not something I plan to ask Reid to do.


You are entitled to your opinion but I believe you are misguided.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 10:26     Subject: Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud allows a lot of poor students in Fairfax to go to lower farm schools. That’s a big reason why they won’t ever touch this.

It’d hurt equity more than help it.


Unlikely. The AAP or LI escape hatch is available to any student in FCPS if they want out of a high FARMS classroom. In high school it's the AP/IB or language transfer loophole. In any case, people don't care that much about kids who live in Fairfax fudging their addresses to go to a different school in the county. People care deeply about kids who don't live in Fairfax attending FCPS unless their parents are paying the out of district tuition.

I can assure you that people getting kicked out of their current boundary schools (i.e. Chantilly) deeply care about all the kids from other parts of Fairfax whose parents are lying about their address to go to Chantilly.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 10:10     Subject: Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud allows a lot of poor students in Fairfax to go to lower farm schools. That’s a big reason why they won’t ever touch this.

It’d hurt equity more than help it.


Unlikely. The AAP or LI escape hatch is available to any student in FCPS if they want out of a high FARMS classroom. In high school it's the AP/IB or language transfer loophole. In any case, people don't care that much about kids who live in Fairfax fudging their addresses to go to a different school in the county. People care deeply about kids who don't live in Fairfax attending FCPS unless their parents are paying the out of district tuition.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 09:34     Subject: Re:Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The issue is that there isn’t enough staff to do the investigations. There used to be attendance officers assigned to specific regions in the county. As an administrator, I would work with ours and uncovered many residency frauds. They would look up tax records, follow cars home, do stake-outs and meet with me to confront families. Then a few years ago, those went away. Now there is one residency investigator. The job could pay for itself in tax dollars saved.

The next time there is a community meeting, ask Reid why there is only one residency investigator. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are lost because we’re educating students who live in Maryland, Alexandria City and Prince William county.


Icky. Regardless of how you feel about residency fraud, the thought of some low-paid rent-a-cop following FCPS children home and staking them out (which sounds like the textbook definition of stalking), doesn’t sit well with me. Not something I plan to ask Reid to do.


They’re following the parents! These kids are getting in cars driven by their parents and going home to other jurisdictions. No one is hiding in bushes following a kid down the sidewalk.

The investigators will find documentation of a home sale in Maryland. He then parks outside the home in the morning, watches the kids get in the car and then either follows the car or asks the school to see what kind of car the kids get out of when they arrive.

And they’re not stalking. Per Mr. Google, stalking is a pervasive and unwelcome pursuit that infringes on an individual's privacy and sense of safety. On the other hand, investigating serves a purpose, often legal or professional, to gather information without crossing ethical lines.


We found the stalker-sympathizer on the forum.

She (or probably he) says: stalking is just an individual investigating another individual - like a personalized wellness check. Why is that a problem?
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 09:31     Subject: Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud allows a lot of poor students in Fairfax to go to lower farm schools. That’s a big reason why they won’t ever touch this.

It’d hurt equity more than help it.


I don't see this as the issue. I think it more likely that it allows wealthier kids who live in high FARMS schools to get out. Just like the IB/AP issue.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 09:20     Subject: Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

Residency fraud allows a lot of poor students in Fairfax to go to lower farm schools. That’s a big reason why they won’t ever touch this.

It’d hurt equity more than help it.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 09:03     Subject: Re:Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

Anonymous wrote:The issue is that there isn’t enough staff to do the investigations. There used to be attendance officers assigned to specific regions in the county. As an administrator, I would work with ours and uncovered many residency frauds. They would look up tax records, follow cars home, do stake-outs and meet with me to confront families. Then a few years ago, those went away. Now there is one residency investigator. The job could pay for itself in tax dollars saved.

The next time there is a community meeting, ask Reid why there is only one residency investigator. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are lost because we’re educating students who live in Maryland, Alexandria City and Prince William county.


+1. It has been asked at STAC multiple times. Reid is stonewalling on the issue. I don't know why. I suspect it's also a big contributing factor to the increase in chronic absenteeism and tardiness.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 08:49     Subject: Re:Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The issue is that there isn’t enough staff to do the investigations. There used to be attendance officers assigned to specific regions in the county. As an administrator, I would work with ours and uncovered many residency frauds. They would look up tax records, follow cars home, do stake-outs and meet with me to confront families. Then a few years ago, those went away. Now there is one residency investigator. The job could pay for itself in tax dollars saved.

The next time there is a community meeting, ask Reid why there is only one residency investigator. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are lost because we’re educating students who live in Maryland, Alexandria City and Prince William county.


Icky. Regardless of how you feel about residency fraud, the thought of some low-paid rent-a-cop following FCPS children home and staking them out (which sounds like the textbook definition of stalking), doesn’t sit well with me. Not something I plan to ask Reid to do.


It does not require a detective following people. Most of it can be done through paper documents.

It takes a phone call to the person who is violating it. A question as to why it has been reported and a reminder of what would occur. A casual question to the kid.



Again, this can be resolved in other ways. Example: new tenant reports getting school mail from prior tenant. Phone call is made to the prior tenant with a question and a request for documentation. Most people when caught will do something else. It doesn't require a court case--just getting caught with hand in the cookie jar will result in action.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 08:44     Subject: Re:Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The issue is that there isn’t enough staff to do the investigations. There used to be attendance officers assigned to specific regions in the county. As an administrator, I would work with ours and uncovered many residency frauds. They would look up tax records, follow cars home, do stake-outs and meet with me to confront families. Then a few years ago, those went away. Now there is one residency investigator. The job could pay for itself in tax dollars saved.

The next time there is a community meeting, ask Reid why there is only one residency investigator. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are lost because we’re educating students who live in Maryland, Alexandria City and Prince William county.


Icky. Regardless of how you feel about residency fraud, the thought of some low-paid rent-a-cop following FCPS children home and staking them out (which sounds like the textbook definition of stalking), doesn’t sit well with me. Not something I plan to ask Reid to do.


They’re following the parents! These kids are getting in cars driven by their parents and going home to other jurisdictions. No one is hiding in bushes following a kid down the sidewalk.

The investigators will find documentation of a home sale in Maryland. He then parks outside the home in the morning, watches the kids get in the car and then either follows the car or asks the school to see what kind of car the kids get out of when they arrive.

And they’re not stalking. Per Mr. Google, stalking is a pervasive and unwelcome pursuit that infringes on an individual's privacy and sense of safety. On the other hand, investigating serves a purpose, often legal or professional, to gather information without crossing ethical lines.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 08:07     Subject: Re:Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The issue is that there isn’t enough staff to do the investigations. There used to be attendance officers assigned to specific regions in the county. As an administrator, I would work with ours and uncovered many residency frauds. They would look up tax records, follow cars home, do stake-outs and meet with me to confront families. Then a few years ago, those went away. Now there is one residency investigator. The job could pay for itself in tax dollars saved.

The next time there is a community meeting, ask Reid why there is only one residency investigator. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are lost because we’re educating students who live in Maryland, Alexandria City and Prince William county.


Icky. Regardless of how you feel about residency fraud, the thought of some low-paid rent-a-cop following FCPS children home and staking them out (which sounds like the textbook definition of stalking), doesn’t sit well with me. Not something I plan to ask Reid to do.


It does not require a detective following people. Most of it can be done through paper documents.

It takes a phone call to the person who is violating it. A question as to why it has been reported and a reminder of what would occur. A casual question to the kid.

Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 07:53     Subject: Re:Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

Anonymous wrote:The issue is that there isn’t enough staff to do the investigations. There used to be attendance officers assigned to specific regions in the county. As an administrator, I would work with ours and uncovered many residency frauds. They would look up tax records, follow cars home, do stake-outs and meet with me to confront families. Then a few years ago, those went away. Now there is one residency investigator. The job could pay for itself in tax dollars saved.

The next time there is a community meeting, ask Reid why there is only one residency investigator. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are lost because we’re educating students who live in Maryland, Alexandria City and Prince William county.


Icky. Regardless of how you feel about residency fraud, the thought of some low-paid rent-a-cop following FCPS children home and staking them out (which sounds like the textbook definition of stalking), doesn’t sit well with me. Not something I plan to ask Reid to do.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2025 07:49     Subject: Re:Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

The issue is that there isn’t enough staff to do the investigations. There used to be attendance officers assigned to specific regions in the county. As an administrator, I would work with ours and uncovered many residency frauds. They would look up tax records, follow cars home, do stake-outs and meet with me to confront families. Then a few years ago, those went away. Now there is one residency investigator. The job could pay for itself in tax dollars saved.

The next time there is a community meeting, ask Reid why there is only one residency investigator. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are lost because we’re educating students who live in Maryland, Alexandria City and Prince William county.