Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 18:41     Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?

Feds are flooding the job market. Good luck to anyone looking for a new job!
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 18:30     Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?

Those happiest about this are our adversaries.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 18:16     Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?

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Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.


BARF is this elon?


Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.


What can’t you believe?

It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!


I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.


Provide a source for that 90%


Last I checked polling, people vote based on policy issues, not federal employment levels. Just like you don't care if people lose their jobs at the local Amazon warehouse, you only care if the box gets to your door.


Show me the poll where 90% of
People voted for this?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 18:02     Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to what non feds have dealt with for decades.

Ex-FSO here. I get what you're saying. And overseas feds can be whiny when they come back for a tour in "expensive" DC. But why does it have to be a race to the bottom? Because most non feds don't work so many evenings and weekends. They don't have to be worldwide available for their jobs. Their spouses aren't putting careers on hold. Their kids aren't saying goodbye to their friends every few years. They aren't contending with stressors and conditions that lead to higher rates of divorce and in some cases, death. And they didn't spend years cultivating arcane language and technical skills that are necessary and beneficial for the American people no matter the political administration, but not too useful in other jobs.

If bright young people are willing to forego a normal, non fed career path do all of this instead, why not give them a little more job security than the average American worker?


Why?
“not too useful in other jobs” is right
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 17:15     Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.


BARF is this elon?


Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.


What can’t you believe?

It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!


I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.


Provide a source for that 90%


Last I checked polling, people vote based on policy issues, not federal employment levels. Just like you don't care if people lose their jobs at the local Amazon warehouse, you only care if the box gets to your door.


+1

People in DC feel this more acutely. Most Americans don’t have any clue what State Department does except approve passports.


+1 if they even know what the state department is
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 16:36     Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?

Anonymous wrote:Welcome to what non feds have dealt with for decades.

Ex-FSO here. I get what you're saying. And overseas feds can be whiny when they come back for a tour in "expensive" DC. But why does it have to be a race to the bottom? Because most non feds don't work so many evenings and weekends. They don't have to be worldwide available for their jobs. Their spouses aren't putting careers on hold. Their kids aren't saying goodbye to their friends every few years. They aren't contending with stressors and conditions that lead to higher rates of divorce and in some cases, death. And they didn't spend years cultivating arcane language and technical skills that are necessary and beneficial for the American people no matter the political administration, but not too useful in other jobs.

If bright young people are willing to forego a normal, non fed career path do all of this instead, why not give them a little more job security than the average American worker?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 15:38     Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.


BARF is this elon?


Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.


What can’t you believe?

It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!


I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.


Provide a source for that 90%


Last I checked polling, people vote based on policy issues, not federal employment levels. Just like you don't care if people lose their jobs at the local Amazon warehouse, you only care if the box gets to your door.


+1

People in DC feel this more acutely. Most Americans don’t have any clue what State Department does except approve passports.


Agree. We live outside the DC area and no one around us is aware this is happening. It’s barely mentioned in the news cycle. DH is a fed and people are surprised to learn that he still might lose his job. With private sector layoffs going on too, it’s not going to get special attention.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 15:26     Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.


BARF is this elon?


Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.


What can’t you believe?

It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!


I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.



Welcome to what non feds have dealt with for decades.

Good luck finding jobs. Companies are hiring h1b’s or offshoring.


DP. They won’t have trouble finding jobs, companies are going to snap these people right up. Foreign owned companies in many cases. The government is not the private sector, your comparison is vapid and shows how ignorant you are about what the government does to make sure the private sector can do what it does. This is really a tragedy.


How are you so sure of this?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 15:08     Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.


So let’s talk about how public employee unions have imposed conditions that don’t allow firings to be made on job performance, so indiscriminate RIFs are the only way they can be accomplished. Public sector unions once again protect the mediocre at the expense of the competent.


R's hold the Majority in Congress, it shouldn't be that hard to rewrite statute. They were in such a hurry to fire *anyone*, but they're basically shooting themselves in the foot here by not doing this the right way. I really think everyone would love to see poor performers let go rather than some haphazard, poorly executed process.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 14:53     Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.


BARF is this elon?


Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.


DP. Just like with all of these RIFs, it doesn’t matter to them about the quality of employees.


You think the management at State wouldn’t prefer to discharge the lowest performing employees first? Ask the union why they can’t do that.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 14:52     Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?

Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.


So let’s talk about how public employee unions have imposed conditions that don’t allow firings to be made on job performance, so indiscriminate RIFs are the only way they can be accomplished. Public sector unions once again protect the mediocre at the expense of the competent.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 14:43     Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.


BARF is this elon?


Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.


What can’t you believe?

It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!


I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.



Welcome to what non feds have dealt with for decades.

Good luck finding jobs. Companies are hiring h1b’s or offshoring.


Feds traded lower comp for job security. Now that security is gone, hiring will be much harder and attract candidates with less skills. Maybe that’s fine, they are cutting lots of govt functions, but everyone is looking for an exit and no Gen z will ever make a career in the Feds
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 14:38     Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.


BARF is this elon?


Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.


What can’t you believe?

It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!


I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.


Provide a source for that 90%


Last I checked polling, people vote based on policy issues, not federal employment levels. Just like you don't care if people lose their jobs at the local Amazon warehouse, you only care if the box gets to your door.


See that’s here you wrong. Most democrats do get incensed about cruel layoffs, ie company is profitable but lets goose the numbers by cutting staff. Or mismanagement that led to company failure. Executives always come out fine but workers suffer.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 13:58     Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.


BARF is this elon?


Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.


What can’t you believe?

It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!


I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.



Welcome to what non feds have dealt with for decades.

Good luck finding jobs. Companies are hiring h1b’s or offshoring.


DP. They won’t have trouble finding jobs, companies are going to snap these people right up. Foreign owned companies in many cases. The government is not the private sector, your comparison is vapid and shows how ignorant you are about what the government does to make sure the private sector can do what it does. This is really a tragedy.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 12:09     Subject: State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know some pretty high level people got notices. They were great employees... it's nothing at all against their quality of work. Literally just happened to be in the wrong assignment at the wrong time, that's it. I know they will be a huge gain for whoever picks them up in their next endeavor.


BARF is this elon?


Curious, why does that sound like something Elon would write to you? I would think he would be quite the opposite. Anyway, I was trying to convey empathy. One person in particular who was RIF'd was truly amazing at what they did, which was managerial in a non-controversial Bureau. I really can't believe it.


What can’t you believe?

It’s time to wake up Trump and his sycophants are destroying the economy, science, US constitution!


I hate to break it to you but 90% of Americans don't give a crap about any of this. They've all been through layoffs and firings and don't have any sympathy for the work or the people.



Welcome to what non feds have dealt with for decades.

Good luck finding jobs. Companies are hiring h1b’s or offshoring.


You have a lot of people smiling and happy to lay people off? I was laid off in the private sector before becoming a fed. What's described here is not what people have dealt with for decades. In my experience, management doesn't enjoy laying people off. You're kind of a dick.