Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.
OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.
Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.
They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.
But then the Council also revised the code again to make it palatable for Congress, so I don’t see how it’s reasonable to say anyone in D.C. “voted for [crime]” unless you just want to blame people other than the criminals for it.
Our council leaps at every chance to not blame the criminals for their crimes. The most egregious example was when a man attacked toddlers and their daycare workers and their council member was more concerned with showing he was offering services to the violent attacker of women and children.
Fine, that doesn’t mean the cops should just stop doing their jobs and say “oh, you asked for this.” Unless the person they’re specifically talking to is on the Council.
Yes it does. At the point where the US Attorney charged police with a felony for doing their jobs to pursue a criminal, it is clear the entire environment in DC is anti police. We are lucky they did not all quit. I was on a jury where we watched body cam footage of a cop who was stabbed by a nut bag and almost bled to death. These people put their lives on the line every day. How many people who are here criticizing the police are going to apply to the police academy and go out and run the risk of getting killed by crazy crackheads?
Couldn't we just give the poor drug addicted a free home and medication to keep them off the streets? Also, we probably need to provide a free cleaning service for them. I think a small 1% tax could fund a small NGO to handle all this.
We can do that but that still does not answer for the incredible amount of danger facing cops. Why would anyone want this job when they could get killed and everyone craps on them? I can't blame them for quitting.
They aren't quitting, they are doing exactly what DC voters are asking them to do which is nothing other than taking your report so you can submit it to insurance.
I say good for them. They should not risk being prosecuted for pursuing suspects when the system does not back them up. Bowser hates the police but has a private security detail. These people in office in DC are huge hypocrites.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.
I believe OP. I had a similar experience with police in VA. Drug dealing open next to ballpark where ES to MS kids play ball. Cop said there isn’t much to do except to talk to the town council.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And at any rate, while police work is dangerous, it isn't among the 25 most dangerous jobs in America; roofers face far more danger every day, based on injury and fatality statistics.
Uninformed anti-cop DCUM posters keep pushing this nonsense.
1. More law enforcement officers died in the line of duty(157) than roofers(134) in 2023(last full year of data).
2. There were 83,016 law enforcement officers assaulted in 2023. I can’t find assault figures for roofers.
3. Roofers get hurt tripping and falling off a roof. Law enforcement gets attacked by people, maybe even roofers.
4 The average injuries per year for roofers hovers around 7,000.
5. I couldn’t find any reports of roofers being shot by homeowners.
6. In 2023 there were 501 officers assaulted and injured by firearms(a 10 year high).
None of those statistics mean that being a police officer is more dangerous than being a roofer. There are a lot more cops in America than roofers, so the fact that more police officers were (however terribly) killed on the job than roofers doesn't affect the odds of being killed or injured in either line of work. It's true that the way police officers are hurt or killed on the job is usually more violent than the way roofers are, but that also doesn't make it inherently more dangerous.
Anyway, police officers deserve all of our thanks for putting themselves in the line of however much danger they face. But they then shouldn't also shrug off crime and say citizens asked for it. As the officer in OP's post here apparently did.
But being a police officer is exponentially more dangerous than any job, besides other first responders and maybe airline crew. An attorney is usually not going to get a gunshot or knife wound sitting at their desk typing briefs. It's a very real risk for law enforcement officers.
Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let me remind everyone how traffic laws work in DC:
12 year old driving an ATV down the middle of Connecticut Avenue during rush hour: no penalty
Moped driver blowing stop sign at 40 mph: no penalty
Motorcyclist blowing stop sign at 40 mph: no penalty
Cyclist with infant placed in basket in front of bike: no penalty
Cyclist with two small children on back with no helmets: no penalty
Car driver going 50 mph in a 25 mph zone with no traffic cameras: no penalty
Car driver doesnt stop at stop sign for full three seconds at empty intersection with camera: $100, doubled after 30 days
That's a whole lot of words to tell us that you don't understand the meaning of "stop".
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The far left needs to stop demonizing the police. That's where all this comes from.
Pretty hard to respect them when their position is "let us kill black people with impunity, or else we won't do any work at all."
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.
OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.
Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.
They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.
Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?
The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.
You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities
Interesting article. Charles Allen is quoted extensively. Shame he never brought up all the surgeries he's performed or explained why he didn't file a police report the time he claims he was brutally assaulted.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And at any rate, while police work is dangerous, it isn't among the 25 most dangerous jobs in America; roofers face far more danger every day, based on injury and fatality statistics.
Uninformed anti-cop DCUM posters keep pushing this nonsense.
1. More law enforcement officers died in the line of duty(157) than roofers(134) in 2023(last full year of data).
2. There were 83,016 law enforcement officers assaulted in 2023. I can’t find assault figures for roofers.
3. Roofers get hurt tripping and falling off a roof. Law enforcement gets attacked by people, maybe even roofers.
4 The average injuries per year for roofers hovers around 7,000.
5. I couldn’t find any reports of roofers being shot by homeowners.
6. In 2023 there were 501 officers assaulted and injured by firearms(a 10 year high).
None of those statistics mean that being a police officer is more dangerous than being a roofer. There are a lot more cops in America than roofers, so the fact that more police officers were (however terribly) killed on the job than roofers doesn't affect the odds of being killed or injured in either line of work. It's true that the way police officers are hurt or killed on the job is usually more violent than the way roofers are, but that also doesn't make it inherently more dangerous.
Anyway, police officers deserve all of our thanks for putting themselves in the line of however much danger they face. But they then shouldn't also shrug off crime and say citizens asked for it. As the officer in OP's post here apparently did.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.
OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.
Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.
They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.
Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?
The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.
You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.
OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.
Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.
They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.
Serious question: do you actually not understand what was in the RCC bill or do you find that misrepresenting it helps you avoid the uncomfortable process of confronting your deeply held political beliefs?
The RCC contained a few provisions that realigned maximum sentences with sentences that were actually being handed down, but the main thrust of the legislation was to actually make it easier for prosecutors to win convictions.
You can read more about what was actually in the rewrite here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-crime/the-war-on-cities
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.
OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.
Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.
They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.
Anonymous wrote:But they then shouldn't also shrug off crime and say citizens asked for it. As the officer in OP's post here apparently did.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And at any rate, while police work is dangerous, it isn't among the 25 most dangerous jobs in America; roofers face far more danger every day, based on injury and fatality statistics.
Uninformed anti-cop DCUM posters keep pushing this nonsense.
1. More law enforcement officers died in the line of duty(157) than roofers(134) in 2023(last full year of data).
2. There were 83,016 law enforcement officers assaulted in 2023. I can’t find assault figures for roofers.
3. Roofers get hurt tripping and falling off a roof. Law enforcement gets attacked by people, maybe even roofers.
4 The average injuries per year for roofers hovers around 7,000.
5. I couldn’t find any reports of roofers being shot by homeowners.
6. In 2023 there were 501 officers assaulted and injured by firearms(a 10 year high).
Anonymous wrote:And at any rate, while police work is dangerous, it isn't among the 25 most dangerous jobs in America; roofers face far more danger every day, based on injury and fatality statistics.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's no way a cop said that. That would be wildly, wildly unprofessional.
OP here. He 100% said it. I have lived in DC over 25 years and have had many conversations with cops about crime. They are more frustrated than citizens on the revolving door of catch and release of criminals. Over and over.
Citizens didn't vote for the decisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office to release criminals.
They voted for the Council members who applauded those decisions and tried to rewrite DC's criminal code to make it even harder to punish violent criminals in a move that was so laughably tin-eared that even many national Democrats disagreed with it.
But then the Council also revised the code again to make it palatable for Congress, so I don’t see how it’s reasonable to say anyone in D.C. “voted for [crime]” unless you just want to blame people other than the criminals for it.
Our council leaps at every chance to not blame the criminals for their crimes. The most egregious example was when a man attacked toddlers and their daycare workers and their council member was more concerned with showing he was offering services to the violent attacker of women and children.
Fine, that doesn’t mean the cops should just stop doing their jobs and say “oh, you asked for this.” Unless the person they’re specifically talking to is on the Council.
Yes it does. At the point where the US Attorney charged police with a felony for doing their jobs to pursue a criminal, it is clear the entire environment in DC is anti police. We are lucky they did not all quit. I was on a jury where we watched body cam footage of a cop who was stabbed by a nut bag and almost bled to death. These people put their lives on the line every day. How many people who are here criticizing the police are going to apply to the police academy and go out and run the risk of getting killed by crazy crackheads?
Couldn't we just give the poor drug addicted a free home and medication to keep them off the streets? Also, we probably need to provide a free cleaning service for them. I think a small 1% tax could fund a small NGO to handle all this.
We can do that but that still does not answer for the incredible amount of danger facing cops. Why would anyone want this job when they could get killed and everyone craps on them? I can't blame them for quitting.
They aren't quitting, they are doing exactly what DC voters are asking them to do which is nothing other than taking your report so you can submit it to insurance.