Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 16:42     Subject: Department of Education going back to work

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Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html


Another Trump win.



Three Cheers for President Trump!!

Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!

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Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!

Three cheers!!


Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.


Not if you’re in a dirt poor state at the bottom of the rankings. Do Louisiana and Mississippi have the same school taxes as NJ, Maryland and Massachusetts? Good northeastern school districts will survive this. Places without a base of high warning property owners are screwed, unless the wealthy in their state want to pony up money to educate the poor.


Or maybe the churches will open their Christian wallets and educate the poor— the way they did 100 years ago (see many of our immigrant ancestors).


and use taxpayer funded vouchers to pay for it, or are you ok with that?


Well, there we go. That's really the purpose of it all, isn't it? There really isn't going to be much of a school choice if you're working class in a neighborhood with a poorly funded public school that's headed back to one-room school house days (and they'll be using little chalkboard slates to write because you need money from somewhere to buy nice supplies, unless the teachers use DonorsChoose). So, go to the poorly funded school, or go to the religious charter than spends more time on the Bible than biology. If a family has the means and desire to find better for their kids, they'll get the heck out of there.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 16:37     Subject: Department of Education going back to work

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html


Another Trump win.



Three Cheers for President Trump!!

Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!

Clap! Clap! Clap!


Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!

Three cheers!!


Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.


Not if you’re in a dirt poor state at the bottom of the rankings. Do Louisiana and Mississippi have the same school taxes as NJ, Maryland and Massachusetts? Good northeastern school districts will survive this. Places without a base of high warning property owners are screwed, unless the wealthy in their state want to pony up money to educate the poor.


Or maybe the churches will open their Christian wallets and educate the poor— the way they did 100 years ago (see many of our immigrant ancestors).


and use taxpayer funded vouchers to pay for it, or are you ok with that?
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 16:36     Subject: Department of Education going back to work

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html


Another Trump win.



Three Cheers for President Trump!!

Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!

Clap! Clap! Clap!


Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!

Three cheers!!


Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.


Not if you’re in a dirt poor state at the bottom of the rankings. Do Louisiana and Mississippi have the same school taxes as NJ, Maryland and Massachusetts? Good northeastern school districts will survive this. Places without a base of high warning property owners are screwed, unless the wealthy in their state want to pony up money to educate the poor.


LOL, that won't happen. This is just the re-establishment of segregation and tax payer funded Christian schools.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 16:36     Subject: Department of Education going back to work

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html


Another Trump win.



Three Cheers for President Trump!!

Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!

Clap! Clap! Clap!


Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!

Three cheers!!


Hate Trump, but we already have a slave class due to student loans. The Educstion department has failed higher education. It is probably more useful with primary and secondary education.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 16:36     Subject: Department of Education going back to work

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html


Another Trump win.



Three Cheers for President Trump!!

Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!

Clap! Clap! Clap!


Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!

Three cheers!!


Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.


Not if you’re in a dirt poor state at the bottom of the rankings. Do Louisiana and Mississippi have the same school taxes as NJ, Maryland and Massachusetts? Good northeastern school districts will survive this. Places without a base of high warning property owners are screwed, unless the wealthy in their state want to pony up money to educate the poor.


Or maybe the churches will open their Christian wallets and educate the poor— the way they did 100 years ago (see many of our immigrant ancestors).


Really? That’s your proposal?


Where will the money come from in poor states? Alcohol/cigarette tax? GoFundMe my local failing public school in Arkansas?
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 16:32     Subject: Department of Education going back to work

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html


Another Trump win.



Three Cheers for President Trump!!

Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!

Clap! Clap! Clap!


Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!

Three cheers!!


Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.


Not if you’re in a dirt poor state at the bottom of the rankings. Do Louisiana and Mississippi have the same school taxes as NJ, Maryland and Massachusetts? Good northeastern school districts will survive this. Places without a base of high warning property owners are screwed, unless the wealthy in their state want to pony up money to educate the poor.


Or maybe the churches will open their Christian wallets and educate the poor— the way they did 100 years ago (see many of our immigrant ancestors).


Really? That’s your proposal?
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 16:21     Subject: Department of Education going back to work

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html


Another Trump win.



Three Cheers for President Trump!!

Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!

Clap! Clap! Clap!


Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!

Three cheers!!


Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.


Not if you’re in a dirt poor state at the bottom of the rankings. Do Louisiana and Mississippi have the same school taxes as NJ, Maryland and Massachusetts? Good northeastern school districts will survive this. Places without a base of high warning property owners are screwed, unless the wealthy in their state want to pony up money to educate the poor.


Or maybe the churches will open their Christian wallets and educate the poor— the way they did 100 years ago (see many of our immigrant ancestors).
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 16:20     Subject: Department of Education going back to work

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html


Another Trump win.



Three Cheers for President Trump!!

Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!

Clap! Clap! Clap!


Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!

Three cheers!!


Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.


Not if you’re in a dirt poor state at the bottom of the rankings. Do Louisiana and Mississippi have the same school taxes as NJ, Maryland and Massachusetts? Good northeastern school districts will survive this. Places without a base of high warning property owners are screwed, unless the wealthy in their state want to pony up money to educate the poor.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 16:15     Subject: Department of Education going back to work

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html


Another Trump win.



Three Cheers for President Trump!!

Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!

Clap! Clap! Clap!


Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!

Three cheers!!


Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 16:05     Subject: Department of Education going back to work

Now THIS is judicial activism.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 16:01     Subject: Department of Education going back to work

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html


Another Trump win.



Three Cheers for President Trump!!

Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!

Clap! Clap! Clap!


Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!

Three cheers!!
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 16:00     Subject: Department of Education going back to work

SCOTUS provides no reasoning for dismantling the US Department of education, a congressionally chartered agency.

We live in an autocracy now.

I mean, there is a legal way to do this, which is to propose legislation to repeal the act that created the agency in the first place. But no, just use federalist society judges to just eliminating without any legal justification.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 15:56     Subject: Department of Education going back to work

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html


Another Trump win.



Three Cheers for President Trump!!

Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!

Clap! Clap! Clap!
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 15:47     Subject: Department of Education going back to work

Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html


Another Trump win.

Anonymous
Post 06/06/2025 17:24     Subject: Department of Education going back to work

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Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html


From the article:

"A federal judge has blocked the Trump administration from firing thousands of workers at the Department of Education, ruling that the announced terminations were a thinly veiled effort to dismantle the entire department without congressional approval."

Does the judge have the right to rule this way?
We still have a Department of Education. We still have a Secretary of Education.
Does the executive branch not decide when to staff and destaff?


Their entire argument seems to be that the Executive has to spend all the money Congress appropriates. But there is a long history of agencies returning unspent money to the Treasury. So this is probably a losing argument. The budget is a maximum, not a minimum.


And their entire argument is 100% correct. And you really can’t seem to just google impoundment. So here. This is why they are right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Budget_and_Impoundment_Control_Act_of_1974?wprov=sfti1#


This isn't impoundment though, so I don't know what your point is. This is about appropriate staffing levels. The fact that fewer staff spend less than more staff doesn't make this impoundment. This is something entirely new, and you don't have the judges to make your broad interpretation stick.


Did the administration provide an analysis to support this reduced staffing level?


It doesn't have to. If you think they should have to do so before hiring freezes/VERA/RIFs/RTO then call your Congresscritter.


So a future President can reduce Department of Defense personnel to 0?


The next Democratic candidate should run on that.

Like who?