Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 12:36     Subject: What school, which is generally considered good,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NESCAC schools with the exception of Williams and Amherst. Also BU, BC, and Northeastern good schools but not worth $90k a year nothing special about them.


Average cost of attendance after aid for Boston College and most of the NESCAC schools is much less than $90k.




Not if you are full pay like us. Near 400k after tax dollars is nothing to sneeze about. And, yes, we saved.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 12:26     Subject: What school, which is generally considered good,
agree with several themes:

- OOS schools that are expensive and hard to get into - and once you're there your peers are all B students paying a fraction. UNC best example.

- Good schools, not worth $400k by a long shot, not rich enough to give FA, no real merit. BC best example.

- Southern schools that are just not a culture fit our us. A million examples.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 12:23     Subject: Re:What school, which is generally considered good,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NYU. Not ok to withhold diplomas over war crime outrage.


That was not why it was withheld. It was withheld bc:
1. Kid submitted a script for the speech along with others who did the same.
2. Kid was gifted the oppty to speak at graduation based on a script he was supposed to follow.
3. Kid knew all along he was going to speak what he wanted to.
4. He stole the oppty from someone else who followed the rules and submitted their scripts and would have otherwise gotten the oppty to talk but for his lie.
5. He chose to speak his views not on a street corner where people can listen or not, but to a captive audience who had no choice but to listen
5a. The venue he spoke at was a celebratory event of people who worked years to finish an expensive edication endeavor. This was not the place to politicize it.
6. Your view is that he said what you believe in, so you think it’s appropriate. That is not what makes it appropriate.
7. Very likely he signed something that said he would say what the script says.

What he did was gross…and I would feel this way regardless what position he took:

Pro life
Pro choice
Israel
Palestine

Etc. the exact polarizing message isn’t the determining factor as to whether he was right or wrong.


You’re missing the point. The school shouldn’t have disallowed that commentary in the first place, leading to his covert attempt to save civilian lives. He showed courage taking a risk. Withholding a diploma for calling out war crimes is shameful. Cutting the mic at some point is the limit of what should’ve happened. History will be on the student’s side. I feel sorry for the other students because of the admin reaction, not the speaker.


He should be in jail.


DP. He should be in jail giving a speech?
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 12:21     Subject: Re:What school, which is generally considered good,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NYU. Not ok to withhold diplomas over war crime outrage.


That was not why it was withheld. It was withheld bc:
1. Kid submitted a script for the speech along with others who did the same.
2. Kid was gifted the oppty to speak at graduation based on a script he was supposed to follow.
3. Kid knew all along he was going to speak what he wanted to.
4. He stole the oppty from someone else who followed the rules and submitted their scripts and would have otherwise gotten the oppty to talk but for his lie.
5. He chose to speak his views not on a street corner where people can listen or not, but to a captive audience who had no choice but to listen
5a. The venue he spoke at was a celebratory event of people who worked years to finish an expensive edication endeavor. This was not the place to politicize it.
6. Your view is that he said what you believe in, so you think it’s appropriate. That is not what makes it appropriate.
7. Very likely he signed something that said he would say what the script says.

What he did was gross…and I would feel this way regardless what position he took:

Pro life
Pro choice
Israel
Palestine

Etc. the exact polarizing message isn’t the determining factor as to whether he was right or wrong.


You’re missing the point. The school shouldn’t have disallowed that commentary in the first place, leading to his covert attempt to save civilian lives. He showed courage taking a risk. Withholding a diploma for calling out war crimes is shameful. Cutting the mic at some point is the limit of what should’ve happened. History will be on the student’s side. I feel sorry for the other students because of the admin reaction, not the speaker.


He should be in jail.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 12:20     Subject: Re:What school, which is generally considered good,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NYU. Not ok to withhold diplomas over war crime outrage.


That was not why it was withheld. It was withheld bc:
1. Kid submitted a script for the speech along with others who did the same.
2. Kid was gifted the oppty to speak at graduation based on a script he was supposed to follow.
3. Kid knew all along he was going to speak what he wanted to.
4. He stole the oppty from someone else who followed the rules and submitted their scripts and would have otherwise gotten the oppty to talk but for his lie.
5. He chose to speak his views not on a street corner where people can listen or not, but to a captive audience who had no choice but to listen
5a. The venue he spoke at was a celebratory event of people who worked years to finish an expensive edication endeavor. This was not the place to politicize it.
6. Your view is that he said what you believe in, so you think it’s appropriate. That is not what makes it appropriate.
7. Very likely he signed something that said he would say what the script says.

What he did was gross…and I would feel this way regardless what position he took:

Pro life
Pro choice
Israel
Palestine

Etc. the exact polarizing message isn’t the determining factor as to whether he was right or wrong.


You’re missing the point. The school shouldn’t have disallowed that commentary in the first place, leading to his covert attempt to save civilian lives. He showed courage taking a risk. Withholding a diploma for calling out war crimes is shameful. Cutting the mic at some point is the limit of what should’ve happened. History will be on the student’s side. I feel sorry for the other students because of the admin reaction, not the speaker.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 12:20     Subject: What school, which is generally considered good,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The naval academy. What are you doing if you're banning books in college libraries? Un-American and even worse that it happened at one of our service academies. Terrible.


Agree the banning is bad, but the academies must follow the directives of Hegseth/the administration. What alternative do you think they have?


Not sure. They're going to end up with recruits that are fine with Un-American book banning. You're afraid of books, but you're going to take on the enemies of the United States? Okay.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 12:14     Subject: Re:What school, which is generally considered good,
Anonymous wrote:NYU. Not ok to withhold diplomas over war crime outrage.


Nope, it's just fine. That sentiment is why an engaged Jewish couple was murdered in cold blood last night. That sentiment is leading to terror on American soil. You have blood on your hands here in America when you defend this. You've crossed a line.
And there will be hell to pay.

Prosecute them all. Hold their diplomas. Accelerate their loans. Kick them out of the country.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 12:07     Subject: What school, which is generally considered good,
Anonymous wrote:NESCAC schools with the exception of Williams and Amherst. Also BU, BC, and Northeastern good schools but not worth $90k a year nothing special about them.


Average cost of attendance after aid for Boston College and most of the NESCAC schools is much less than $90k.


Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 11:40     Subject: What school, which is generally considered good,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m ok paying for access to kids who come from wealthy families.


Please tell me this is a joke, right? Right??

have you read the college forums before? People have outright stated that this is the reason to go to pricey colleges.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 11:35     Subject: What school, which is generally considered good,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Brown. I dislike the open curriculum.


I never really understood this as you can make open the core if a student wanted.


There's value in having a body of students who you know have received a common education rather than simply pursuing their own narrow interests. It gives them a common base of knowledge to bring to other classes. Anecdotally, I don't think many Brown students get a very well rounded education either. It's very selective but I've never been impressed by a Brown alumni I knew.


A defense of a liberal arts core curriculum! How rare that is these days.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 11:31     Subject: What school, which is generally considered good,
Columbia, Harvard, UVA, BC, Northeastern, and the UCs.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 11:25     Subject: Re:What school, which is generally considered good,
Anonymous wrote:NYU. Not ok to withhold diplomas over war crime outrage.


That was not why it was withheld. It was withheld bc:
1. Kid submitted a script for the speech along with others who did the same.
2. Kid was gifted the oppty to speak at graduation based on a script he was supposed to follow.
3. Kid knew all along he was going to speak what he wanted to.
4. He stole the oppty from someone else who followed the rules and submitted their scripts and would have otherwise gotten the oppty to talk but for his lie.
5. He chose to speak his views not on a street corner where people can listen or not, but to a captive audience who had no choice but to listen
5a. The venue he spoke at was a celebratory event of people who worked years to finish an expensive edication endeavor. This was not the place to politicize it.
6. Your view is that he said what you believe in, so you think it’s appropriate. That is not what makes it appropriate.
7. Very likely he signed something that said he would say what the script says.

What he did was gross…and I would feel this way regardless what position he took:

Pro life
Pro choice
Israel
Palestine

Etc. the exact polarizing message isn’t the determining factor as to whether he was right or wrong.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 11:19     Subject: What school, which is generally considered good,
Anonymous wrote:The naval academy. What are you doing if you're banning books in college libraries? Un-American and even worse that it happened at one of our service academies. Terrible.


Agree the banning is bad, but the academies must follow the directives of Hegseth/the administration. What alternative do you think they have?
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 11:18     Subject: What school, which is generally considered good,
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NESCAC schools with the exception of Williams and Amherst. Also BU, BC, and Northeastern good schools but not worth $90k a year nothing special about them.


Because college must be "special."


DP, but when I was a kid, my parents had a rule that, to get them to pay for me to go to a school over an in-state public option, I had to justify it; I had to explain what made it "special." I don't think that's unreasonable at all in a country where public college is an option. They had different standards than that PP (NESCAC schools were fine because of the small class sizes, for instance), but the principle is the same.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 11:15     Subject: What school, which is generally considered good,
Anonymous wrote:NESCAC schools with the exception of Williams and Amherst. Also BU, BC, and Northeastern good schools but not worth $90k a year nothing special about them.


Because college must be "special."