Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 10:46     Subject: NYTimes : As Gaza Siege Grinds on, Gazan Children Go Hungry and Die
This looks like it's going to be another Nakba albeit much worse in terms of the number of people displaced, starved and bombed to oblivion.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 10:39     Subject: NYTimes : As Gaza Siege Grinds on, Gazan Children Go Hungry and Die
Anonymous wrote:They don't have to starve. They can leave. Their own pride keeps them from doing so. Therefore, they are starving because of their choices.


This is what I was wondering about. Are they able to flee to surrounding countries? What are those countries doing to help?
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 10:26     Subject: NYTimes : As Gaza Siege Grinds on, Gazan Children Go Hungry and Die
They don't have to starve. They can leave. Their own pride keeps them from doing so. Therefore, they are starving because of their choices.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 09:41     Subject: NYTimes : As Gaza Siege Grinds on, Gazan Children Go Hungry and Die
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-05-05/ty-article/.premium/hostages-could-die-of-starvation-within-days-if-gaza-offensive-expands-idf-warns-govt/00000196-a1f2-df59-abde-e3fa13aa0000

Hostages are guaranteed death by starvation if this continues. Obviously, their lives were expendable considering most of them were killed by the IDF and it's Hannibal directive as well as the indiscriminate bombing that flattened Gaza.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 08:45     Subject: NYTimes : As Gaza Siege Grinds on, Gazan Children Go Hungry and Die
Anonymous wrote:They're now saying the quiet part out loud. It's pretty obvious that it was always about genociding the Palestinians to take over face

"Israelis should embrace the word ‘occupation,’ IDF won’t withdraw from Gaza" - Smotrich

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/smotrich-idf-wont-withdraw-from-gaza-even-for-a-hostage-deal-israelis-should-embrace-the-word-occupation/


And would the counter argument not be that Hamas proudly proclaims that, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be Arab?
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 08:11     Subject: NYTimes : As Gaza Siege Grinds on, Gazan Children Go Hungry and Die
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t the Arab world coming to Gaza’s aid and defense? Israel is literally the small island in a sea of Moslem countries. Plus hasn’t Egypt refused to open their border? I just don’t understand why there is so much humanitarian suffering when the Arab world could easily bring in aid through the Egyptian border.


Because Israel has a nuclear bomb and they don’t.


Having nuclear weapons is irrelevant except if by Gaza's "defense" you mean direct attacks on Israel. Iran tried this with 200+ drones and the U.S. held Israel back (the U.S. won't do that again if Iran gets froggy again).

Egypt and other surrounding Muslim countries kicked the Palestinians out a couple of decades ago. Many Palestinians were kicked out because they stoked domestic unrest in those countries. Why would they want to take them back by reopening their borders?
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 07:23     Subject: NYTimes : As Gaza Siege Grinds on, Gazan Children Go Hungry and Die
Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t the Arab world coming to Gaza’s aid and defense? Israel is literally the small island in a sea of Moslem countries. Plus hasn’t Egypt refused to open their border? I just don’t understand why there is so much humanitarian suffering when the Arab world could easily bring in aid through the Egyptian border.


Because Israel has a nuclear bomb and they don’t.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 07:17     Subject: NYTimes : As Gaza Siege Grinds on, Gazan Children Go Hungry and Die
Israel was never interested in cease fires or negotiations. This is ethnic cleansing, straight up. The Israeli right wing will accept nothing less than genocide.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 05:28     Subject: NYTimes : As Gaza Siege Grinds on, Gazan Children Go Hungry and Die
Anonymous wrote:They're now saying the quiet part out loud. It's pretty obvious that it was always about genociding the Palestinians to take over face

"Israelis should embrace the word ‘occupation,’ IDF won’t withdraw from Gaza" - Smotrich

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/smotrich-idf-wont-withdraw-from-gaza-even-for-a-hostage-deal-israelis-should-embrace-the-word-occupation/


I don't think it was always about that--at least, not for most Israelis. But I agree that it's about that now.

The longer conflicts persist, the more cynical and tolerant of atrocities people become.

Anonymous
Post 05/05/2025 23:04     Subject: NYTimes : As Gaza Siege Grinds on, Gazan Children Go Hungry and Die
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/yet-again-humanitarians-demand-action-to-stop-israel-starving-palestinians/

Outside Gaza, there is not a single place in the world where starvation is an absolute certainty.

it is distinguished as a specific war crime in the Geneva Conventions and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court and UN Resolution 2417 condemns both the “starvation of civilians as a method of warfare” and the practice of “depriving civilians of objects indispensable to their survival”.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2025 22:50     Subject: NYTimes : As Gaza Siege Grinds on, Gazan Children Go Hungry and Die
Anonymous wrote:Good thing Biden wasn't elected. Based on what everyone here said about him all of Gaza would already be starved.


Shhh, we can't talk about Biden now. They couldn't stfu about Biden for months before the election but now it is NOT ok.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2025 22:36     Subject: NYTimes : As Gaza Siege Grinds on, Gazan Children Go Hungry and Die
Take over Gaza*
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2025 22:34     Subject: NYTimes : As Gaza Siege Grinds on, Gazan Children Go Hungry and Die
They're now saying the quiet part out loud. It's pretty obvious that it was always about genociding the Palestinians to take over face

"Israelis should embrace the word ‘occupation,’ IDF won’t withdraw from Gaza" - Smotrich

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/smotrich-idf-wont-withdraw-from-gaza-even-for-a-hostage-deal-israelis-should-embrace-the-word-occupation/
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2025 21:54     Subject: Re:NYTimes : As Gaza Siege Grinds on, Gazan Children Go Hungry and Die
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have the threads on here always been this antisemitic? I'm new to the Political Discussion board. I always voted straight Dem and didn't care about politics. Since 10/7 I've realized that I was asleep at the wheel.


Unfortunately, you seem very confused about what is anti-semitism and what isn’t anti-semitism.

Express hostile views toward semitic people (spoiler alert: it’s not just Jewish people!) solely for the fact of their religion or their culture (in the case of Jewish people, a cultural identity that debuted in the late 19th century)?

That’s anti-semitism.

Criticize, denounce, scorn, boycott, short sell securities on their stock exchange, smite, encourage others to join you in doing so, or express any other form of disdain toward Israel in response to its policies and actions?

That’s not anti-semitism.



Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic, but there’s often a double standard when it comes to Israel’s actions in the press and the court of public opinion. Some people see that as veiled antisemitism. For all the outrage on Gaza’s horrific suffering, where were all these people for the Sudanese, for the Rwandans, for the Cambodians, etc? Gaza is far from the only humanitarian crisis of the last 50 years and yet one of the only that has elicited protests and campus ire.


Even if there’s truth in that, we don’t abide by thought police in the U.S.

We don’t allow people to play the “I’ll tell you what you REALLY mean!” game.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2025 20:25     Subject: NYTimes : As Gaza Siege Grinds on, Gazan Children Go Hungry and Die
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/05/israel-expand-military-operations-gaza

Looks we're getting one step further into the extinction and ethnic cleansing of the Gaza population.