Anonymous
06/03/2025 08:50
Subject: Re:NVSL: Any teams noticing drops in registrations?
Anonymous wrote:Our pool is finally adding a practice for kids whose parents work and cannot attend. Six years ago, when I asked about this for my kid the team rep told me that they didn't have it and if I really wanted my kid on the team I would find a way to get him to practice and then get him to camp. It was said with, frankly, contempt. We couldn't flex our schedules like that and the camps that my kid liked did not have space for a kid showing up an hour late so we didn't do summer swim. Which was fine, except on the nights that the team had their parties and our kid wasn't allowed to participate. That sucked for our kid. I think they got away with it, and yes excluding the kids of working parents is still excluding, is because there was enough people with flexible schedules who were willing to pay for summer nannies. This year that changed and they have added a swim time for kids of working parents.
Too late for us but happy for the other kids who won't be excluded because of the attitudes of the swim team reps.
Make whatever excuses you want but when you tell people who are interested in joining that you won't work with them you are actively exclusing kids. I know other people asked the same thing because of the sigh and the body language. You can call working and not having the money to pay for someone to drive your kid to swim and then camp or for a summer nanny an excuse al you want but your attitude and unwillingness to work with families at your pool actively excluded kids.
Its an interesting question about 'excluding.' Having evening practice when the pool is open to the public also 'excludes' non swim team families b/c they lose access to the pool (or a significant portion of the pool) while the team practices. How big of a deal this is partly depends on the size and layout of the pool. In terms of paying for a nanny vs paying for camp- I found that the nanny was cheaper when my kids were little. This partly depends on how many kids you have and what kinds of camps you do. It's okay that swim team doesn't work for you- but you chose a camp that didn't allow for a later drop off. That's a choice.
Anonymous
06/03/2025 08:45
Subject: Re:NVSL: Any teams noticing drops in registrations?
Maybe you should have offered to help the team rep instead of complain about them.
Anonymous
06/03/2025 08:05
Subject: Re:NVSL: Any teams noticing drops in registrations?
Our pool is finally adding a practice for kids whose parents work and cannot attend. Six years ago, when I asked about this for my kid the team rep told me that they didn't have it and if I really wanted my kid on the team I would find a way to get him to practice and then get him to camp. It was said with, frankly, contempt. We couldn't flex our schedules like that and the camps that my kid liked did not have space for a kid showing up an hour late so we didn't do summer swim. Which was fine, except on the nights that the team had their parties and our kid wasn't allowed to participate. That sucked for our kid. I think they got away with it, and yes excluding the kids of working parents is still excluding, is because there was enough people with flexible schedules who were willing to pay for summer nannies. This year that changed and they have added a swim time for kids of working parents.
Too late for us but happy for the other kids who won't be excluded because of the attitudes of the swim team reps.
Make whatever excuses you want but when you tell people who are interested in joining that you won't work with them you are actively exclusing kids. I know other people asked the same thing because of the sigh and the body language. You can call working and not having the money to pay for someone to drive your kid to swim and then camp or for a summer nanny an excuse al you want but your attitude and unwillingness to work with families at your pool actively excluded kids.
Too late for us but happy for the other kids who won't be excluded because of the attitudes of the swim team reps.
Make whatever excuses you want but when you tell people who are interested in joining that you won't work with them you are actively exclusing kids. I know other people asked the same thing because of the sigh and the body language. You can call working and not having the money to pay for someone to drive your kid to swim and then camp or for a summer nanny an excuse al you want but your attitude and unwillingness to work with families at your pool actively excluded kids.
Anonymous
06/02/2025 07:10
Subject: NVSL: Any teams noticing drops in registrations?
Yes this is literally a thread about the NVSL. Here is a link to the bylaws in question
https://mynvsl.com/file/35437/NORTHERN_VIRGINIA_SWIMMING_LEAGUE_BYLAWS_revised_2021_pdf
Swimmers must have a bona fide family membership at the pool to swim, a membership that only allows kids to swim is specifically not allowed. So if the pool is in fact allowing kids to join the swim team without a membership that is a violation of NVSL bylaws.
If the pool has created summer rental memberships, where the family is given full access to facilities those are considered Bona fide family memberships. Summer rental memberships go by different names but basically it means you pay your dues and have full summer access but you don’t own a share of the corporation and are generally not entitled to vote or hold office.
https://mynvsl.com/file/35437/NORTHERN_VIRGINIA_SWIMMING_LEAGUE_BYLAWS_revised_2021_pdf
Swimmers must have a bona fide family membership at the pool to swim, a membership that only allows kids to swim is specifically not allowed. So if the pool is in fact allowing kids to join the swim team without a membership that is a violation of NVSL bylaws.
If the pool has created summer rental memberships, where the family is given full access to facilities those are considered Bona fide family memberships. Summer rental memberships go by different names but basically it means you pay your dues and have full summer access but you don’t own a share of the corporation and are generally not entitled to vote or hold office.
Anonymous
06/02/2025 02:29
Subject: NVSL: Any teams noticing drops in registrations?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our team is down about 30 registrations. The club is down about 18 memberships compared to 2024.
We were similar last year but not down memberships, so this summer our pool is allowing waitlist families’ kids to join swim, dive and tennis.
It’s slightly annoying for kids who waited years for their turns while they were on the waitlist but we have some gaps in certain age groups (probably the impact of the waitlist in the first place!) so most people supported the board’s decision.
This is against NVSL rules. If someone finds out and turns you in your entire team will be in huge trouble
Clearly this is not NVSL, although this board does assume that anything summer swim-related is NVSL unless stated otherwise, so maybe that should have been said upfront.
The post title says NVSL
Anonymous
06/02/2025 01:44
Subject: NVSL: Any teams noticing drops in registrations?
One parent has lost fed job and the other is a teacher whose job security looks ok for now but questionable long term, so we really hesitated about joining this year. We have to pay $650 to join the pool as summer members plus $200 for the team fees, and that a HUGE for us. Other summers when the pool membership was $450 and team was $120 and we were both employed, we didn't hesitate. We did end up joining over Memorial Day weekend.
I would not be surprised that many fed families are in the same boat.
I would not be surprised that many fed families are in the same boat.
Anonymous
06/02/2025 00:27
Subject: NVSL: Any teams noticing drops in registrations?
NP and this is not our pool because ours has a crappy website, but ours is moving to a policy similar to this one with temporary membership la for waitlist families partly because memberships are dropping a bit. Mohican does a great job of explaining theirs in detail:
https://mohicanpool.org/membership/membership-information/
https://mohicanpool.org/membership/membership-information/
Anonymous
06/02/2025 00:24
Subject: NVSL: Any teams noticing drops in registrations?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our team is down about 30 registrations. The club is down about 18 memberships compared to 2024.
We were similar last year but not down memberships, so this summer our pool is allowing waitlist families’ kids to join swim, dive and tennis.
It’s slightly annoying for kids who waited years for their turns while they were on the waitlist but we have some gaps in certain age groups (probably the impact of the waitlist in the first place!) so most people supported the board’s decision.
This is against NVSL rules. If someone finds out and turns you in your entire team will be in huge trouble
Clearly this is not NVSL, although this board does assume that anything summer swim-related is NVSL unless stated otherwise, so maybe that should have been said upfront.
Anonymous
06/01/2025 23:43
Subject: NVSL: Any teams noticing drops in registrations?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our team is down about 30 registrations. The club is down about 18 memberships compared to 2024.
We were similar last year but not down memberships, so this summer our pool is allowing waitlist families’ kids to join swim, dive and tennis.
It’s slightly annoying for kids who waited years for their turns while they were on the waitlist but we have some gaps in certain age groups (probably the impact of the waitlist in the first place!) so most people supported the board’s decision.
This is against NVSL rules. If someone finds out and turns you in your entire team will be in huge trouble
Anonymous
06/01/2025 22:04
Subject: NVSL: Any teams noticing drops in registrations?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our team is down about 30 registrations. The club is down about 18 memberships compared to 2024.
We were similar last year but not down memberships, so this summer our pool is allowing waitlist families’ kids to join swim, dive and tennis.
It’s slightly annoying for kids who waited years for their turns while they were on the waitlist but we have some gaps in certain age groups (probably the impact of the waitlist in the first place!) so most people supported the board’s decision.
They can join the team without being dues paying members of the club?
Yes. They’ve created a unique summer dues structure for this summer for waitlist families. I didn’t read that part of the board meeting minutes so I don’t know the details. Apparently it is all compliant with league rules and was approved because it doesn’t encompass the entire waitlist but a certain section of it, and they can only be waitlist summer members for one summer before they have to be full members.
Which league is this?
It is in your league and they are deliberately scheming to take away your child’s spot at all-stars. You should probably contact the boards of every pool in the dmv and talk to league and division reps asap.
Anonymous
06/01/2025 13:07
Subject: NVSL: Any teams noticing drops in registrations?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our team is down about 30 registrations. The club is down about 18 memberships compared to 2024.
We were similar last year but not down memberships, so this summer our pool is allowing waitlist families’ kids to join swim, dive and tennis.
It’s slightly annoying for kids who waited years for their turns while they were on the waitlist but we have some gaps in certain age groups (probably the impact of the waitlist in the first place!) so most people supported the board’s decision.
They can join the team without being dues paying members of the club?
Yes. They’ve created a unique summer dues structure for this summer for waitlist families. I didn’t read that part of the board meeting minutes so I don’t know the details. Apparently it is all compliant with league rules and was approved because it doesn’t encompass the entire waitlist but a certain section of it, and they can only be waitlist summer members for one summer before they have to be full members.
Which league is this?
Anonymous
06/01/2025 12:57
Subject: NVSL: Any teams noticing drops in registrations?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our team is down about 30 registrations. The club is down about 18 memberships compared to 2024.
We were similar last year but not down memberships, so this summer our pool is allowing waitlist families’ kids to join swim, dive and tennis.
It’s slightly annoying for kids who waited years for their turns while they were on the waitlist but we have some gaps in certain age groups (probably the impact of the waitlist in the first place!) so most people supported the board’s decision.
They can join the team without being dues paying members of the club?
Yes. They’ve created a unique summer dues structure for this summer for waitlist families. I didn’t read that part of the board meeting minutes so I don’t know the details. Apparently it is all compliant with league rules and was approved because it doesn’t encompass the entire waitlist but a certain section of it, and they can only be waitlist summer members for one summer before they have to be full members.
Anonymous
05/31/2025 15:29
Subject: Re:NVSL: Any teams noticing drops in registrations?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it’s mostly due to RTO. It was always a kids of SAHM thing and sadly will be again. It was nice when it was more inclusive for a while?
Don’t let the door hit you . . Z.
Oh wow, that’s nice. My kids can still participate because my spouse and I still have flexible schedules. But I have empathy for kids who can’t anymore. You’re a jerk - I hope you’re stuck in B meet purgatory all summer.
+1 And I hope your pool doesn't post a ladder and you never know if it's A? B? But mostly B. On Monday nights. Jerk face.
Anonymous
05/31/2025 14:43
Subject: NVSL: Any teams noticing drops in registrations?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our team is down about 30 registrations. The club is down about 18 memberships compared to 2024.
We were similar last year but not down memberships, so this summer our pool is allowing waitlist families’ kids to join swim, dive and tennis.
It’s slightly annoying for kids who waited years for their turns while they were on the waitlist but we have some gaps in certain age groups (probably the impact of the waitlist in the first place!) so most people supported the board’s decision.
They can join the team without being dues paying members of the club?
Anonymous
05/31/2025 13:13
Subject: NVSL: Any teams noticing drops in registrations?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree with previous comments that NVSL needs to adjust the season a week later for late FCPS finish. My kids spring sports aren’t done until school is out and then they are late/not available and then not in swim shape by half way through.
Heck no! There would be only 2 weeks between end of summer swimming season and start of school.
And HS fall sports practices & marching band usually start 3 weeks before school starts.