Anonymous
04/15/2025 13:58
Subject: Re:Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 13:28
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty amazing who you guys will line up to protect. This guy never should have been here in the first place and no judge can change that.
Due process. It is in the constitution. Everyone gets due process in this country. Even the most blatant criminals. Even non-citizens. You and I don’t get to choose who gets their day in court. The constitution is quite clear, and you know this. So do you just not agree with the constitution? Do you not think we need to follow it any longer?
DP. He would get Due Process if he were in the U.S. But he's not.
Some administrative errors cannot be fixed if a sovereign country is involved.
So as long as he can get a plane into international airspace before anyone can get the courts to act, whoever is inside will be El Salvador’s problem.
If the President is acting within his legal authority, then yes he can. As for the current situation, there was an administrative error. Unfortunately, there is no remedy because of the involvement of a foreign government having custody of its own citizen. It seems like folks here want a federal court to order (or enforce an order) the President to exercise his Article II powers, under threat of contempt of court, which the Supreme Court has expressly prohibited.
So where are we now? The El Salvador government will likely provide the US Government with an official notice that the gang conditions existing In 2019 no longer exist. Therefore, any prohibition on removal from the US is now moot. The El Salvador government could also find that he is a member of MS-13 and keep him locked up. That would be the internal affairs of a foreign country in which the US Government - and federal courts cannot interfere.
So then you believe that Trump can disappear anyone he wants without due process. Is that. problem for you or not? I conspicuously don’t see you mention that little detail.
Due Process applies only if he is here, which he is not. Going forward, the Administration will need to follow Due Process, so your argument is moot.
The Admin needed to follow due process before too. Now they need to correct their willful flouting of the law.
And they can't. There is a sovereign nation involved. It also wasn't a willful flouting of the law - it was an administrative error.
Bomb El Salvador back to the Stone Age and send in delta.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 13:27
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If he had never ILLEGALLY come across the border, he would never have been borderline legally sent back.
He wasn't even borderline legally sent back. He was sent back ILLEGALLY.
2 wrongs don't make a right, he came illegally and was sent back supposively illegally but he was illegal to begin with.
If you don't want to have a Supreme Court, then you should move to another country that doesn't have one. In this country, we don't spout nonsense, we respect the Supreme Court and we follow their orders.
hopefully there will be more clarity in that the US Constitution applies to citizens maybe trump should send an EO out.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 13:24
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If he had never ILLEGALLY come across the border, he would never have been borderline legally sent back.
He wasn't even borderline legally sent back. He was sent back ILLEGALLY.
2 wrongs don't make a right, he came illegally and was sent back supposively illegally but he was illegal to begin with.
Illiteracy is your strong suit, isn't it?
Anonymous
04/15/2025 13:18
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If he had never ILLEGALLY come across the border, he would never have been borderline legally sent back.
He wasn't even borderline legally sent back. He was sent back ILLEGALLY.
2 wrongs don't make a right, he came illegally and was sent back supposively illegally but he was illegal to begin with.
If you don't want to have a Supreme Court, then you should move to another country that doesn't have one. In this country, we don't spout nonsense, we respect the Supreme Court and we follow their orders.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 13:14
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If he had never ILLEGALLY come across the border, he would never have been borderline legally sent back.
He wasn't even borderline legally sent back. He was sent back ILLEGALLY.
2 wrongs don't make a right, he came illegally and was sent back supposively illegally but he was illegal to begin with.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 13:00
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty amazing who you guys will line up to protect. This guy never should have been here in the first place and no judge can change that.
Due process. It is in the constitution. Everyone gets due process in this country. Even the most blatant criminals. Even non-citizens. You and I don’t get to choose who gets their day in court. The constitution is quite clear, and you know this. So do you just not agree with the constitution? Do you not think we need to follow it any longer?
DP. He would get Due Process if he were in the U.S. But he's not.
Some administrative errors cannot be fixed if a sovereign country is involved.
So as long as he can get a plane into international airspace before anyone can get the courts to act, whoever is inside will be El Salvador’s problem.
If the President is acting within his legal authority, then yes he can. As for the current situation, there was an administrative error. Unfortunately, there is no remedy because of the involvement of a foreign government having custody of its own citizen. It seems like folks here want a federal court to order (or enforce an order) the President to exercise his Article II powers, under threat of contempt of court, which the Supreme Court has expressly prohibited.
So where are we now? The El Salvador government will likely provide the US Government with an official notice that the gang conditions existing In 2019 no longer exist. Therefore, any prohibition on removal from the US is now moot. The El Salvador government could also find that he is a member of MS-13 and keep him locked up. That would be the internal affairs of a foreign country in which the US Government - and federal courts cannot interfere.
So then you believe that Trump can disappear anyone he wants without due process. Is that. problem for you or not? I conspicuously don’t see you mention that little detail.
Due Process applies only if he is here, which he is not. Going forward, the Administration will need to follow Due Process, so your argument is moot.
The Admin needed to follow due process before too. Now they need to correct their willful flouting of the law.
And they can't. There is a sovereign nation involved. It also wasn't a willful flouting of the law - it was an administrative error.
The Court specifically ruled that the removal was "illegal". The qoutes are used intentionally to show that Court used THAT word.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 12:51
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find this very alarming and can't believe it's not getting more attention.
But I guess in Trump world it's just another Tuesday.
I think it's fair to say that this is getting a lot of attention.
DP. Not enough given the level of horror.
Being home in your country of citizenship is a “horror” ??
Let’s see how you’d feel if you were imprisoned illegally in your country of citizenship with no end in sight and your life at risk.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 12:48
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the red line everyone was talking about? Trump ignoring the SC? So now what?
He hasn't ignored the Supreme Court. It was the lower level judge that did so.
Supreme Court asked lower court to clarify order giving respect to President's power to conduct foreign policy, and the judge did not do so, instead removing the word 'effectuate' from the original order.
Supreme Court said 'facilitate' release from custody.
Release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador
Anonymous
Anonymous
04/15/2025 12:01
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Think of all the "administrative errors" we are going to have now that DOGE and a bunch of super young hackers want to make as much as possible done by AI.
Do you think AI cares whether you are a legal citizen or not?
This. Their motto is break things and then fix the bit was broken. They admitted that it was better to fire everyone and that they knew they’d need to rehire a small percentage. That’s dangerous when it comes to human rights.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 11:58
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Think of all the "administrative errors" we are going to have now that DOGE and a bunch of super young hackers want to make as much as possible done by AI.
Do you think AI cares whether you are a legal citizen or not?
Do you think AI cares whether you are a legal citizen or not?
Anonymous
04/15/2025 11:57
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty amazing who you guys will line up to protect. This guy never should have been here in the first place and no judge can change that.
Due process. It is in the constitution. Everyone gets due process in this country. Even the most blatant criminals. Even non-citizens. You and I don’t get to choose who gets their day in court. The constitution is quite clear, and you know this. So do you just not agree with the constitution? Do you not think we need to follow it any longer?
DP. He would get Due Process if he were in the U.S. But he's not.
Some administrative errors cannot be fixed if a sovereign country is involved.
So as long as he can get a plane into international airspace before anyone can get the courts to act, whoever is inside will be El Salvador’s problem.
If the President is acting within his legal authority, then yes he can. As for the current situation, there was an administrative error. Unfortunately, there is no remedy because of the involvement of a foreign government having custody of its own citizen. It seems like folks here want a federal court to order (or enforce an order) the President to exercise his Article II powers, under threat of contempt of court, which the Supreme Court has expressly prohibited.
So where are we now? The El Salvador government will likely provide the US Government with an official notice that the gang conditions existing In 2019 no longer exist. Therefore, any prohibition on removal from the US is now moot. The El Salvador government could also find that he is a member of MS-13 and keep him locked up. That would be the internal affairs of a foreign country in which the US Government - and federal courts cannot interfere.
So then you believe that Trump can disappear anyone he wants without due process. Is that. problem for you or not? I conspicuously don’t see you mention that little detail.
Due Process applies only if he is here, which he is not. Going forward, the Administration will need to follow Due Process, so your argument is moot.
The Admin needed to follow due process before too. Now they need to correct their willful flouting of the law.
And they can't. There is a sovereign nation involved. It also wasn't a willful flouting of the law - it was an administrative error.
What has the U.S. taken to effectuate this man’s return?
Anonymous
04/15/2025 11:48
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty amazing who you guys will line up to protect. This guy never should have been here in the first place and no judge can change that.
Due process. It is in the constitution. Everyone gets due process in this country. Even the most blatant criminals. Even non-citizens. You and I don’t get to choose who gets their day in court. The constitution is quite clear, and you know this. So do you just not agree with the constitution? Do you not think we need to follow it any longer?
DP. He would get Due Process if he were in the U.S. But he's not.
Some administrative errors cannot be fixed if a sovereign country is involved.
So as long as he can get a plane into international airspace before anyone can get the courts to act, whoever is inside will be El Salvador’s problem.
If the President is acting within his legal authority, then yes he can. As for the current situation, there was an administrative error. Unfortunately, there is no remedy because of the involvement of a foreign government having custody of its own citizen. It seems like folks here want a federal court to order (or enforce an order) the President to exercise his Article II powers, under threat of contempt of court, which the Supreme Court has expressly prohibited.
So where are we now? The El Salvador government will likely provide the US Government with an official notice that the gang conditions existing In 2019 no longer exist. Therefore, any prohibition on removal from the US is now moot. The El Salvador government could also find that he is a member of MS-13 and keep him locked up. That would be the internal affairs of a foreign country in which the US Government - and federal courts cannot interfere.
So then you believe that Trump can disappear anyone he wants without due process. Is that. problem for you or not? I conspicuously don’t see you mention that little detail.
Due Process applies only if he is here, which he is not. Going forward, the Administration will need to follow Due Process, so your argument is moot.
The Admin needed to follow due process before too. Now they need to correct their willful flouting of the law.
And they can't. There is a sovereign nation involved. It also wasn't a willful flouting of the law - it was an administrative error.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 11:47
Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:If he had never ILLEGALLY come across the border, he would never have been borderline legally sent back.
What a weird argument. The executive branch and judiciary are not saying that. You are really out there when you’ve lost Thomas and Alito.