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Anonymous wrote:This is why a lot of people are sending their kids overseas. St. Andrews Scotland is approx 30K/year. LSE is about 28K. National University of Singapore is 10-30K depending on what course is chosen. That's a lot less than 90K and those universities have placements/name recognition on par with Tufts, I would say. YMMV.

Define "a lot". There are 1600 Americans at St Andrews...282 American undergrads at LSE. There are 19.1MM students enrolled in US colleges.

Those are just 3 examples of non-US colleges. If you haven't realized, there are many more. So there are "a lot" of American kids studying overseas. More than in the USA? Obviously not. But if you'd rather pay 90K for Wash U than 28K for LSE, different strokes for different folks...

Are you including housing in that $28k figure?

No...it's also not $28k, it's $44k.

Anonymous wrote:It just depends on your budget. We targeted $360k per kid in their 529 plans, and we view it as a completed gift for their education and want them to spend it on such. So, if they want to go to Tufts, I'll support it. I view education as the greatest gift that we can provide them.

Well obviously. If 90K a year is a drop in the bucket to you like the Wash U poster, then send your kids wherever. Presumably the OP is more sensitive to price. Only 18% of American households make more than 100K a year. This board is full of relatively rich posters if 90K means nothing to you.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why a lot of people are sending their kids overseas. St. Andrews Scotland is approx 30K/year. LSE is about 28K. National University of Singapore is 10-30K depending on what course is chosen. That's a lot less than 90K and those universities have placements/name recognition on par with Tufts, I would say. YMMV.

Define "a lot". There are 1600 Americans at St Andrews...282 American undergrads at LSE. There are 19.1MM students enrolled in US colleges.

Those are just 3 examples of non-US colleges. If you haven't realized, there are many more. So there are "a lot" of American kids studying overseas. More than in the USA? Obviously not. But if you'd rather pay 90K for Wash U than 28K for LSE, different strokes for different folks...

I got you...but no, none of the numbers add up to "a lot" in the scheme of things. Put another way, if someone says that less than 0.5% of all US kids go to college overseas, nobody reacts with "wow, that's a lot".

Also...just tuition at LSE for an international student is 34,000 pounds = $44,030. So, call it $60k - $65k total cost of attendance compared to $90k at WashU.

Of course, you fail to accept that many kids have affordable in-state school options which are cheaper than both or kids receive merit aid at private schools, and they take those options.

You're "failing" to remain on topic because the title of the thread is "which schools are worth 90K?" which is why no one is bringing in state school options, because they don't cost 90K.

Well, then why are you bringing up international schools (which are all state schools BTW) that also don't cost $90k?

Anonymous wrote:People that have saved 400,000 for their child's education don't force or encourage their kid to go to a cheaper school. They let their kid pick the school that they want to attend.

This is us. One kid has some learning challenges and would do great at a small liberal arts school with small class sizes where they can play their sport at the D3 level. Getting through college will be hard enough; grad school isn't happening. So, if we need to use their "fully funded" 529 plan to pay for a small but expensive liberal arts school that is not highly ranked, fine. I'm glad we can. We have another kid who is super bright and motivated and says they want to attend medical school, so we might encourage them to be more selective and cost-conscious so they have some money to contribute toward medical school.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why a lot of people are sending their kids overseas. St. Andrews Scotland is approx 30K/year. LSE is about 28K. National University of Singapore is 10-30K depending on what course is chosen. That's a lot less than 90K and those universities have placements/name recognition on par with Tufts, I would say. YMMV.

It was an interesting thought/option. We looked overseas for our oldest, not to save money but as a safety. She liked and was accepted a McGill but in the end it was to risky choosing a major from the start since she was not really sure about what she wanted to do.

My extended family lives in Vermont. All the kids in the most recent generation went to Canadian schools (McGill, UBC etc.) even though they got into NYU, BU etc because those schools were half the cost. It's pretty common in their high schools, particularly since they're relatively closer to the border than we are in DC...

Anonymous wrote:We were shocked to find out, during our tufts tour, that the institution has surpassed $91,000. Tufts is a good school ,a great school even, but $91k is way overselling what it actually provides and its mediocre alumni network and few career resources. I understand that the purpose of a college isn't job training, but, at some point, when you're charging such obscene prices, you have to guarantee a return on the investment beyond being a "whole, educated person." For you, what institutions are worth $90k+, if any?

As a non American, its astounding to see so many people here gaslighted into thinking that 90k+ for a college education is acceptable. No where in the world is higher education this prohibitively costly. Its indecent almost.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke has been a top 10 school for 40-50 years.

Duke 30 years ago was definitely not top 10. It was accepting around 25% of kids when I was applying

40 years ago I went to Cornell but looked at Duke. Neither school was considered a difficult admit by our counselors. If you had the grades and test scores you were pretty likely to get in.

Anonymous wrote:Duke has been a top 10 school for 40-50 years.

Hamilton has been a top SLAC for 200 years.

Anonymous wrote:Duke has been a top 10 school for 40-50 years.

Duke 30 years ago was definitely not top 10. It was accepting around 25% of kids when I was applying

Any school where my kid will be happiest and healthiest. Not all kids do well at large state schools, for a variety of reasons. It was health for us. We needed our oldest to be close to her doctors and our support, so looked at schools within an hour or so. The one that was the best fit happened to be 80k. Thankfully, she is a senior and has a job lined up from her internship, making 90k. We are cool with how it turned out!

These theoretical questions only serve to cause drama on threads. It's worth whatever a person is willing to pay. End of story.

People that have saved 400,000 for their child's education don't force or encourage their kid to go to a cheaper school. They let their kid pick the school that they want to attend.

Duke has been a top 10 school for 40-50 years.

Anonymous wrote:Tough to beat Clemson, UTexas, IU, Purdue, UGa at a fraction of the costs of mediocre privates.

"Tough to beat"? Not really; that isn't a very high bar.

Anonymous wrote:This is why a lot of people are sending their kids overseas. St. Andrews Scotland is approx 30K/year. LSE is about 28K. National University of Singapore is 10-30K depending on what course is chosen. That's a lot less than 90K and those universities have placements/name recognition on par with Tufts, I would say. YMMV.

It was an interesting thought/option. We looked overseas for our oldest, not to save money but as a safety. She liked and was accepted a McGill but in the end it was to risky choosing a major from the start since she was not really sure about what she wanted to do.

Anonymous wrote:My kid is a CS major. The only schools worth 90K per year.

MIT
Stanford
Berkeley


He wanted to be in East coast, so Stanford and Berkeley was not applied to. Did not get accepted to MIT. So he goes to UMD for free. I saved 400K.

And arguably sacrifices almost nothing in educational/academic quality. That's what we call a win around these parts.