Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 18:39     Subject: The Beginning of A Genetic Elite?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charles Murray wrote a book about this 30 years ago. Liberals freaked out because there was a section on race and IQ.


You mean his junk science?

The fact that Trump got to become president being absolute garbage and stupid, while Obama had to literally be the FIRST black editor of HLR, says everything about why and how people achieve in America.

The GI Bill being another example. While white men got to benefit, the black men who served were not afforded the same opportunities to achieve the "American dream."

At every turn in American history, barriers have been put up to BLOCK achievement for those who were not white.


Obama is proof that genetics matter. Obama has 2 parents with doctorate degrees. A mother who woke up him at 4am to read books, and a father who dreamed and was close to being president of his own country Kenya. He obviously knew of his fathers dream and he adapted the same one.

Obama is a second gen legacy student at Harvard, and his grandma was VP of a bank. His Grandpa was a WW2 vet and hit the big time as a furniture salesman and moved from KS to Hawaii.

Trump also has good genes in his family. His sister is a judge. His uncle was a physicist at MIT. Parents lived to their 90’s. Father was a successful entrepreneur. Trumps kids are all great too. For someone with 5 kids from three different women, they seem to be alright compared to other WH kids. I would hate to bring up the Bidens but

Says genetics matter.

Describes wholly environmental factors.

It's Ok to sit out a discussion when you don't know what you're talking about.


Environment only goes so far and someone with an extremely low polygenic score for IQ (-2SD) has a very low probability of successfully completing college or obtaining a professional job. Environment cannot make someone who has limited genetic potential a genius.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 18:35     Subject: Re:The Beginning of A Genetic Elite?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people are nuts. We are too dumb to achieve any of this. Have you been asleep for the last few months?

If anything, we are moving in the opposite direction. There will be a massive brain drain in the U.S.


Maybe you don't understand statistics and genomics, but genetic selection has already been validated and the science is sound. There are already over a hundred babies that have been been born after IVF using polygenic selection for disease risk. There are at least a dozen babies that I'm aware of that have been genetically selected for IQ. Some of them have not been born yet, but will be born in the next few months.


How close are we to artificial womb, it can’t be far behind?


Probably multiple decades away. It will be very difficult to get a regulator or reputable research institution to agree to conduct this kind of research on humans.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 08:19     Subject: The Beginning of A Genetic Elite?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charles Murray wrote a book about this 30 years ago. Liberals freaked out because there was a section on race and IQ.


You mean his junk science?

The fact that Trump got to become president being absolute garbage and stupid, while Obama had to literally be the FIRST black editor of HLR, says everything about why and how people achieve in America.

The GI Bill being another example. While white men got to benefit, the black men who served were not afforded the same opportunities to achieve the "American dream."

At every turn in American history, barriers have been put up to BLOCK achievement for those who were not white.


Obama is proof that genetics matter. Obama has 2 parents with doctorate degrees. A mother who woke up him at 4am to read books, and a father who dreamed and was close to being president of his own country Kenya. He obviously knew of his fathers dream and he adapted the same one.

Obama is a second gen legacy student at Harvard, and his grandma was VP of a bank. His Grandpa was a WW2 vet and hit the big time as a furniture salesman and moved from KS to Hawaii.

Trump also has good genes in his family. His sister is a judge. His uncle was a physicist at MIT. Parents lived to their 90’s. Father was a successful entrepreneur. Trumps kids are all great too. For someone with 5 kids from three different women, they seem to be alright compared to other WH kids. I would hate to bring up the Bidens but

Says genetics matter.

Describes wholly environmental factors.

It's Ok to sit out a discussion when you don't know what you're talking about.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 07:57     Subject: The Beginning of A Genetic Elite?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Charles Murray wrote a book about this 30 years ago. Liberals freaked out because there was a section on race and IQ.


You mean his junk science?

The fact that Trump got to become president being absolute garbage and stupid, while Obama had to literally be the FIRST black editor of HLR, says everything about why and how people achieve in America.

The GI Bill being another example. While white men got to benefit, the black men who served were not afforded the same opportunities to achieve the "American dream."

At every turn in American history, barriers have been put up to BLOCK achievement for those who were not white.


Obama is proof that genetics matter. Obama has 2 parents with doctorate degrees. A mother who woke up him at 4am to read books, and a father who dreamed and was close to being president of his own country Kenya. He obviously knew of his fathers dream and he adapted the same one.

Obama is a second gen legacy student at Harvard, and his grandma was VP of a bank. His Grandpa was a WW2 vet and hit the big time as a furniture salesman and moved from KS to Hawaii.

Trump also has good genes in his family. His sister is a judge. His uncle was a physicist at MIT. Parents lived to their 90’s. Father was a successful entrepreneur. Trumps kids are all great too. For someone with 5 kids from three different women, they seem to be alright compared to other WH kids. I would hate to bring up the Bidens but


Trump’s “good genes” produced kids who steal from cancer charities, slaughter animals for fun, market shoddy and dangerous products, and urge people to vote the day after election day (just to take a few of many, many examples). At least three of them had plastic surgery. It took Daddy’s connections to get them into Ivy League schools.

Trump himself needed his brother to pull strings with a personal connection at Wharton to get in (which wasn’t hard in those days, they had a 40-50% admission rate). The admissions officer said of Trump “I certainly was not struck by any sense that I'm sitting before a genius. Certainly not a super genius."

William T. Kelley, one of Trump’s Wharton professors, described him as “one of the dumbest goddam students I ever had”.

These are not “good genes”.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2025 06:31     Subject: The Beginning of A Genetic Elite?

Nazi