Anonymous wrote:NP. Well, they could just eliminate a few of the ridiculous number of administrative positions that have popped up like so many poisonous mushrooms on campuses and start hiring professors again.

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Anonymous wrote:So, the University of California, *not* all of academia.

Stanford University, MIT, Northwestern University, Cornell University, University of Notre Dame, Emory University, University of Washington, and North Carolina State University are among other institutions that have announced either full or partial hiring freezes. You should expect more to follow suit.

Anyone who knows anything about academe knows that this has been going on since the pandemic when enrollment continued its trend of falling off the cliff. A college education has become too expensive and the cost benefit analysis is not always in the favor of throwing yourself into debt for 10 years.

The science community disagrees with you.

Currents cuts to research at eu precedented. The withholding of allocated USAID money/ NIH/ CDC and Dept Energy funding have caused many planned health and STEM research projects to be cancelled or paused.

DC is post doc at leading STEM academic research center and all the post docs are worried about finding work now.

Also enrollment has not been dropping off at top colleges but they are impacted by the research cuts as well.

You reference post doctoral students in STEM and top colleges. I was referring to the generic college education that does not lead to a doctorate, much less a post doc or to a top college.

So with PhD programs gutted, who are the future professors at universities? The pipeline has been cut.

We have too many PhDs starving working as adjuncts and lecturers due to extremely limited openings for professor positions so no need to worry about having enough PhDs.

On top of that, many colleges will close in the future.

We need to reduce the Chinese Communists who are sent to steal OUR research.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't see why subsidizing research needs to be done by the public.

All of the endpoints are for private industry.

A) Why do you get an education? So that you can get a job in private industry.

B) Why do we develop technology? So that private industry can make money developing it.

For point A, I can see the argument that we can make people that wouldn't otherwise have an opportunity to get the education and get the jobs, but in practice is doesn't play out like that. Private industry is so nepotistic. Very few of the people that get government aid end up in good jobs in industry. In cases there are jobs that the Good Ol' Boys for industry don't want to give their kids, they clearly prefer foreigners as indentured servants. So basically, we pay to train foreigners so that private industry can take advantage of indentured servants. The rest of us end up with giant academic bills.

Before World War 2, the principle language of science was German. After World War 2, it is English. Think about it.

This. It happens very quickly. Academics were targeted in the decade prior to ww2 and they took refuge positions elsewhere, that was the end, it didn't come back.

Why is it science did so well in Fascist countries?

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Anonymous wrote:So, the University of California, *not* all of academia.

Stanford University, MIT, Northwestern University, Cornell University, University of Notre Dame, Emory University, University of Washington, and North Carolina State University are among other institutions that have announced either full or partial hiring freezes. You should expect more to follow suit.

Anyone who knows anything about academe knows that this has been going on since the pandemic when enrollment continued its trend of falling off the cliff. A college education has become too expensive and the cost benefit analysis is not always in the favor of throwing yourself into debt for 10 years.

The science community disagrees with you.

Currents cuts to research at eu precedented. The withholding of allocated USAID money/ NIH/ CDC and Dept Energy funding have caused many planned health and STEM research projects to be cancelled or paused.

DC is post doc at leading STEM academic research center and all the post docs are worried about finding work now.

Also enrollment has not been dropping off at top colleges but they are impacted by the research cuts as well.

You reference post doctoral students in STEM and top colleges. I was referring to the generic college education that does not lead to a doctorate, much less a post doc or to a top college.

So with PhD programs gutted, who are the future professors at universities? The pipeline has been cut.

We have too many PhDs starving working as adjuncts and lecturers due to extremely limited openings for professor positions so no need to worry about having enough PhDs.

On top of that, many colleges will close in the future.