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Anonymous wrote:PP again. We have a simple test which has a 75% success rate as a filter. We ask which editor the candidate prefers. Either vi or emacs are passing answers. Eclipse or other IDEs are not.

Another good test is which debugger they prefer. Passing answers are gdb or the debugger in llvm. Any IDE is not.

You can't be serious, LOL.... Any CS students who do not use vi or emacs editor doesn't deserve to continue the interview.... These days Linux OS is everywhere, and vi/emacs is included as default.

Actually anyone who uses vi or emacs would be flagged as old and outdated and would need to learn how to use vscode and the debugger.

Anonymous wrote:There is no difference in prestige or education between UMD and VTech. If it were an ivy and VTech that would be a difference.

Anonymous wrote:I am a tech recruiter for F100 companies, and I am seeing a glut of '24 and '25 CS grads looking for work. A lot of these grads comes from UVA, VATech, UNC, Pitt, Ivies, etc... There was an open position last week, and I received over 1000 resumes. Of that, about 30% passed the initial screen. It is a tough time for CS major.

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Anonymous wrote:PP again. We have a simple test which has a 75% success rate as a filter. We ask which editor the candidate prefers. Either vi or emacs are passing answers. Eclipse or other IDEs are not.

Another good test is which debugger they prefer. Passing answers are gdb or the debugger in llvm. Any IDE is not.

You can't be serious, LOL.... Any CS students who do not use vi or emacs editor doesn't deserve to continue the interview.... These days Linux OS is everywhere, and vi/emacs is included as default.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a tech recruiter for F100 companies, and I am seeing a glut of '24 and '25 CS grads looking for work. A lot of these grads comes from UVA, VATech, UNC, Pitt, Ivies, etc... There was an open position last week, and I received over 1000 resumes. Of that, about 30% passed the initial screen. It is a tough time for CS major.

Is that a permanent shift or cyclical?

Anonymous wrote:I am a tech recruiter for F100 companies, and I am seeing a glut of '24 and '25 CS grads looking for work. A lot of these grads comes from UVA, VATech, UNC, Pitt, Ivies, etc... There was an open position last week, and I received over 1000 resumes. Of that, about 30% passed the initial screen. It is a tough time for CS major.

Anonymous wrote:DD is deciding between these 2 schools for computer science

UMD OOS 46K (tuition and room and board)
VT IS we have a prepaid 529 so cost is only R&B (16K)

DD really has no preference for campus and can see herself being happy in either. An advantage for UMD is it's less than 1 hour drive away vs VT being 4 hours away and she would prefer being close to home. As parents, we worry a bit about safety at UMD since it is in PG county (is it a valid worry or are we being paranoid?)

We can afford the higher cost but really wondering if the extra cost is worth it. We know UMD is better ranked than VT in CS, but is the outcome (recruitment, jobs upon graduation,...) so different that it warrants an extra 120K?

Anonymous wrote:I am a tech recruiter for F100 companies, and I am seeing a glut of '24 and '25 CS grads looking for work. A lot of these grads comes from UVA, VATech, UNC, Pitt, Ivies, etc... There was an open position last week, and I received over 1000 resumes. Of that, about 30% passed the initial screen. It is a tough time for CS major.

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Students at CMU or any college where they are taking heavy theoretical computer science courses are the ones who are going to be working on core engineering problems at FAANG and starting/joining other startups. These skills are going to last their lifetime.

Hiring manager here. Above is untrue in our experience and to be very clear we work on challenging core engineering problems in my group.

What DOES matter is which upper level electives the student takes. Students who take the harder classes like Compilers, OS internals/kernel programming, real-time systems, embedded systems, Verilog/vhdl, C programming (not Java or C++ or Python or web programming) are the ones who have long term skills -- WITHOUT regard to the specific school or to the so-called prestige or rank of the school.

CS or ComputerE grads who took hard upper level courses outlined above and got a B or better in those courses (no need for an A) are perpetually in shortage, get paid better as a result of the shortage, and are best prepared for lifetime career success.

Those who focus on easier web or cloud or computer gaming classes will have less interesting work, lower lifetime income, and are plentiful.

Up thread some IT hiring manager said all you need is a certificate in cloud, like AWS, and you can get a job. But, I guess it's a low paying one.

I have an AWS solution architect certification and a CS degree from Virginia Tech, and I am making 275K/yr with 75K in annual bonus three years after graduation. I guess you can say my job is a low paying one. SMH.

Anonymous wrote:DD is deciding between these 2 schools for computer science

UMD OOS 46K (tuition and room and board)
VT IS we have a prepaid 529 so cost is only R&B (16K)

DD really has no preference for campus and can see herself being happy in either. An advantage for UMD is it's less than 1 hour drive away vs VT being 4 hours away and she would prefer being close to home. As parents, we worry a bit about safety at UMD since it is in PG county (is it a valid worry or are we being paranoid?)

We can afford the higher cost but really wondering if the extra cost is worth it. We know UMD is better ranked than VT in CS, but is the outcome (recruitment, jobs upon graduation,...) so different that it warrants an extra 120K?

Anonymous wrote:VT grad that now lives in MD with dS going to UMD.

I thought VT had less options for computer students. Say if you decide it's too difficult or you're not interested in the major, then there are other options at UMD.

My DS will be going in with a different major. If you're not a computer person, then you may not realize that you don't need to do CS to do computer work. Actually, there's a glut of CS workers.

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Students at CMU or any college where they are taking heavy theoretical computer science courses are the ones who are going to be working on core engineering problems at FAANG and starting/joining other startups. These skills are going to last their lifetime.

Hiring manager here. Above is untrue in our experience and to be very clear we work on challenging core engineering problems in my group.

What DOES matter is which upper level electives the student takes. Students who take the harder classes like Compilers, OS internals/kernel programming, real-time systems, embedded systems, Verilog/vhdl, C programming (not Java or C++ or Python or web programming) are the ones who have long term skills -- WITHOUT regard to the specific school or to the so-called prestige or rank of the school.

CS or ComputerE grads who took hard upper level courses outlined above and got a B or better in those courses (no need for an A) are perpetually in shortage, get paid better as a result of the shortage, and are best prepared for lifetime career success.

Those who focus on easier web or cloud or computer gaming classes will have less interesting work, lower lifetime income, and are plentiful.

Up thread some IT hiring manager said all you need is a certificate in cloud, like AWS, and you can get a job. But, I guess it's a low paying one.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Students at CMU or any college where they are taking heavy theoretical computer science courses are the ones who are going to be working on core engineering problems at FAANG and starting/joining other startups. These skills are going to last their lifetime.

Hiring manager here. Above is untrue in our experience and to be very clear we work on challenging core engineering problems in my group.

What DOES matter is which upper level electives the student takes. Students who take the harder classes like Compilers, OS internals/kernel programming, real-time systems, embedded systems, Verilog/vhdl, C programming (not Java or C++ or Python or web programming) are the ones who have long term skills -- WITHOUT regard to the specific school or to the so-called prestige or rank of the school.

CS or ComputerE grads who took hard upper level courses outlined above and got a B or better in those courses (no need for an A) are perpetually in shortage, get paid better as a result of the shortage, and are best prepared for lifetime career success.

Those who focus on easier web or cloud or computer gaming classes will have less interesting work, lower lifetime income, and are plentiful.