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Anonymous wrote:OP back. I appreciate the ideas. A front yard fence is not an option in our neighborhood. All of the front yards are open, connect, and serve as communal play areas for the kids, which has been very idyllic.

I'm harboring hope that maybe the neighbors are reconsidering the adoption. They've only had the dog for a week. Even the father struggles to control it when walking it on leash. I suspect they are realizing that they may have bitten off more than they can chew, and hope they may return it for a more suitable pet for their own family and our neighborhood in general. There would certainly be no shame in doing so.

np Dogs in shelters need time to decompress. If they were living in a shelter for some time it will take time to not be stressed. Many dog owners can struggle and feel overwhelmed but, with time and training most can overcome.

This isn't really your business and you are judging a dog who really hasn't done anything. Feel free to keep away but, please don't harass your neighbor.

I hope they keep the dog and it naturally adjusts to their new life.

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Thank you for making the connection between the anti-pit bullies and the anti-"woke" magats so perfectly clear.

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Anonymous wrote:I would recommend concealed carry whenever the dog is outside. Those neighbors are awful. You need to be able to quickly protect your children from a large, untrained, nervous Pit Bull.

+1. But it doesn’t matter if it’s perfectly trained or not, their brains turn to mush as they age (think CTE or Alzheimer’s) and even the “sweetest” pit bulls can and do randomly snap and go on a rampage. Whether it’s a random kid, the owner, elderly family member, or someone else’s pet is the prey instinct triggering victim is anyone’s guess.

Oh, good lord... What a hideously ignorant, nonsensical thing to say.

Cite anything credible to back this claim.

You’ve never heard a pit bull owner whose dog just killed something “he was the sweetest boy, we don’t know what happened”? What happened is their brain decays—just like elderly humans—and they snap, regressing to the savage murderous beast they were mated to be. And when they have killer teeth and jaws, they kill when they snap. If a frenchie snaps it can’t hurt a fly.

Oh? https://people.com/crime/woman-killed-by-french-bulldog/

A 55 lb Frenchie & you think this is really the breed they are calling it?

If every dog with a drop of pit is a "pit bull" then yes, that's a frenchie. I don't make the rules.

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Anonymous wrote:I would recommend concealed carry whenever the dog is outside. Those neighbors are awful. You need to be able to quickly protect your children from a large, untrained, nervous Pit Bull.

+1. But it doesn’t matter if it’s perfectly trained or not, their brains turn to mush as they age (think CTE or Alzheimer’s) and even the “sweetest” pit bulls can and do randomly snap and go on a rampage. Whether it’s a random kid, the owner, elderly family member, or someone else’s pet is the prey instinct triggering victim is anyone’s guess.

Oh, good lord... What a hideously ignorant, nonsensical thing to say.

Cite anything credible to back this claim.

You’ve never heard a pit bull owner whose dog just killed something “he was the sweetest boy, we don’t know what happened”? What happened is their brain decays—just like elderly humans—and they snap, regressing to the savage murderous beast they were mated to be. And when they have killer teeth and jaws, they kill when they snap. If a frenchie snaps it can’t hurt a fly.

Oh? https://people.com/crime/woman-killed-by-french-bulldog/

A 55 lb Frenchie & you think this is really the breed they are calling it?

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Anonymous wrote:I would recommend concealed carry whenever the dog is outside. Those neighbors are awful. You need to be able to quickly protect your children from a large, untrained, nervous Pit Bull.

+1. But it doesn’t matter if it’s perfectly trained or not, their brains turn to mush as they age (think CTE or Alzheimer’s) and even the “sweetest” pit bulls can and do randomly snap and go on a rampage. Whether it’s a random kid, the owner, elderly family member, or someone else’s pet is the prey instinct triggering victim is anyone’s guess.

Oh, good lord... What a hideously ignorant, nonsensical thing to say.

Cite anything credible to back this claim.

You’ve never heard a pit bull owner whose dog just killed something “he was the sweetest boy, we don’t know what happened”? What happened is their brain decays—just like elderly humans—and they snap, regressing to the savage murderous beast they were mated to be. And when they have killer teeth and jaws, they kill when they snap. If a frenchie snaps it can’t hurt a fly.

Oh? https://people.com/crime/woman-killed-by-french-bulldog/

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Anonymous wrote:I foster and train very young puppies for a rescue. Pitbulls, taken early, can be trained to be just as safe as other breeds.

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This one growled at you. That is incredibly concerning, OP. You must contact the neighbor and tell them that on no account must this dog enter your property and go near you or your children. He's 5, so it's going to be very difficult to train him out of his habits.

Get a camera, just in case something happens that you need to document. I'm sorry this is happening to you.

I would rather have a dog growl at me than just go and bite me for no reason! Of course, tell the neighbor what you said but, honestly the op invited the dog over. I can't imagine the dog owner would want to be near op since their dog didn't like op!

PP you replied to. No dog should ever growl at a person, period. I have a dog-aggressive northern breed that we keep a very close eye on and leash at all times, and he loves all humans - he would never even think of growling at a person. It sounds like these dog-owners are clueless so OP needs to tell them directly that this dog should be kept away from them at all costs.

Sure, have the owner keep the dog away. But, honestly some dogs do not like certain humans. Is it ideal? No, but, a growl is a warning which should not be punished. It is the way the dog communicated. Something op did that made the dog uncomfortable. My dog doesn't like kids and I can't train it out of him. That does not make me 'clueless' but, then again I don't put my dog in situations where there are lots of kids. Remember, the op invited the dog into their space. Perhaps the neighbor should have said no because the dog needs to adjust to being out of the shelter.

Point is the dog hasn't really done anything and op is perfectly within her rights to stay away.

You know what? It doesn’t matter if OP invited the dog over or not.

If you own a dog that can’t handle being around people, then it’s YOUR responsibility to keep it away from people. Period.

It’s downright irresponsible to send the dog out practically unsupervised with a teen who can’t control the animal.

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Anonymous wrote:I foster and train very young puppies for a rescue. Pitbulls, taken early, can be trained to be just as safe as other breeds.

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This one growled at you. That is incredibly concerning, OP. You must contact the neighbor and tell them that on no account must this dog enter your property and go near you or your children. He's 5, so it's going to be very difficult to train him out of his habits.

Get a camera, just in case something happens that you need to document. I'm sorry this is happening to you.

I would rather have a dog growl at me than just go and bite me for no reason! Of course, tell the neighbor what you said but, honestly the op invited the dog over. I can't imagine the dog owner would want to be near op since their dog didn't like op!

PP you replied to. No dog should ever growl at a person, period. I have a dog-aggressive northern breed that we keep a very close eye on and leash at all times, and he loves all humans - he would never even think of growling at a person. It sounds like these dog-owners are clueless so OP needs to tell them directly that this dog should be kept away from them at all costs.

Sure, have the owner keep the dog away. But, honestly some dogs do not like certain humans. Is it ideal? No, but, a growl is a warning which should not be punished. It is the way the dog communicated. Something op did that made the dog uncomfortable. My dog doesn't like kids and I can't train it out of him. That does not make me 'clueless' but, then again I don't put my dog in situations where there are lots of kids. Remember, the op invited the dog into their space. Perhaps the neighbor should have said no because the dog needs to adjust to being out of the shelter.

Point is the dog hasn't really done anything and op is perfectly within her rights to stay away.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get why you'd need to talk to the owner at all, just don't invite the dog onto your property anymore. Tell your kids they are not to approach or play with the dog. There is a pit pull that lives two houses down from me. I have never been close enough for that dog to growl at me. A new neighbor just moved in directly across the street, and they have a pit. I will not be inviting that dog to my yard to meet my kids or any of that. Keep your dog off my property and we are good!

Get a fence. Dogs growl for all kinds or reasons. Ours has different growls to let us know what she wants.

This is absolutely unhinged. If your dog has gone all the way to growling to communicate, it's because you missed the first eleven signals it gave your dumb ass.

I'm not the person you quoted but that poster is correct. There are many reasons dogs growl. My poodle growls when we play tug of war with him. He used to attention growl; (he would sit next to me and stare and growl). I trained him to stop growling at me, so now he just sits and gives me the death stare. lol A dog will also growl if he is in pain or resource guarding.

Clowny, I've been training dogs for decades. While a growl is a last-resort communication, it's never the first signal, and only necessary when the human responsible for the animal doesn't know what they're doing. Well-trained dogs don't growl at people, largely because their well-educate handlers never put them in situations where the dog feels compelled to growl. Pain and resource guarding also have primary and secondary signals, long before it gets to growling.

A growling animal is either in truly dire circumstances or poorly trained/handled. Period.

I'll believe my own vet and my own dog trainer over some bozo on the internet. But thanks anyway.

My dog growls at kids when we ate in the csr snd they walk by. I suspect when he was fostered the kids were not gentile with him. Got hom over covid so didn't have positive experiences. I can't yrain it out of him so we avoid most popular places with kids

My dog growls for attention and to try to get pets. Dogs growl for different reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:I would recommend concealed carry whenever the dog is outside. Those neighbors are awful. You need to be able to quickly protect your children from a large, untrained, nervous Pit Bull.

+1. But it doesn’t matter if it’s perfectly trained or not, their brains turn to mush as they age (think CTE or Alzheimer’s) and even the “sweetest” pit bulls can and do randomly snap and go on a rampage. Whether it’s a random kid, the owner, elderly family member, or someone else’s pet is the prey instinct triggering victim is anyone’s guess.

Oh, good lord... What a hideously ignorant, nonsensical thing to say.

Cite anything credible to back this claim.

You’ve never heard a pit bull owner whose dog just killed something “he was the sweetest boy, we don’t know what happened”? What happened is their brain decays—just like elderly humans—and they snap, regressing to the savage murderous beast they were mated to be. And when they have killer teeth and jaws, they kill when they snap. If a frenchie snaps it can’t hurt a fly.

Oh? https://people.com/crime/woman-killed-by-french-bulldog/

lol. You didn’t even read the article. She was murdered by a backyard PIT BULL hybrid Frankenstein they lied and claimed was a “French”. They lie about the breed because some towns, apartments, landlords, and insurance carriers won’t allow pit bulls. Her PIT BULL snapped and murdered her.

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Anonymous wrote:I would recommend concealed carry whenever the dog is outside. Those neighbors are awful. You need to be able to quickly protect your children from a large, untrained, nervous Pit Bull.

+1. But it doesn’t matter if it’s perfectly trained or not, their brains turn to mush as they age (think CTE or Alzheimer’s) and even the “sweetest” pit bulls can and do randomly snap and go on a rampage. Whether it’s a random kid, the owner, elderly family member, or someone else’s pet the prey instinct triggering victim is anyone’s guess.

Oh, good lord... What a hideously ignorant, nonsensical thing to say.

Cite anything credible to back this claim.

I’m not citing anything. You morons adopt these land sharks and delude yourself that you can control them or predict their behavior. I’ve never seen a beagle or golden randomly snap and murder animals and kids. That’s what pit bulls do all the time.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132912/Horror-family-dog-kills-dismembers-month-old-baby-father-slept.html

And beagles are some of the mouthiest little jerks I've ever known! https://lovingbeagle.com/why-do-beagles-bite-so-much/

Using inflammatory rhetoric and calling them names like "land sharks" just illustrates that you have no stand-alone point to make. You anti-pit bullies never do. It's always regurgitated nonsense you got from some clickbait. You are the Fox News of the canine world.

Np. That story is 13 years old. You gotta dig pretty far back to find your examples. But anyway, look at that ‘golden’. It is clearly a pit mix!!!

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Anonymous wrote:I would recommend concealed carry whenever the dog is outside. Those neighbors are awful. You need to be able to quickly protect your children from a large, untrained, nervous Pit Bull.

+1. But it doesn’t matter if it’s perfectly trained or not, their brains turn to mush as they age (think CTE or Alzheimer’s) and even the “sweetest” pit bulls can and do randomly snap and go on a rampage. Whether it’s a random kid, the owner, elderly family member, or someone else’s pet the prey instinct triggering victim is anyone’s guess.

Oh, good lord... What a hideously ignorant, nonsensical thing to say.

Cite anything credible to back this claim.

I’m not citing anything. You morons adopt these land sharks and delude yourself that you can control them or predict their behavior. I’ve never seen a beagle or golden randomly snap and murder animals and kids. That’s what pit bulls do all the time.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132912/Horror-family-dog-kills-dismembers-month-old-baby-father-slept.html

And beagles are some of the mouthiest little jerks I've ever known! https://lovingbeagle.com/why-do-beagles-bite-so-much/

Using inflammatory rhetoric and calling them names like "land sharks" just illustrates that you have no stand-alone point to make. You anti-pit bullies never do. It's always regurgitated nonsense you got from some clickbait. You are the Fox News of the canine world.

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Anonymous wrote:I would recommend concealed carry whenever the dog is outside. Those neighbors are awful. You need to be able to quickly protect your children from a large, untrained, nervous Pit Bull.

+1. But it doesn’t matter if it’s perfectly trained or not, their brains turn to mush as they age (think CTE or Alzheimer’s) and even the “sweetest” pit bulls can and do randomly snap and go on a rampage. Whether it’s a random kid, the owner, elderly family member, or someone else’s pet is the prey instinct triggering victim is anyone’s guess.

Oh, good lord... What a hideously ignorant, nonsensical thing to say.

Cite anything credible to back this claim.

You’ve never heard a pit bull owner whose dog just killed something “he was the sweetest boy, we don’t know what happened”? What happened is their brain decays—just like elderly humans—and they snap, regressing to the savage murderous beast they were mated to be. And when they have killer teeth and jaws, they kill when they snap. If a frenchie snaps it can’t hurt a fly.

Oh? https://people.com/crime/woman-killed-by-french-bulldog/

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get why you'd need to talk to the owner at all, just don't invite the dog onto your property anymore. Tell your kids they are not to approach or play with the dog. There is a pit pull that lives two houses down from me. I have never been close enough for that dog to growl at me. A new neighbor just moved in directly across the street, and they have a pit. I will not be inviting that dog to my yard to meet my kids or any of that. Keep your dog off my property and we are good!

Get a fence. Dogs growl for all kinds or reasons. Ours has different growls to let us know what she wants.

This is absolutely unhinged. If your dog has gone all the way to growling to communicate, it's because you missed the first eleven signals it gave your dumb ass.

I'm not the person you quoted but that poster is correct. There are many reasons dogs growl. My poodle growls when we play tug of war with him. He used to attention growl; (he would sit next to me and stare and growl). I trained him to stop growling at me, so now he just sits and gives me the death stare. lol A dog will also growl if he is in pain or resource guarding.

Clowny, I've been training dogs for decades. While a growl is a last-resort communication, it's never the first signal, and only necessary when the human responsible for the animal doesn't know what they're doing. Well-trained dogs don't growl at people, largely because their well-educate handlers never put them in situations where the dog feels compelled to growl. Pain and resource guarding also have primary and secondary signals, long before it gets to growling.

A growling animal is either in truly dire circumstances or poorly trained/handled. Period.

I'll believe my own vet and my own dog trainer over some bozo on the internet. But thanks anyway.

My dog growls at kids when we ate in the csr snd they walk by. I suspect when he was fostered the kids were not gentile with him. Got hom over covid so didn't have positive experiences. I can't yrain it out of him so we avoid most popular places with kids