Anonymous wrote:I wish I could be as optimistic as you - but the polls are still highly supportive.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the Idaho video, it’s disturbing and disgusting and shows that this is no longer a democracy. The speaker mocks the woman and tells the audience their voices are meaningless while unidentified men break out zip ties and assault her.

https://fb.watch/xX6RjQ-d_y/?mibextid=z4kJoQ

Bad link, this one should work. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BiuzYNjU2/

This is the Gestapo. OMG. What is happening to this country. This is just the beginning

In case you’re interested, here is a longer version from a different angle. People were trying to help and were actively blocked by others. It’s truly upsetting.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wnBHQyUZiws

WOW.....ladies have we had enough yet?? This is atrocious how he is speaking to her. "little girl" ?? What happened to free speech.

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Anonymous wrote:Every thread on here confirms that we Democrats don't believe that our popularity has ebbed much since 2008.

We can't learn, and we can't change, so we've pinned our hopes on...Trump becoming unpopular?

He beat the Bushes, he beat the Clintons, he beat the Bidens. He set records for most votes ever gotten by any Republican Presidential candidate in history in both 2020 and 2024. But surely the American people will soon embrace the disliked Democrats out of...anti-Trumpism?

No. Dems need to weaponize the discontent they way the GOP does. We have to out-propaganda them. It's unsavory, but true.

+1 politics of today

That's absolutely right. Being civil and trying to take the high road has gotten Democrats nowhere.

Please, there has been nothing of the "high road" in the last 4 years, it was a rollercoaster of extremes that were not solving any of the real problems facing majority of Americans. And the "nazi" hysteria is the Dem's version of the right wing "satanic panic"

Sure....go put your oversized crucifix on and pretend you are a good little christian.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the Idaho video, it’s disturbing and disgusting and shows that this is no longer a democracy. The speaker mocks the woman and tells the audience their voices are meaningless while unidentified men break out zip ties and assault her.

https://fb.watch/xX6RjQ-d_y/?mibextid=z4kJoQ

Bad link, this one should work. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BiuzYNjU2/

This is the Gestapo. OMG. What is happening to this country. This is just the beginning

In case you’re interested, here is a longer version from a different angle. People were trying to help and were actively blocked by others. It’s truly upsetting.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wnBHQyUZiws

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Anonymous wrote:Every thread on here confirms that we Democrats don't believe that our popularity has ebbed much since 2008.

We can't learn, and we can't change, so we've pinned our hopes on...Trump becoming unpopular?

He beat the Bushes, he beat the Clintons, he beat the Bidens. He set records for most votes ever gotten by any Republican Presidential candidate in history in both 2020 and 2024. But surely the American people will soon embrace the disliked Democrats out of...anti-Trumpism?

No. Dems need to weaponize the discontent they way the GOP does. We have to out-propaganda them. It's unsavory, but true.

+1 politics of today

That's absolutely right. Being civil and trying to take the high road has gotten Democrats nowhere.

Please, there has been nothing of the "high road" in the last 4 years, it was a rollercoaster of extremes that were not solving any of the real problems facing majority of Americans. And the "nazi" hysteria is the Dem's version of the right wing "satanic panic"

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats will win with the message “Back to the Middle”! They’re not going to win the fight against right extremism by being left extremism. Frankly(as shon in the last election) right extremism is slightly more palatable to independants/middlers than left extremism. To win them back and gain ground with more liberal republicans, Democrats need to move Back to the Middle. Be the party of common sense responsible government.

Just because you love fascism doesn’t mean that centrist democrats heed to court them.

What is the definition of crazy? Doing the same things over and over expecting…?

The American people having been telling democrats for years that they’re not onboard with the far left agenda. They don’t want trans women in women’s sports. While they support a women’s right to choose, they agree with some limits on abortion. They think Affirmative Action should be ending soon. They want schools focused on reading and math and not trying to push social agenda issues. They hate paper straws . But democrats are betting that if they court the <25% of far left liberals, then other democrats/ independents will fall in line. They are losing that bet.

Instead, middlers find the far left so unpalatable that they’ll reason “I’m not voting for the man, I’m voting for the platform”. In a way, democrats are partly responsible for Trump’s re-election because they refuse to listen to the 50% of the nation in the middle. If they start to court the middle, most from the far left will fall in line.

But if y'all keep pretending to be blind and continue dismissing the middle, you will continue to lose. Enjoy your confused expression on election night.

Back to the Middle!

No.....this was an extremely close race and I still wonder if someone's money didn't help this election.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats will win with the message “Back to the Middle”! They’re not going to win the fight against right extremism by being left extremism. Frankly(as shon in the last election) right extremism is slightly more palatable to independants/middlers than left extremism. To win them back and gain ground with more liberal republicans, Democrats need to move Back to the Middle. Be the party of common sense responsible government.

Just because you love fascism doesn’t mean that centrist democrats heed to court them.

What is the definition of crazy? Doing the same things over and over expecting…?

The American people having been telling democrats for years that they’re not onboard with the far left agenda. They don’t want trans women in women’s sports. While they support a women’s right to choose, they agree with some limits on abortion. They think Affirmative Action should be ending soon. They want schools focused on reading and math and not trying to push social agenda issues. They hate paper straws . But democrats are betting that if they court the <25% of far left liberals, then other democrats/ independents will fall in line. They are losing that bet.

Instead, middlers find the far left so unpalatable that they’ll reason “I’m not voting for the man, I’m voting for the platform”. In a way, democrats are partly responsible for Trump’s re-election because they refuse to listen to the 50% of the nation in the middle. If they start to court the middle, most from the far left will fall in line.

But if y'all keep pretending to be blind and continue dismissing the middle, you will continue to lose. Enjoy your confused expression on election night.

Back to the Middle!

Couldn't have said it better. There were so much focus on issues that were not life changing for vast majority of people that it created problems of their own. Solutions created problems and division in society. This division didn't sit well with moderates who saw complete neglect of their real concerns (cost of living, inflation, stagnant wages, mass layoffs, predatory healthcare system, race to the bottom in education, mass transfer of wealth, feeling insecurity in being able to retire, worry about kid's ability to afford life, not to mention upward mobility, having to invest as a second job just to keep already saved and taxed money, etc, etc).

This was the result of the GOP constantly pushing these issues. If you actually paid attention to policy and you truly are in the middle, you would have voted Dem. You're just bloviating. The GOP propaganda gotcha.

Anonymous wrote:I wish I could be as optimistic as you - but the polls are still highly supportive.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats will win with the message “Back to the Middle”! They’re not going to win the fight against right extremism by being left extremism. Frankly(as shon in the last election) right extremism is slightly more palatable to independants/middlers than left extremism. To win them back and gain ground with more liberal republicans, Democrats need to move Back to the Middle. Be the party of common sense responsible government.

Just because you love fascism doesn’t mean that centrist democrats heed to court them.

What is the definition of crazy? Doing the same things over and over expecting…?

The American people having been telling democrats for years that they’re not onboard with the far left agenda. They don’t want trans women in women’s sports. While they support a women’s right to choose, they agree with some limits on abortion. They think Affirmative Action should be ending soon. They want schools focused on reading and math and not trying to push social agenda issues. They hate paper straws . But democrats are betting that if they court the <25% of far left liberals, then other democrats/ independents will fall in line. They are losing that bet.

Instead, middlers find the far left so unpalatable that they’ll reason “I’m not voting for the man, I’m voting for the platform”. In a way, democrats are partly responsible for Trump’s re-election because they refuse to listen to the 50% of the nation in the middle. If they start to court the middle, most from the far left will fall in line.

But if y'all keep pretending to be blind and continue dismissing the middle, you will continue to lose. Enjoy your confused expression on election night.

Back to the Middle!

No.....this was an extremely close race and I still wonder if someone's money didn't help this election.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats will win with the message “Back to the Middle”! They’re not going to win the fight against right extremism by being left extremism. Frankly(as shon in the last election) right extremism is slightly more palatable to independants/middlers than left extremism. To win them back and gain ground with more liberal republicans, Democrats need to move Back to the Middle. Be the party of common sense responsible government.

Just because you love fascism doesn’t mean that centrist democrats heed to court them.

What is the definition of crazy? Doing the same things over and over expecting…?

The American people having been telling democrats for years that they’re not onboard with the far left agenda. They don’t want trans women in women’s sports. While they support a women’s right to choose, they agree with some limits on abortion. They think Affirmative Action should be ending soon. They want schools focused on reading and math and not trying to push social agenda issues. They hate paper straws . But democrats are betting that if they court the <25% of far left liberals, then other democrats/ independents will fall in line. They are losing that bet.

Instead, middlers find the far left so unpalatable that they’ll reason “I’m not voting for the man, I’m voting for the platform”. In a way, democrats are partly responsible for Trump’s re-election because they refuse to listen to the 50% of the nation in the middle. If they start to court the middle, most from the far left will fall in line.

But if y'all keep pretending to be blind and continue dismissing the middle, you will continue to lose. Enjoy your confused expression on election night.

Back to the Middle!

Couldn't have said it better. There were so much focus on issues that were not life changing for vast majority of people that it created problems of their own. Solutions created problems and division in society. This division didn't sit well with moderates who saw complete neglect of their real concerns (cost of living, inflation, stagnant wages, mass layoffs, predatory healthcare system, race to the bottom in education, mass transfer of wealth, feeling insecurity in being able to retire, worry about kid's ability to afford life, not to mention upward mobility, having to invest as a second job just to keep already saved and taxed money, etc, etc).

This was the result of the GOP constantly pushing these issues. If you actually paid attention to policy and you truly are in the middle, you would have voted Dem. You're just bloviating. The GOP propaganda gotcha.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats will win with the message “Back to the Middle”! They’re not going to win the fight against right extremism by being left extremism. Frankly(as shon in the last election) right extremism is slightly more palatable to independants/middlers than left extremism. To win them back and gain ground with more liberal republicans, Democrats need to move Back to the Middle. Be the party of common sense responsible government.

Just because you love fascism doesn’t mean that centrist democrats heed to court them.

What is the definition of crazy? Doing the same things over and over expecting…?

The American people having been telling democrats for years that they’re not onboard with the far left agenda. They don’t want trans women in women’s sports. While they support a women’s right to choose, they agree with some limits on abortion. They think Affirmative Action should be ending soon. They want schools focused on reading and math and not trying to push social agenda issues. They hate paper straws . But democrats are betting that if they court the <25% of far left liberals, then other democrats/ independents will fall in line. They are losing that bet.

Instead, middlers find the far left so unpalatable that they’ll reason “I’m not voting for the man, I’m voting for the platform”. In a way, democrats are partly responsible for Trump’s re-election because they refuse to listen to the 50% of the nation in the middle. If they start to court the middle, most from the far left will fall in line.

But if y'all keep pretending to be blind and continue dismissing the middle, you will continue to lose. Enjoy your confused expression on election night.

Back to the Middle!

No.....this was an extremely close race and I still wonder if someone's money didn't help this election.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the Idaho video, it’s disturbing and disgusting and shows that this is no longer a democracy. The speaker mocks the woman and tells the audience their voices are meaningless while unidentified men break out zip ties and assault her.

https://fb.watch/xX6RjQ-d_y/?mibextid=z4kJoQ

Bad link, this one should work. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BiuzYNjU2/

When will Americans stop sitting politely and watching all of this unfold? We just sit and allow unidentified men accountable to no one drag off a citizen for speaking their disagreement at a town hall? Why didn't anyone else help her?

I’m an older woman and I am furious at what I saw in the video! First, why didn’t anyone stand up and help the woman who was being dragged out?!!! She wasn’t the only one yelling out things and she didn’t say anything terrible. Who were the guys that dragged her out and why did they come prepared with zip ties?! This is assault. If they were LEO on duty, they should have worn uniforms or shown their badges. MAgA are straight up thugs.

Oh stop it Lib. That woman was RUDE. She showed no respect for the speakers on stage and deserved to get mocked and booted out. I wish the security guy had just put her in a headlock and dragged her out of there. Idaho judges would have thrown out her lawsuit because she’s just so obnoxious.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Democrats will win with the message “Back to the Middle”! They’re not going to win the fight against right extremism by being left extremism. Frankly(as shon in the last election) right extremism is slightly more palatable to independants/middlers than left extremism. To win them back and gain ground with more liberal republicans, Democrats need to move Back to the Middle. Be the party of common sense responsible government.

Just because you love fascism doesn’t mean that centrist democrats heed to court them.

What is the definition of crazy? Doing the same things over and over expecting…?

The American people having been telling democrats for years that they’re not onboard with the far left agenda. They don’t want trans women in women’s sports. While they support a women’s right to choose, they agree with some limits on abortion. They think Affirmative Action should be ending soon. They want schools focused on reading and math and not trying to push social agenda issues. They hate paper straws . But democrats are betting that if they court the <25% of far left liberals, then other democrats/ independents will fall in line. They are losing that bet.

Instead, middlers find the far left so unpalatable that they’ll reason “I’m not voting for the man, I’m voting for the platform”. In a way, democrats are partly responsible for Trump’s re-election because they refuse to listen to the 50% of the nation in the middle. If they start to court the middle, most from the far left will fall in line.

But if y'all keep pretending to be blind and continue dismissing the middle, you will continue to lose. Enjoy your confused expression on election night.

Back to the Middle!

Couldn't have said it better. There were so much focus on issues that were not life changing for vast majority of people that it created problems of their own. Solutions created problems and division in society. This division didn't sit well with moderates who saw complete neglect of their real concerns (cost of living, inflation, stagnant wages, mass layoffs, predatory healthcare system, race to the bottom in education, mass transfer of wealth, feeling insecurity in being able to retire, worry about kid's ability to afford life, not to mention upward mobility, having to invest as a second job just to keep already saved and taxed money, etc, etc).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the Idaho video, it’s disturbing and disgusting and shows that this is no longer a democracy. The speaker mocks the woman and tells the audience their voices are meaningless while unidentified men break out zip ties and assault her.

https://fb.watch/xX6RjQ-d_y/?mibextid=z4kJoQ

Bad link, this one should work. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BiuzYNjU2/

When will Americans stop sitting politely and watching all of this unfold? We just sit and allow unidentified men accountable to no one drag off a citizen for speaking their disagreement at a town hall? Why didn't anyone else help her?

I’m an older woman and I am furious at what I saw in the video! First, why didn’t anyone stand up and help the woman who was being dragged out?!!! She wasn’t the only one yelling out things and she didn’t say anything terrible. Who were the guys that dragged her out and why did they come prepared with zip ties?! This is assault. If they were LEO on duty, they should have worn uniforms or shown their badges. MAgA are straight up thugs.

Oh stop it Lib. That woman was RUDE. She showed no respect for the speakers on stage and deserved to get mocked and booted out. I wish the security guy had just put her in a headlock and dragged her out of there. Idaho judges would have thrown out her lawsuit because she’s just so obnoxious.