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Anonymous wrote:Frankly I would have thought SS one of the government programs with the least fraud. The most? They have extensive documentation of all our payments over our lives. probably agriculture or infrastructure projects for states, like the famous bridge to nowhere in Alaska.

But Musk loves to just spout garbage without first thinking for even a moment, or doing a simple google.

My understanding is the biggest part of entitlement fraud is unwarranted disability payments. The solution would obviously be some kind of traveling component of SSA that would spot check recipients and look for doctors that have unusually high numbers of patients qualifying. But then you’d have to hire more Feds and provide them a budget.

WV will be in trouble.

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Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

It is legit, but he doesn't know how to go after fraud. He doesn't understand the systems, how the programs work, etc. His 20 year old kids really don't have a clue.

MAGA is about to learn that Musk thinks every federal dollar that doesn’t go into his pocket is waste, fraud, and abuse

Did you know that your employer paid half of your SS inputs? Well, that’s a hit to Musk’s bottom line. He didn’t become the world’s richest trust fund baby by being generous. He wants your SS contributions, he wants your tax dollars, he wants your spending, he wants your attention, and he wants your labor dirt cheap.

Anything spent on you, and not by you, is waste to him and his billionaire friends. YOU are waste. And you are quickly alienating anyone who is in a position to care.

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Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

How is SS entitlement? We literally pay into it over many, many years?

Yet another dumba$$ who has no idea of how our government works. ^^

Oh please do explain to me how it works!

Seriously. The nerve of this guy. Some people have dedicated their whole lives to serving the public, but sure, Elon Musk and his posse of teens can waltz in and understand all of it better than anyone else in ten minutes. The arrogance and narcissism is so incredibly toxic.

Plus they think they can use AI to magically summarize the work of an entire agency and all its impacts and decide what to cut when AI can't even properly apply PEMDAS to a basic math question and makes up answers and false citations.

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Anonymous wrote:I voted for Kamala and I think what Musk is doing is illegal, traitorous, evil, etc etc. But we also have to have a serious talk about the future of social security and Medicare in this country. As it is it is simply not sustainable. When it was conceived people didn't live 30 years in retirement. We have a dwindling population and trillions in debt. I don't want to saddle my children with government debt we have to print our way out of.

I'm 38 and never assumed I would be able to collect social security when the time comes and I think millennials and younger gen x need to make peace with this.

We are 60 and were told in high school we would never see a Social Security check. You aren't the first generation to be told this, just the latest.

Right. So people should plan accordingly.

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Anonymous wrote:I voted for Kamala and I think what Musk is doing is illegal, traitorous, evil, etc etc. But we also have to have a serious talk about the future of social security and Medicare in this country. As it is it is simply not sustainable. When it was conceived people didn't live 30 years in retirement. We have a dwindling population and trillions in debt. I don't want to saddle my children with government debt we have to print our way out of.

I'm 38 and never assumed I would be able to collect social security when the time comes and I think millennials and younger gen x need to make peace with this.

I’m just going to state the obvious- you expropriate Musk’s fortune, we’re good for another generation. At this point, you can’t convince me it’s not 100% ill gotten gains. Take it from him and none of us have to spend our elder years eating dog food.

LOL! How is that any different than taking your money and providing it to less fortunate than you? Would you like that?

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Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

why do you like fraud, and why do you consider yourself 'entitled' to it?

This is the type of gaslighting that Musk is currently using. Congrats on being used.

Anonymous wrote:I voted for Kamala and I think what Musk is doing is illegal, traitorous, evil, etc etc. But we also have to have a serious talk about the future of social security and Medicare in this country. As it is it is simply not sustainable. When it was conceived people didn't live 30 years in retirement. We have a dwindling population and trillions in debt. I don't want to saddle my children with government debt we have to print our way out of.

I'm 38 and never assumed I would be able to collect social security when the time comes and I think millennials and younger gen x need to make peace with this.

I’m just going to state the obvious- you expropriate Musk’s fortune, we’re good for another generation. At this point, you can’t convince me it’s not 100% ill gotten gains. Take it from him and none of us have to spend our elder years eating dog food.

If we don't check fraud now then there won't be a SS or Medicare in the future. This is good.

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Anonymous wrote:its says FRAUD, this forum is deranged

+100 Deranged and stupid

Once again, Musk is not going after fraud. He's just throwing more spaghetti at the wall and trying to manipulate people who don't understand the government.

Exactly. He sees a name of program he doesn’t like and scream fraud. Even if it is legit and went through the official govt process. Fraud means to Trump something he doesnt like.

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Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

why do you like fraud, and why do you consider yourself 'entitled' to it?

Wow, you are a simple one, aren’t you? You know, he will come for bootlicker’s entitlements too.

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Anonymous wrote:its says FRAUD, this forum is deranged

+100 Deranged and stupid

Ok I will play. After all the layoffs, firings, and cut funding…where is the evidence of fraud?

There is zero evidence of fraud so far. Musk has found none. Not a single penny. You're not going to see fraud in payments data. You'll need to do investigations, get into the contracts, communication reviews, site visits, etc. It's extremely time consuming and complex.

Have you seen how many doctors get prosecuted for Medicare fraud every year?

They should lose their license on first confirmed offense AND it should be considered a felony with mandatory prison time. Needs to be serious consequences to deter them from abusing the power.

Are you under the false impression that it isn't?

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/national-health-care-fraud-enforcement-action-results-193-defendants-charged-and-over-275-0

Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

why do you like fraud, and why do you consider yourself 'entitled' to it?

Anonymous wrote:I voted for Kamala and I think what Musk is doing is illegal, traitorous, evil, etc etc. But we also have to have a serious talk about the future of social security and Medicare in this country. As it is it is simply not sustainable. When it was conceived people didn't live 30 years in retirement. We have a dwindling population and trillions in debt. I don't want to saddle my children with government debt we have to print our way out of.

I'm 38 and never assumed I would be able to collect social security when the time comes and I think millennials and younger gen x need to make peace with this.

We are 60 and were told in high school we would never see a Social Security check. You aren't the first generation to be told this, just the latest.

Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

You are saying this to severely disabled adults, many of whom have no family left in the world, orphaned minors, and seniors too old to work anymore.

You are not smart.