Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 12:32     Subject: Pam Bondi wastes no time in creating Constitutional crisis
Anonymous wrote:Leftists are funny. When the pitched affirmative action originally, they admitted what it was. Not anymore. Now they have a new spin.


They have no spine. Ask the Maine Governor, she's become Trumps little B
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 12:31     Subject: Pam Bondi wastes no time in creating Constitutional crisis
Leftists are funny. When the pitched affirmative action originally, they admitted what it was. Not anymore. Now they have a new spin.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 12:17     Subject: Pam Bondi wastes no time in creating Constitutional crisis
Anonymous wrote:We need to make the case to the white working and middle classes that 50 years of affirmative action has NOT affected them at all. They are undereducated about what it really means and how it really works. We just need to improve our messaging. Trump has messed everything up, so now we’ll need to campaign on reinstating affirmative action. That takes more than advocacy, it takes education.


Do you really believe that. This article in Compact published just this week is provocative and evokes the worst fears of DEI efforts. Hard numbers quoted below:

https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-vanishing-white-male-writer/#:~:text=By%202021%2C%20there%20was%20not,featured%20were%20white%20American%20men).

By 2021, there was not one white male millennial on the “Notable Fiction” list. There were none again in 2022, and just one apiece in 2023 and 2024 (since 2021, just 2 of 72 millennials featured were white American men). There were no white male millennials featured in Vulture’s 2024 year-end fiction list, none in Vanity Fair’s, none in The Atlantic’s. Esquire, a magazine ostensibly geared towards male millennials, has featured 53 millennial fiction writers on its year-end book lists since 2020. Only one was a white American man.

Over the course of the 2010s, the literary pipeline for white men was effectively shut down. Between 2001 and 2011, six white men won the New York Public Library’s Young Lions prize for debut fiction. Since 2020, not a single white man has even been nominated (of 25 total nominations). The past decade has seen 70 finalists for the Center for Fiction’s First Novel Prize—with again, not a single straight white American millennial man. Of 14 millennial finalists for the National Book Award during that same time period, exactly zero are white men. The Wallace Stegner Fellowship at Stanford, a launching pad for young writers, currently has zero white male fiction and poetry fellows (of 25 fiction fellows since 2020, just one was a white man). Perhaps most astonishingly, not a single white American man born after 1984 has published a work of literary fiction in The New Yorker (at least 24, and probably closer to 30, younger millennials have been published in total).


Obviously, elite writing does not impact the working class, but numbers like these make it very easy to wonder/spin DEI as exclusionary.

Whole article is worth reading suggesting that some white writers have shifted due to this new “marketplace”.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 10:30     Subject: Pam Bondi wastes no time in creating Constitutional crisis
Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action initiatives more often help less qualified candidates beat out more qualified candidates. That’s just how it is, whether we want to admit it or not.


Got data for that? Because what the data does show is that two resumes with the exact same qualifications, experience, and education and the person with the name that is not clearly white is less likely to get selected. Similarly, women are less likely to get selected for executive roles with the exact same qualifications, experience, and expertise as men.

So again, tell me about “merit” and why affirmative action isn’t needed. Provide that data, please.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 10:26     Subject: Pam Bondi wastes no time in creating Constitutional crisis
Anonymous wrote:Affirmative Action rewards the qualified at the expense of those who put in the hard work and effort of being born to white parents.


Fixed that for you.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 10:23     Subject: Pam Bondi wastes no time in creating Constitutional crisis
Anonymous wrote:Affirmative Action rewards the underqualified at the expense of those who put in the hard work and effort.


Hahahahahahaha!!!! Oh wait, were you serious?
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 10:20     Subject: Pam Bondi wastes no time in creating Constitutional crisis
Affirmative Action rewards the underqualified at the expense of those who put in the hard work and effort.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 10:18     Subject: Pam Bondi wastes no time in creating Constitutional crisis
Anonymous wrote:We need to make the case to the white working and middle classes that 50 years of affirmative action has NOT affected them at all. They are undereducated about what it really means and how it really works. We just need to improve our messaging. Trump has messed everything up, so now we’ll need to campaign on reinstating affirmative action. That takes more than advocacy, it takes education.


But it has. You can’t just show up as a mediocre white guy with a firm handshake and a high school diploma and have a job lording over your social lessers for life. Who do you think is squawking the loudest? Mediocre white guys that can’t compete and missed the fact that the economy changed in the last 70 years.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 09:42     Subject: Pam Bondi wastes no time in creating Constitutional crisis
The problem is that there weren’t enough female tech workers of color to go around. After they were snapped up, companies had to start making some compromises. Usually hiring non-techies into DEI HR roles to run the searches for the missing techies of color. Most of the techies of color will keep their jobs even under the Trumpmonster. It’s the DEI HR professionals who will lose their jobs. And those HR people are actually better Democratic Party activists than techies of color are. This is bad. Without hood salaries, people don’t have the means, the time, ir the energy to work as hard for Democrats.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 09:37     Subject: Pam Bondi wastes no time in creating Constitutional crisis
If a more experiences white engineer gets passed over for a less experienced BIPOC lady, nothing “bad” has happened. She usually brings something to the table that he lacks.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 09:35     Subject: Pam Bondi wastes no time in creating Constitutional crisis
We need to make the case to the white working and middle classes that 50 years of affirmative action has NOT affected them at all. They are undereducated about what it really means and how it really works. We just need to improve our messaging. Trump has messed everything up, so now we’ll need to campaign on reinstating affirmative action. That takes more than advocacy, it takes education.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 09:27     Subject: Pam Bondi wastes no time in creating Constitutional crisis
No, its not ‘just how it is’. Just because you say so doesn’t make it truth. Nepotism, however, does that.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 09:22     Subject: Pam Bondi wastes no time in creating Constitutional crisis
Affirmative action initiatives more often help less qualified candidates beat out more qualified candidates. That’s just how it is, whether we want to admit it or not.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 09:14     Subject: Pam Bondi wastes no time in creating Constitutional crisis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We liberals kind of did this to ourselves. We destroyed freedom of association. We told private corporations, “No, you can’t just hire whoever you want, you have to comply with anti-discrimination laws, etc. And it was good when we could force corporations to hire more Democrats—black folks, LGBTQIA+ folks, etc. But we established the precedent that government could force corporations to hire in certain ways. And technically, affirmative action and DEI ARE illegal discrimination. So now the government legally CAN force companies to cancel all those programs. Based on precedents we set! And the effect will be a lot of laid off Democrats and a lot if rehired Republicans. Which will make voters even more loyal to Trump.


There was no other alternative. People, left to their own devices, will mostly hire people they identify with.


Organizations evolve over time. Forced/accelerated evolution never turns out well.


I mean, it does. That’s what laws are for. Read Freud’s Totem and Taboo.

Do you honestly think the DEI initiatives have not helped some minorities get hired that would have otherwise been shut out of jobs based on their ‘differences’ alone?

The people that claim DEI is not needed, IME, are the ones that would never hire minorities without it.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 09:14     Subject: Pam Bondi wastes no time in creating Constitutional crisis
Indigenous people make the best computer programmers. It’s just a matter of identifying them and connecting them to the right opportunities.