Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.
It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.
Not sure why you consider this DEI.
In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.
Anonymous wrote:Do you have any idea what would happen to the small semblance of peace and stability left not just in this country but the world if the US did not have a strong military? Removing incentives to serve would be a massive leap toward destroying world peace. Comparing that to being hired on the basis of skin color over qualifications is beyond a red herring. Try to practice just a little critical thinking.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.
It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.
Not sure why you consider this DEI.
In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.
Anonymous wrote:No. DEI is generally about immutable characteristics. Being a vet is about your work history. No one is born a vet.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If it gives preference that isn’t based on merit then yes. For example extra points on a civil service exam.
I don't agree. Being a veteran, and receiving an honorable discharge, says something about you. It shows you have what it takes to make it through basic training (not easy), it says you have work ethic and know how to work as a team, it shows you have courage and that you understand chain of command. These are qualities that others may not have or have not proven to have.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because you put yourself in harms way for the nation. A sacrifice was made for others, no matter who. THATS why, average citizen doesn't do squat for the country at that level.Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver platter.
Is this why they AA jet went down? Because someone made a "sacrifice" and that's important than being a qualified for the job they do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.
Really? That's what you think?
You don't think that graduating from Ohio State summa cum laude had anything to do with that?
kAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.
It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.
Not sure why you consider this DEI.
No. When you check the box as a veteran you get preferential treatment. That preference has nothing to do with your ability or qualifications for the job that you applied for. It is a DEI preference.
No silly argument. Any race and members of both genders can become a veteran.
Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.
It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.
Not sure why you consider this DEI.
Huh? What?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because you put yourself in harms way for the nation. A sacrifice was made for others, no matter who. THATS why, average citizen doesn't do squat for the country at that level.Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver platter.
Is this why the AA jet went down? Because someone made a "sacrifice" and that's important than being a qualified for the job they do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.
It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.
Not sure why you consider this DEI.
No. When you check the box as a veteran you get preferential treatment. That preference has nothing to do with your ability or qualifications for the job that you applied for. It is a DEI preference.
It's an earned preference. It's part of the contract you sign when you commit yourself to live and die for your country during the term of your contract.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.
I’ve heard that he also used “economic diversity” because he was from WV
Also geographic diversity. Easier to get into Yale from rural WV, they literally lower the qualifications based solely on geography! That is the opposite of merit.
Once again, he graduated from Ohio State summa cum laude.
That probably had something to do with his acceptance to Yale.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.
It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.
Not sure why you consider this DEI.
No. When you check the box as a veteran you get preferential treatment. That preference has nothing to do with your ability or qualifications for the job that you applied for. It is a DEI preference.
You mean preferential treatment due to a service you provided your country, and not due to the color of your skin or your gender? Oh.
DP
It means people who are LESS QUALIFIED for the job get a leg up.
If they were the best qualified, they wouldn’t need any preferential treatment.
This is false. They have to meet the basic qualifications regardless of their skin color or whatever else. More likely it's a case where, given 20 QUALIFIED applicants, the underrepresented QUALIFIED candidate might get picked in order to actually make the government's demographics look more like America's demographics rather than being completely dominated by white males. DEI does not make qualifications magically go away. Unqualified candidates get screened out long before that.
The narrative that highly qualified and vastly superior white men are being kicked to the curb in order to hire completely unqualified black lesbian dwarves with epilepsy and a missing leg is a lie.