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Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

Read Lord of the Flies to explain the holocaust.

What does Lord of the Flies have to do with an ever lasting God?
-NP

It has to do with how evil comes into the world. Through us.

That doesn't answer the question of why an ever loving God would allow that kind of evil to happen.
Or are you saying God uses human monstrosity to teach us good from evil?

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Anonymous wrote:Santa Claus is a legendary figure who is also known as Saint Nicholas, or St. Nick. The character is based on the life of a 4th century Christian saint who was known for his generosity and charitable acts.

Is God based on an historical figure? Are fairies?

Do you believe in Santa Claus?

Atheists/Anti-theists claim religious people are intolerant and dogmatic, but that's exactly what atheists/anti-theists have become.

They've already written off religion and have certain preconceived notions which will never allow them to sincerely engage in debate.

It’s a waste of time to have a conversation or discussion with atheists and anti-theists like you. You are not engaging in good faith and are intolerant. You don’t have any respect for other people’s beliefs while claiming you are a victim of intolerance.

I am tolerant and asked you simple questions which you didn't answer, and instead said negative things about me which you cannot know and which actually aren't true. I am also formerly religious and was a regular church goer.

I have not claimed I'm a victim of intolerance and wonder if you feel that you are.

Here are my questions again. Perhaps you, or another poster, will answer them this time.

Is God based on an historical figure? Are fairies? Do you believe in Santa Claus?

They never answer direct questions posed on any thread in the religion forum. You will only get some word salad, or better yet, a bible quote that would explain all if you only understood its meaning.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate when there is a near miss and someone says “God wanted you to be safe/saved/etc.”

Did God want other who were not so lucky to die? How callous.

When wondering why God would allow bad things to happen to good people, it’s also good to consider these four things about the bad things that happen:

1) Bad things may happen to good people in this world, but this world is not the end. Christians have an eternal perspective: “We do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal” (2 Corinthians 4:16–18). We will have a reward some day, and it will be glorious.

2) Bad things happen to good people, but God uses those bad things for an ultimate, lasting good. “We know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose” (Romans 8:28). When Joseph, innocent of wrongdoing, finally came through his horrific sufferings, he was able to see God’s good plan in it all (see Genesis 50:19–21).

3) Bad things happen to good people, but those bad things equip believers for deeper ministry. “Praise be to . . . the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God. For just as we share abundantly in the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ” (2 Corinthians 1:3–5). Those with battle scars can better help those going through battles.

4) Bad things happen to good people, and the worst things happened to the best Person. Jesus was the only truly Righteous One, yet He suffered more than we can imagine. We follow in His footsteps: “If you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps. ‘He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth.’ When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly” (1 Peter 2:20–23). Jesus is no stranger to our pain.

https://www.gotquestions.org/bad-things-good-people.html

Christians do not believe that their life on earth is the end. Christians believe that their life on earth is a very tiny part of their life. They believe their eternal life with God is the larger and more important life. Saving someone’s earthly life isn’t as important as saving someone’s eternal life.

You do not have to believe anything. You can believe in whatever you want, or nothing, or anything in between. But there’s a large part of Christianity you either don’t know about or purposely ignore when you rant against God being “callous.”

If you think Christianity is callous, that’s your opinion. For billions of people, it’s salvation.

Tired of hearing long explanations for how "God" allowed awful things to happen? Stop believing -- like how you stopped believing in Santa.

Why is it important to you that I don’t believe in God? How is it any of your business?

You don't believe in God? Good to know. It could mean that you're more tolerant overall - and have given up childish beliefs. Welcome to adulthood.

Sure, all those phDs are so childish. But you are the adult.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

You lost me at, "I believe in ... intelligent design".

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Anonymous wrote:Santa Claus is a legendary figure who is also known as Saint Nicholas, or St. Nick. The character is based on the life of a 4th century Christian saint who was known for his generosity and charitable acts.

Is God based on an historical figure? Are fairies?

Do you believe in Santa Claus?

Atheists/Anti-theists claim religious people are intolerant and dogmatic, but that's exactly what atheists/anti-theists have become.

They've already written off religion and have certain preconceived notions which will never allow them to sincerely engage in debate.

It’s a waste of time to have a conversation or discussion with atheists and anti-theists like you. You are not engaging in good faith and are intolerant. You don’t have any respect for other people’s beliefs while claiming you are a victim of intolerance.

I am tolerant and asked you simple questions which you didn't answer, and instead said negative things about me which you cannot know and which actually aren't true. I am also formerly religious and was a regular church goer.

I have not claimed I'm a victim of intolerance and wonder if you feel that you are.

Here are my questions again. Perhaps you, or another poster, will answer them this time.

Is God based on an historical figure? Are fairies? Do you believe in Santa Claus?

Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate when there is a near miss and someone says “God wanted you to be safe/saved/etc.”

Did God want other who were not so lucky to die? How callous.

When wondering why God would allow bad things to happen to good people, it’s also good to consider these four things about the bad things that happen:

1) Bad things may happen to good people in this world, but this world is not the end. Christians have an eternal perspective: “We do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal” (2 Corinthians 4:16–18). We will have a reward some day, and it will be glorious.

2) Bad things happen to good people, but God uses those bad things for an ultimate, lasting good. “We know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose” (Romans 8:28). When Joseph, innocent of wrongdoing, finally came through his horrific sufferings, he was able to see God’s good plan in it all (see Genesis 50:19–21).

3) Bad things happen to good people, but those bad things equip believers for deeper ministry. “Praise be to . . . the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God. For just as we share abundantly in the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ” (2 Corinthians 1:3–5). Those with battle scars can better help those going through battles.

4) Bad things happen to good people, and the worst things happened to the best Person. Jesus was the only truly Righteous One, yet He suffered more than we can imagine. We follow in His footsteps: “If you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps. ‘He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth.’ When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly” (1 Peter 2:20–23). Jesus is no stranger to our pain.

https://www.gotquestions.org/bad-things-good-people.html

Christians do not believe that their life on earth is the end. Christians believe that their life on earth is a very tiny part of their life. They believe their eternal life with God is the larger and more important life. Saving someone’s earthly life isn’t as important as saving someone’s eternal life.

You do not have to believe anything. You can believe in whatever you want, or nothing, or anything in between. But there’s a large part of Christianity you either don’t know about or purposely ignore when you rant against God being “callous.”

If you think Christianity is callous, that’s your opinion. For billions of people, it’s salvation.

The fact that you had to use so many words to explain, well, whatever you tried to explain, is just proof that it’s all just made up.

For me, it's not the number of words used, it's the lack of meaning in the words

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate when there is a near miss and someone says “God wanted you to be safe/saved/etc.”

Did God want other who were not so lucky to die? How callous.

When wondering why God would allow bad things to happen to good people, it’s also good to consider these four things about the bad things that happen:

1) Bad things may happen to good people in this world, but this world is not the end. Christians have an eternal perspective: “We do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal” (2 Corinthians 4:16–18). We will have a reward some day, and it will be glorious.

2) Bad things happen to good people, but God uses those bad things for an ultimate, lasting good. “We know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose” (Romans 8:28). When Joseph, innocent of wrongdoing, finally came through his horrific sufferings, he was able to see God’s good plan in it all (see Genesis 50:19–21).

3) Bad things happen to good people, but those bad things equip believers for deeper ministry. “Praise be to . . . the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God. For just as we share abundantly in the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ” (2 Corinthians 1:3–5). Those with battle scars can better help those going through battles.

4) Bad things happen to good people, and the worst things happened to the best Person. Jesus was the only truly Righteous One, yet He suffered more than we can imagine. We follow in His footsteps: “If you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps. ‘He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth.’ When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly” (1 Peter 2:20–23). Jesus is no stranger to our pain.

https://www.gotquestions.org/bad-things-good-people.html

Christians do not believe that their life on earth is the end. Christians believe that their life on earth is a very tiny part of their life. They believe their eternal life with God is the larger and more important life. Saving someone’s earthly life isn’t as important as saving someone’s eternal life.

You do not have to believe anything. You can believe in whatever you want, or nothing, or anything in between. But there’s a large part of Christianity you either don’t know about or purposely ignore when you rant against God being “callous.”

If you think Christianity is callous, that’s your opinion. For billions of people, it’s salvation.

The fact that you had to use so many words to explain, well, whatever you tried to explain, is just proof that it’s all just made up.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate when there is a near miss and someone says “God wanted you to be safe/saved/etc.”

Did God want other who were not so lucky to die? How callous.

When wondering why God would allow bad things to happen to good people, it’s also good to consider these four things about the bad things that happen:

1) Bad things may happen to good people in this world, but this world is not the end. Christians have an eternal perspective: “We do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal” (2 Corinthians 4:16–18). We will have a reward some day, and it will be glorious.

2) Bad things happen to good people, but God uses those bad things for an ultimate, lasting good. “We know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose” (Romans 8:28). When Joseph, innocent of wrongdoing, finally came through his horrific sufferings, he was able to see God’s good plan in it all (see Genesis 50:19–21).

3) Bad things happen to good people, but those bad things equip believers for deeper ministry. “Praise be to . . . the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God. For just as we share abundantly in the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ” (2 Corinthians 1:3–5). Those with battle scars can better help those going through battles.

4) Bad things happen to good people, and the worst things happened to the best Person. Jesus was the only truly Righteous One, yet He suffered more than we can imagine. We follow in His footsteps: “If you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps. ‘He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth.’ When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly” (1 Peter 2:20–23). Jesus is no stranger to our pain.

https://www.gotquestions.org/bad-things-good-people.html

Christians do not believe that their life on earth is the end. Christians believe that their life on earth is a very tiny part of their life. They believe their eternal life with God is the larger and more important life. Saving someone’s earthly life isn’t as important as saving someone’s eternal life.

You do not have to believe anything. You can believe in whatever you want, or nothing, or anything in between. But there’s a large part of Christianity you either don’t know about or purposely ignore when you rant against God being “callous.”

If you think Christianity is callous, that’s your opinion. For billions of people, it’s salvation.

Anonymous wrote:Science is actually backing up that positive energy has a higher frequency and attracts other positive energy. Think of God as positive energy and you won't have these same dilemmas. You will see God as love and stop seeing bad things in people helping each other out. When people "see God" in tragedy they mean they see the positive energy working through others to help each other out.

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Anonymous wrote:People need to come together after something awful happens, like the crash at National Airport last night, but they don't need religion to do it.

It makes me sick to hear people invoke God for comfort after the crash, when God, if he existed, supposedly could have prevented the crash.

It would be nice if people could just come together after a tragedy without pulling religion into it.

Oh go f$ck yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:People need to come together after something awful happens, like the crash at National Airport last night, but they don't need religion to do it.

It makes me sick to hear people invoke God for comfort after the crash, when God, if he existed, supposedly could have prevented the crash.

It would be nice if people could just come together after a tragedy without pulling religion into it.

Oh go f$ck yourself.

Did GOd tell you to write that?

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Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

Read Lord of the Flies to explain the holocaust.

What does Lord of the Flies have to do with an ever lasting God?
-NP

It has to do with how evil comes into the world. Through us.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate when there is a near miss and someone says “God wanted you to be safe/saved/etc.”

Did God want other who were not so lucky to die? How callous.

When wondering why God would allow bad things to happen to good people, it’s also good to consider these four things about the bad things that happen:

1) Bad things may happen to good people in this world, but this world is not the end. Christians have an eternal perspective: “We do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal” (2 Corinthians 4:16–18). We will have a reward some day, and it will be glorious.

2) Bad things happen to good people, but God uses those bad things for an ultimate, lasting good. “We know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose” (Romans 8:28). When Joseph, innocent of wrongdoing, finally came through his horrific sufferings, he was able to see God’s good plan in it all (see Genesis 50:19–21).

3) Bad things happen to good people, but those bad things equip believers for deeper ministry. “Praise be to . . . the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God. For just as we share abundantly in the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ” (2 Corinthians 1:3–5). Those with battle scars can better help those going through battles.

4) Bad things happen to good people, and the worst things happened to the best Person. Jesus was the only truly Righteous One, yet He suffered more than we can imagine. We follow in His footsteps: “If you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps. ‘He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth.’ When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly” (1 Peter 2:20–23). Jesus is no stranger to our pain.

https://www.gotquestions.org/bad-things-good-people.html

Christians do not believe that their life on earth is the end. Christians believe that their life on earth is a very tiny part of their life. They believe their eternal life with God is the larger and more important life. Saving someone’s earthly life isn’t as important as saving someone’s eternal life.

You do not have to believe anything. You can believe in whatever you want, or nothing, or anything in between. But there’s a large part of Christianity you either don’t know about or purposely ignore when you rant against God being “callous.”

If you think Christianity is callous, that’s your opinion. For billions of people, it’s salvation.

Tired of hearing long explanations for how "God" allowed awful things to happen? Stop believing -- like how you stopped believing in Santa.

Why is it important to you that I don’t believe in God? How is it any of your business?

You don't believe in God? Good to know. It could mean that you're more tolerant overall - and have given up childish beliefs. Welcome to adulthood.