I know that facts have no bearing on anything Trump says but it appears that the military helicopter is to blame.

Anonymous wrote:Most of you probably aren't old enough to remember Reagan fired over 11,000 air traffic controllers in 1991 and then there was a terrible plane crash in DC in 1982. Republican Presidents don't believe in regulations and the public suffers.

Don't you mean 1981?

Anonymous wrote:What's driving me crazy is that there is full audio and video showing any reasonable person that the traffic controller didn't do anything wrong. The army helicopter just flew right into a fully lit plane that was right in front of it and fully visible, and which it had already said it could see. Why is he focusing on the FAA and deflecting from the copter? Could it be the helicopter was there for some reason he doesn't want people to know?

I agree. I was shocked the helicopter caught up to the plane.

What's driving me crazy is that there is full audio and video showing any reasonable person that the traffic controller didn't do anything wrong. The army helicopter just flew right into a fully lit plane that was right in front of it and fully visible, and which it had already said it could see. Why is he focusing on the FAA and deflecting from the copter? Could it be the helicopter was there for some reason he doesn't want people to know?

Anonymous wrote:His attacks on disabled people is the most shocking to me. He said all of these comments about hiring disabled people during the press conference (for the FAA which all of those employees are not air traffic controllers) and all of his anti DEI hiring practices are DEIA, A for Accessibility. Is nobody else concerned about this? Will this rhetoric impede people with disabilities from getting jobs?

Hello, given the election results, I would say most don’t care. I sure as hell didn’t vote for him.

Anonymous wrote:This isn't a news link I think it was omitted because what your saying here is a lie. This isn't a full though just an attack on Trump with no merit. But you know this.

Source for your ridiculousness OP?

I know it sounds so ridiculous that it must be a lie but is not. Just find Trump’s press conference today and watch by yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:He also blamed people with I/DD:
"I do want to point out that various articles that appeared prior to my entering office, and here's one the FAA's diversity push includes focus on hiring people with severe intellectual and psychiatric disabilities," Trump said. "That is amazing, and then it says, FAA says people with severe disabilities are most underrepresented segment of the workforce, and they want them in and they want them. They can be air traffic controllers, I don't think so. This was in Jan. 14, [2024], so that was a week before I entered office. They put a big push to put diversity into the FAA's program. Then another article, the Federal Aviation Administration. This was before I got to office recently, second term. The FAA is actively recruiting workers who suffer severe intellectual disabilities, psychiatric problems, and other mental and physical conditions under under a diversity and inclusion hiring initiative spelled out on the agency's website. Can you imagine?"

I wish I could laugh except 70 people are dead.

yeah sure. this crash happened because the air traffic controllers had Down syndrome.

Please don't pick on people with Down Syndrome.

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They were turned away because of the color of their skin,” Vice President JD Vance said of air traffic controllers. “That policy ends under Donald Trump’s leadership.”

We do not know what led to this crash, but we have some very strong opinions and ideas,” he said. “And I think we'll probably state those opinions now, because over the years I've watched as things like this happen and they say, ‘Well, we're always investigating.’”

How long do we have to listen to this garbage? Now this tragedy will turn into a race issue and the country won’t be able to get together and grieve for these people.

Actually I think he said we should hire the best and the brightest air traffic controllers and not base hiring on race, sex, orientation, etc. It’s called a meritocracy.

Meritocracy doesn't mean just all white men.

It's so bizarre to me how people can listen the divisive crazy he spouts and come up with meritocracy... is that all you got? Did any of these people actually listened to his presser. I mean I get that that DEI boogeyman touched upon the anxieties of the working class, it's an old horse and this isn't it's first go round. But it's Pavlovian now.. he rings the bell and you all start salivating. That's all you hear, do you shut down after that.

He was fairly blunt in blaming DEI, which means "intellectually disabled" and "mentally... psychologically disabled people" for the crash. Here are his words. It was shocking when I heard him speak them, it is no less shocking to read them in black and white. “The FAA is actively recruiting workers who suffer severe intellectual disabilities, psychiatric problems and other mental and physical conditions under a diversity and inclusion hiring initiative spelled out on the agency’s website,” Trump said. He added that the program allowed for the hiring of people with hearing and vision issues as well as paralysis, epilepsy and “dwarfism.” - Donald J. Trump 1/30/2025.

"FAA diversity push includes focus on hiring people with severe intellectual and psychiatric disabilities. That is amazing, and then it says FAA says people with severe disabilities are most underrepresented segment of the workforce, and they want them in, and they want them. They can be air traffic controllers. I don't think so," Trump said.

Who hear believes that dwarfs, blind and deaf people, folks who can't read or write mental patients, are responsible in any way shape or form for this air crash. I'm confused... are blind, deaf, illiterate, and psychotic dwarfs running the ATC towers?

He told us what he really means, when he said previous leadership, determined the FAA was "too white" So after going on and on about dwarfs, illiterates and blind people he gets to the meat, anyone the opposite of too white.

"You can't have regular people doing their job" "The helicopter pilots were wearing night vision googles" what... what the what. Clearly he's sitting in a room, drifting in and out of whatever conversations are going around him, has no ability to synthesize info, so just just hangs on a few words that he then spouts out.

He thinks DEI was was responsible he has no evidence however, other than, "it just could have been” and he knows this because “because I have common sense".

Oh and don't forget the gays, they are responsible too. Pete Buttigieg was a "disaster". “He’s run it right into the ground with his diversity,”

He sounds like Hitler, do we need to start hiding our disabled family members in the floorboards, are the round ups coming? Where is he getting this nonsense from? Musk, Steven Miller?

Anyone who listened to that presser and thinks any of it was anything less than the ramblings of an unhinged demented old puppet fool please step up and explain what is wrong with you that you care so little about your country. He went after mentally ill people, dwarfs, all not white people, blind and deaf people, people of IQs below 80 and average to above and high average IQs, even the really bright people those 130-149. So who's left Musk?

I mean where is the guy with the 7 foot cane and the butterfly net when you need him. This is really scary stuff. Trumps a tool, a sad and stupid tool. There is no denying it at this point.

He’s such a dumbass and so inarticulate.

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Anonymous wrote:Aside from the disgusting DEI comments, early indications are that ATC didn’t do anything wrong. It was the Blackhawk that reported visual contact and then failed to maintain separation.

I don't think ATC is faultless. It looks like the helicopters were focused on runway 1, which is where the vast majority of take-offs and landings occur at Reagan. They probably believed they had the American Eagle plane in sight. However, it can be very difficult to identify different types of aircraft, particularly at night while wearing night vision goggles that severely limit peripheral vision. But most importantly, they did not seem aware that the American Eagle had been instructed at the last minute to use the little used runway 33, which crosses runway 1 and necessitates a different approach. The lack of clear instructions from ATC in a very busy airspace at night should be investigated. And I think it's nuts that helicopters are routinely told to rely on visual contact while crossing busy runways at night.

Not true. There's a VAS Aviation youtube where you can hear the exchange between DCA Tower and the Blackhawk. The Blackhawk was explicitly instructed to look for a CRJ over Wilson Bridge at 1200', on the approach for runway 33. Now... it might have been better if the controller had said "XX miles, 10 o'clock" so that the helicopter pilot would have automatically looked to their left, rather than (maybe) fixating on the their right. But the controller's instructions were at least sufficient, especially considering the helicopter pilot then reported visual contact.

+1

Anonymous wrote:Maga will follow him off a cliff and blame Biden

….and Obama

Trump, asked if he plans to visit the crash site:

"What's the site, the water? You want me to go swimming?"

What a putz.

Maga will follow him off a cliff and blame Biden

Anonymous wrote:Could it have been a suicide?

This was my initial thought, but there were three soldiers involved. So, why wouldn't the other two have done / said something? Or why not just fly the helicopter into the river if that's your intention. Hitting a plane full of people makes it a murder / suicide. Which may be the case but then there's reason to investigate any possible ties to terrorism or something else nefarious.

Anonymous wrote:You can see on the video that the helicopter runs straight into the plane, and should have seen it right in front of them from a ways back. You can hear the controller ask if they see it, hear them say yes, and tell them to go behind it. Instead, they went into it.

How is this the controller's fault? It's clearly the fault of the army. Why are they having "training" flights right in a major flight zone? Why didn't they see the plane right in front of them?

Whatever the reason, it almost certainly leads straight back to some stupid thing someone in the new admin did, and they are deflecting by suggesting the controller did something wrong because they only got the job as a minority. But....wasn't the controller white??

The controller was doing the work of two.
Air traffic control is understaffed.

It was a year ago that Washington Times had an editorial about FAA not hiring air traffic controllers for being white.