people crap on radford a lot, which I think is unfortunate. It's a perfectly fine place for the kids that aren't academic superstars.

the campus is quite nice. It has one of the nicest rec centers we toured. they also just built a lovely new building that houses quite a few departments, including one of the prettiest dance studios in the country.

the town is not the best, but the current prez encourages cooperation with VT, less than half an hour away. there is a radford student section at VT football games.

For some of the big out-of-state publics, you can get in with a 3.5 but you won’t get merit aid. For others you will.

Look at university of South Carolina, University of Tennessee, u Delaware, Indiana, pitt and Penn State. Not engineering or business or nursing, but less popular programs or liberal arts you will get in but a 3.5 or below probably won’t get merit, and it will probably be around 50-60k.

For some other out of state, especially ones out west that want to attract DMV students, you may get merit. I’ve heard good merit stories from like university of Minnesota, or university of Montana, etc.,

The smaller slacs and jesuit schools like Susquehanna, Gettysburg, juniata, st joes, Loyola md, etc May also have merit aid.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Can we please stop discussing Liberty? It's completely out of the question for DC.

So far, thank you for the helpful responses. We are going to look at:

Longwood
CNU
WVU


Are there any others that would be a good fit for a sporty mainstream child that are akin to JMU/Penn State/VT but more for a B profile student?

why not radford or odu?

I will float those as well. But DC has heard a lot of negative talk about Radford so doesn't seem excited about it.

Like what? I have never heard these schools spoken about so have no idea.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Can we please stop discussing Liberty? It's completely out of the question for DC.

So far, thank you for the helpful responses. We are going to look at:

Longwood
CNU
WVU


Are there any others that would be a good fit for a sporty mainstream child that are akin to JMU/Penn State/VT but more for a B profile student?

why not radford or odu?

I will float those as well. But DC has heard a lot of negative talk about Radford so doesn't seem excited about it.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Can we please stop discussing Liberty? It's completely out of the question for DC.

So far, thank you for the helpful responses. We are going to look at:

Longwood
CNU
WVU


Are there any others that would be a good fit for a sporty mainstream child that are akin to JMU/Penn State/VT but more for a B profile student?

why not radford or odu?

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Anonymous wrote:NVCC's nursing program is surprisingly good - I know people who have gone there as part of a career transition and thought it prepared them well and was sufficiently academically challenging.

What's his test scores? Is he a B student because he's a slacker, and may find himself in college, or is he a B student because he may be reasonably hard-working but with some special needs or is just not the sharpest tool in the shed? For the former, GMU/JMU seems like a better place, maybe CNU as well. For the latter, Longwood.

OP here. They're a B student because of multiple Learning Disabilities that are well documented by an IEP. They work incredibly hard but the FCPS 70/30 grading policy has presented challenges this year. We will be looking at a solid B GPA when applying next year and kid wants a traditional college experience away from NOVA - so ruling out GMU, Marymount and NVCC. Kid also doesn't want emo/artsy schools so smaller liberal arts with quirky kids won't be up their alley.

I have questions! LOL. What are the emo/artsy schools you are avoiding? Why the disdain for the quirky people out there? They will be at every university and workplace for the rest of your DC's life. Better to learn to coexist now rather than struggle later.

+1 Intolerance is not a good look.

Are you the posters who just tore Liberty apart? Interesting lack of self-awareness you have.
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Liberty is a joke school that uses fiction instead of textbooks. That alone positions it at least one rung below even open access schools like GMU.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but please. "Fiction instead of textbooks"? What kind of asinine comment is that? They have a very well-respected nursing program.
DP

This board (esp the Religion forum) attracts a certain category of ex-evangelical, current atheist who really, really, really hates Christianity. The "fairy tales" comment upthread reads like one of those posters. That person likes to use "fairy tale" a lot to talk about all religions - but they really only mean Christianity.

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Anonymous wrote:NVCC's nursing program is surprisingly good - I know people who have gone there as part of a career transition and thought it prepared them well and was sufficiently academically challenging.

What's his test scores? Is he a B student because he's a slacker, and may find himself in college, or is he a B student because he may be reasonably hard-working but with some special needs or is just not the sharpest tool in the shed? For the former, GMU/JMU seems like a better place, maybe CNU as well. For the latter, Longwood.

OP here. They're a B student because of multiple Learning Disabilities that are well documented by an IEP. They work incredibly hard but the FCPS 70/30 grading policy has presented challenges this year. We will be looking at a solid B GPA when applying next year and kid wants a traditional college experience away from NOVA - so ruling out GMU, Marymount and NVCC. Kid also doesn't want emo/artsy schools so smaller liberal arts with quirky kids won't be up their alley.

I have questions! LOL. What are the emo/artsy schools you are avoiding? Why the disdain for the quirky people out there? They will be at every university and workplace for the rest of your DC's life. Better to learn to coexist now rather than struggle later.

+1 Intolerance is not a good look.

Are you the posters who just tore Liberty apart? Interesting lack of self-awareness you have.
DP

DP.
Liberty is a joke school that uses fiction instead of textbooks. That alone positions it at least one rung below even open access schools like GMU.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but please. "Fiction instead of textbooks"? What kind of asinine comment is that? They have a very well-respected nursing program.
DP

Anti-Christians can't help themselves and feel oblicated to chime in whenever Liberty University is mentioned.

I don’t have an anti-Christian issue with Liberty. I’m not the one that posted about the books.

I do think the treatment of women is horrific, though.

As well as the history of the creepy family who was in charge.

I can agree with this part as a Christian and Liberty is a hard pass for our family also.

However we know some really great Liberty grads who enjoyed the school and are doing well in their chosen perspectives. Associating someone who graduated from there with the founders horrible failures is weird.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Can we please stop discussing Liberty? It's completely out of the question for DC.

So far, thank you for the helpful responses. We are going to look at:

Longwood
CNU
WVU


Are there any others that would be a good fit for a sporty mainstream child that are akin to JMU/Penn State/VT but more for a B profile student?

Elon, UTK, Auburn, Clemson

You could add UNC Wilmington/Charlotte, College of Charleston, U Vermont, UConn, UMass. Not sure about the merit though.

U Vermont is crunchy granola patagonia bernie sanders left wing democratic

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Can we please stop discussing Liberty? It's completely out of the question for DC.

So far, thank you for the helpful responses. We are going to look at:

Longwood
CNU
WVU


Are there any others that would be a good fit for a sporty mainstream child that are akin to JMU/Penn State/VT but more for a B profile student?

Elon, UTK, Auburn, Clemson

You could add UNC Wilmington/Charlotte, College of Charleston, U Vermont, UConn, UMass. Not sure about the merit though.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Can we please stop discussing Liberty? It's completely out of the question for DC.

So far, thank you for the helpful responses. We are going to look at:

Longwood
CNU
WVU


Are there any others that would be a good fit for a sporty mainstream child that are akin to JMU/Penn State/VT but more for a B profile student?

Elon, UTK, Auburn, Clemson

OP here. Can we please stop discussing Liberty? It's completely out of the question for DC.

So far, thank you for the helpful responses. We are going to look at:

Longwood
CNU
WVU


Are there any others that would be a good fit for a sporty mainstream child that are akin to JMU/Penn State/VT but more for a B profile student?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NVCC's nursing program is surprisingly good - I know people who have gone there as part of a career transition and thought it prepared them well and was sufficiently academically challenging.

What's his test scores? Is he a B student because he's a slacker, and may find himself in college, or is he a B student because he may be reasonably hard-working but with some special needs or is just not the sharpest tool in the shed? For the former, GMU/JMU seems like a better place, maybe CNU as well. For the latter, Longwood.

OP here. They're a B student because of multiple Learning Disabilities that are well documented by an IEP. They work incredibly hard but the FCPS 70/30 grading policy has presented challenges this year. We will be looking at a solid B GPA when applying next year and kid wants a traditional college experience away from NOVA - so ruling out GMU, Marymount and NVCC. Kid also doesn't want emo/artsy schools so smaller liberal arts with quirky kids won't be up their alley.

I have questions! LOL. What are the emo/artsy schools you are avoiding? Why the disdain for the quirky people out there? They will be at every university and workplace for the rest of your DC's life. Better to learn to coexist now rather than struggle later.

+1 Intolerance is not a good look.

Are you the posters who just tore Liberty apart? Interesting lack of self-awareness you have.
DP

DP.
Liberty is a joke school that uses fiction instead of textbooks. That alone positions it at least one rung below even open access schools like GMU.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but please. "Fiction instead of textbooks"? What kind of asinine comment is that? They have a very well-respected nursing program.
DP

Anti-Christians can't help themselves and feel oblicated to chime in whenever Liberty University is mentioned.

I don’t have an anti-Christian issue with Liberty. I’m not the one that posted about the books.

I do think the treatment of women is horrific, though.

As well as the history of the creepy family who was in charge.

*obligated

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NVCC's nursing program is surprisingly good - I know people who have gone there as part of a career transition and thought it prepared them well and was sufficiently academically challenging.

What's his test scores? Is he a B student because he's a slacker, and may find himself in college, or is he a B student because he may be reasonably hard-working but with some special needs or is just not the sharpest tool in the shed? For the former, GMU/JMU seems like a better place, maybe CNU as well. For the latter, Longwood.

OP here. They're a B student because of multiple Learning Disabilities that are well documented by an IEP. They work incredibly hard but the FCPS 70/30 grading policy has presented challenges this year. We will be looking at a solid B GPA when applying next year and kid wants a traditional college experience away from NOVA - so ruling out GMU, Marymount and NVCC. Kid also doesn't want emo/artsy schools so smaller liberal arts with quirky kids won't be up their alley.

I have questions! LOL. What are the emo/artsy schools you are avoiding? Why the disdain for the quirky people out there? They will be at every university and workplace for the rest of your DC's life. Better to learn to coexist now rather than struggle later.

+1 Intolerance is not a good look.

Are you the posters who just tore Liberty apart? Interesting lack of self-awareness you have.
DP

DP.
Liberty is a joke school that uses fiction instead of textbooks. That alone positions it at least one rung below even open access schools like GMU.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but please. "Fiction instead of textbooks"? What kind of asinine comment is that? They have a very well-respected nursing program.
DP

Anti-Christians can't help themselves and feel oblicated to chime in whenever Liberty University is mentioned.

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Anonymous wrote:Is your kid open to schools outside of Virginia?

Since you are open to private schools, it doesn't seem like you have a mind set where you are restricting yourself to "in-state tuition."
There are many schools in MD, WV, PA that are closer than some Virginia schools.

Open to a degree. Cost is a factor. Kid could be interested in WVU if they get merit. Also interested in bigger schools like Univ of TN and South Carolina (again need merit).

My kid had a similar UW GPA. We wanted some merit. Some schools on our list. Kentucky the gpa cut off for reasonable merit is 3.6 UW. Came to over 40K. WVU for $11,000 was maybe 3.5 weighted? Cheapest we deal we got. Arizona maybe a 3.6 UW? Decent value but still between 40-45. Thought about UNC Charlotte due to low oos tuition. Delaware shot down due cost. Miami of Ohio give merit based on a weighted GPA. So, didn't work out that well for my kid.

You probably aren't getting a low cost (comparable to in state) to an OOS big name private with under a 3.5. Maybe if you have a great SAT.

meant to say big name public.