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Anonymous wrote:This will probably get moved to Health. We have done the shots every fall. We got delayed this year and just got them a few days ago. We got both Covid and flu. Two parents, two teens.

I read recently that the latest Covid shot has only been received by about 20% of US adults and 10% of US children.

Those estimates for covid shot uptake are inaccurate and are not based on actual vaccine data. Rather, they come from a CDC telephone survey that has consistently overestimated covid vaccine uptake by large margins for a number of years. However, the CDC continues to publicize its inflated phone survey results and the press continues to report them. By saying that more people are getting the covid vaccine than actually are, they likely hope that more people will take the vaccine. Look at state data if you want accurate data on covid vaccine uptake -- state data is based on actual vaccines administered, not a phone survey. In New York, 9.4% of residents have taken the covid vaccine, concentrated in the elderly. Almost no children have taken it -- less than 3% of NY children 18 years and younger have had the latest covid booster.
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-and-influenza-vaccination-data
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-and-influenza-vaccination-demographics

New York Uptake of 2024-25 covid vaccine, % of population receiving vaccine
All ages 9.4%
Adults 11.2%
0-4 years 2.5%
5-11 years 2.7%
12-18 years 2.9%

Thank you for sharing this. Many people think the vaccine numbers are based on pharmacies or doctors’ office reporting actual numbers of vaccines given, but it is in fact much less reliable phone surveys.

I'm vaccinated but I've never received a phone survey or if I did, i didn't respond. I wouldn't assume the survey numbers are inflated, let alone intentionally inflated (10% is hardly a persuasive number).
But I agree it's silly not to just use reported vaccinations.

The CDC NIS-ACM phone survey estimates have consistently overstated national covid vaccine uptake by 6-8 percentage points which can be seen by comparing their estimates to national vaccine data (pre-spring 2023) and state covid vaccine data. The overstatement makes sense. For several years, people were threatened with not being able to access shops/venues, keep their jobs, or enroll in college if they didn't take the covid vaccine. When the CDC calls (who is recommending covid vaccine for all ages) and asks if you've been vaccinated for covid, many will be hesitant to answer in the negative. But it's not just the covid vaccine. Prior CDC studies have shown that when hospitals ask patients if they've had the flu vaccine, those responses overestimate flu vaccine uptake significantly as well; patients thought they were supposed to have taken the vaccine and didn't want to admit that they hadn't.

You can see the CDC's phone survey overstatement in New York's case. The same CDC phone survey that generates the inflated 20% adults/10% child national estimates also does state estimates. The CDC phone survey currently estimates that 21.5% of NY adults have taken the covid vaccine but we know from NY's own figures that only 11.2% of NY adults have taken it. The CDC is well aware that its phone survey estimates are overstatements. They used to acknowledge this qualitatively in their presentations but now they don't even do that. It is misleading but since it comes from an official source, the press reports it and people believe it. Unfortunately, the CDC also briefs APIC (the group that makes vaccine recommendations) with its covid phone survey data which means APIC is not seeing accurate vaccine uptake data either. https://www.cdc.gov/covidvaxview/weekly-dashboard/adult-vaccination-coverage.html

While the 10% national uptake figure for children may not sound persuasive, it's more persuasive than saying that less than 3% of children have taken the covid vaccine. The CDC has actual national vaccination data (IQVIA) from pharmacies and physicians' offices, but opts not to publicize it. As of the end of November, this series showed that less than 10% of Americans (adults and children) had taken the covid vaccine.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will probably get moved to Health. We have done the shots every fall. We got delayed this year and just got them a few days ago. We got both Covid and flu. Two parents, two teens.

I read recently that the latest Covid shot has only been received by about 20% of US adults and 10% of US children.

Those estimates for covid shot uptake are inaccurate and are not based on actual vaccine data. Rather, they come from a CDC telephone survey that has consistently overestimated covid vaccine uptake by large margins for a number of years. However, the CDC continues to publicize its inflated phone survey results and the press continues to report them. By saying that more people are getting the covid vaccine than actually are, they likely hope that more people will take the vaccine. Look at state data if you want accurate data on covid vaccine uptake -- state data is based on actual vaccines administered, not a phone survey. In New York, 9.4% of residents have taken the covid vaccine, concentrated in the elderly. Almost no children have taken it -- less than 3% of NY children 18 years and younger have had the latest covid booster.
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-and-influenza-vaccination-data
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-and-influenza-vaccination-demographics

New York Uptake of 2024-25 covid vaccine, % of population receiving vaccine
All ages 9.4%
Adults 11.2%
0-4 years 2.5%
5-11 years 2.7%
12-18 years 2.9%

20% or 10% or 9.2 %, it all adds up to:


80% or fewer Americans DID NOT get the 3rd shot (which is not a booster, it rather a new vaccine entirely).

The gist of the discussion should be that 80% and their (our) distrust of the “need” for a vaccine which our government declared mandatory just a few years ago.

I believe it is accurate to say: “mistakes were made” and we have not even broached the topic of educational damage inflicted on our children by government policy at every level.

I used to get all vaccinations and same with my kids. We stopped after the second COVID booster. Why?
One son absolutely hates shots. He’s 15, and I really can’t force him anymore.
The newer strains COVID really only seem like a mild cold for those without at risk conditions. My DH and I both had COVID over the holidays. Wasn’t that bad.
Flu shots are rarely helpful - they guess at what strain will be dominant each year, and not always accurate.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will probably get moved to Health. We have done the shots every fall. We got delayed this year and just got them a few days ago. We got both Covid and flu. Two parents, two teens.

I read recently that the latest Covid shot has only been received by about 20% of US adults and 10% of US children.

Those estimates for covid shot uptake are inaccurate and are not based on actual vaccine data. Rather, they come from a CDC telephone survey that has consistently overestimated covid vaccine uptake by large margins for a number of years. However, the CDC continues to publicize its inflated phone survey results and the press continues to report them. By saying that more people are getting the covid vaccine than actually are, they likely hope that more people will take the vaccine. Look at state data if you want accurate data on covid vaccine uptake -- state data is based on actual vaccines administered, not a phone survey. In New York, 9.4% of residents have taken the covid vaccine, concentrated in the elderly. Almost no children have taken it -- less than 3% of NY children 18 years and younger have had the latest covid booster.
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-and-influenza-vaccination-data
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-and-influenza-vaccination-demographics

New York Uptake of 2024-25 covid vaccine, % of population receiving vaccine
All ages 9.4%
Adults 11.2%
0-4 years 2.5%
5-11 years 2.7%
12-18 years 2.9%

Thank you for sharing this. Many people think the vaccine numbers are based on pharmacies or doctors’ office reporting actual numbers of vaccines given, but it is in fact much less reliable phone surveys.

I'm vaccinated but I've never received a phone survey or if I did, i didn't respond. I wouldn't assume the survey numbers are inflated, let alone intentionally inflated (10% is hardly a persuasive number).
But I agree it's silly not to just use reported vaccinations.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids(all girls ) got the initial COVID shot and Booster. My two teens, had horrendous menstrual cycles after both and really messed up the cycles for a few months. I also had a few very heavy/irregular cycles that I never had before or after and I had COVID arm after first shot. We have not done COVID shots since the initial Booster. We always do flu shots.

I've gotten all of the COVID shots and boosters as recommended, but they have consistently messed up my menstrual cycles. I'd really like to understand more about that.

That information, or even discussion of it, was repressed by the mainstream media, social media (under government coercion), and even on this discussion board.

Repression of discussion is wrong.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will probably get moved to Health. We have done the shots every fall. We got delayed this year and just got them a few days ago. We got both Covid and flu. Two parents, two teens.

I read recently that the latest Covid shot has only been received by about 20% of US adults and 10% of US children.

Those estimates for covid shot uptake are inaccurate and are not based on actual vaccine data. Rather, they come from a CDC telephone survey that has consistently overestimated covid vaccine uptake by large margins for a number of years. However, the CDC continues to publicize its inflated phone survey results and the press continues to report them. By saying that more people are getting the covid vaccine than actually are, they likely hope that more people will take the vaccine. Look at state data if you want accurate data on covid vaccine uptake -- state data is based on actual vaccines administered, not a phone survey. In New York, 9.4% of residents have taken the covid vaccine, concentrated in the elderly. Almost no children have taken it -- less than 3% of NY children 18 years and younger have had the latest covid booster.
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-and-influenza-vaccination-data
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-and-influenza-vaccination-demographics

New York Uptake of 2024-25 covid vaccine, % of population receiving vaccine
All ages 9.4%
Adults 11.2%
0-4 years 2.5%
5-11 years 2.7%
12-18 years 2.9%

Thank you for sharing this. Many people think the vaccine numbers are based on pharmacies or doctors’ office reporting actual numbers of vaccines given, but it is in fact much less reliable phone surveys.

Anonymous wrote:This will probably get moved to Health. We have done the shots every fall. We got delayed this year and just got them a few days ago. We got both Covid and flu. Two parents, two teens.

I read recently that the latest Covid shot has only been received by about 20% of US adults and 10% of US children.

Those estimates for covid shot uptake are inaccurate and are not based on actual vaccine data. Rather, they come from a CDC telephone survey that has consistently overestimated covid vaccine uptake by large margins for a number of years. However, the CDC continues to publicize its inflated phone survey results and the press continues to report them. By saying that more people are getting the covid vaccine than actually are, they likely hope that more people will take the vaccine. Look at state data if you want accurate data on covid vaccine uptake -- state data is based on actual vaccines administered, not a phone survey. In New York, 9.4% of residents have taken the covid vaccine, concentrated in the elderly. Almost no children have taken it -- less than 3% of NY children 18 years and younger have had the latest covid booster.
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-and-influenza-vaccination-data
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-and-influenza-vaccination-demographics

New York Uptake of 2024-25 covid vaccine, % of population receiving vaccine
All ages 9.4%
Adults 11.2%
0-4 years 2.5%
5-11 years 2.7%
12-18 years 2.9%