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Anonymous wrote:You mean Trad Wife?

Trad Girlfriend is a thing too

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Anonymous wrote:It’s likely a thing in Sweden because Scandinavian countries have really pushed equality and men and women have very similar expectations.

While in theory it should be easier to be a woman there it doesn’t seem that way in practice.

Not surprised women are pushing back.

I have a few friends who live in Sweden and they rave about it. They’re all lawyers married to hot skilled tradesmen who are hands on dads with zero ego and machismo, and the maternity leave, day care and health care situations are amazing. The only thing they don’t like is the food.

Well, that makes no sense because they have that Ligonberry stuff. And meatballs and gravy. I would love it.

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Anonymous wrote:You mean Trad Wife?

Trad wife is a wife (probably a mother too), soft girl is more like trad wife prep.

Marriage isn't a forced necessity for Swedish couples. Its merely a personal choice.

It’s a lot easier to be a non married soft girl - or boy - in Sweden than in the US. Sweden has a social safety net for non working people that the US does not. Women in the US either have to work or get married to at the very least get access to healthcare.

Anonymous wrote:No comment on the delightful Swedish word “Ungdomsbarometern”?

Anonymous wrote:You mean Trad Wife?

Anonymous wrote:Its a great trend if your view of women is that they are like plants or pets or young children. That they aren't able to be independent or manage adult lives and adult responsibilities. That they need to be taken care as they aren't competent and capable like men. The view that a man has to be the plan because a women can't do much and can't manage an independent adult life isn't new and certainly not a trend that is worth emulating.

Anonymous wrote:Its a great trend if your view of women is that they are like plants or pets or young children. That they aren't able to be independent or manage adult lives and adult responsibilities. That they need to be taken care as they aren't competent and capable like men. The view that a man has to be the plan because a women can't do much and can't manage an independent adult life isn't new and certainly not a trend that is worth emulating.

Anonymous wrote:Its a great trend if your view of women is that they are like plants or pets or young children. That they aren't able to be independent or manage adult lives and adult responsibilities. That they need to be taken care as they aren't competent and capable like men. The view that a man has to be the plan because a women can't do much and can't manage an independent adult life isn't new and certainly not a trend that is worth emulating.

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Anonymous wrote:You mean Trad Wife?

Trad wife is a wife (probably a mother too), soft girl is more like trad wife prep.

Marriage isn't a forced necessity for Swedish couples. Its merely a personal choice.

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Anonymous wrote:So the gist of this is that a man is the plan?

Also she is a plan for that man. Its not like he isn't benefiting from this lifestyle. If they are happy, what's our problem?

Is she though?
Men have a tendency not to value domestic labor. And unfortunately many lose interest as women age.

Trad relationships work wonderfully when the man absolutely loves the woman and values her contribution to the household. My parents’ relationship is like that. But even they advised me not to ever depend on a man or give up my income.

Anonymous wrote:I totally support "traditional" gender roles and being a "soft girl." My great-grandmother got married at 22, had five kids in eight years, and used to do things like spend 48 hours straight in the kitchen/farmyard to slaughter and process a whole hog. Her mother-in-law raised 17 kids (can't remember the division, it was something like 8 of her own then 9 step-kids after her first husband died) that she had to feed and do laundry for--this was before electricity or indoor plumbing got to her part of the country.

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Anonymous wrote:For once in my life I feel ahead of the trend! I have been a SAHM since 2008 and became minimalist shortly after. I'm happy for these people that they are realizing a calmer, simpler life without so much consumerism can be extremely fulfilling.

What will you do once the kids don't need you as much? What would happen if your DH dies or you divorce? Is his life insurance worth $10mil? Because $1mil would not be enough if you have kids and a mortgage. Or maybe you have wealthy parents.

Most women should not rely on a man as their plan long term. Sure, if you have kids, take some time off, but if you completely step back from the workplace, you are basically playing Russian Roulette with your and your kids' futures.

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Anonymous wrote:For once in my life I feel ahead of the trend! I have been a SAHM since 2008 and became minimalist shortly after. I'm happy for these people that they are realizing a calmer, simpler life without so much consumerism can be extremely fulfilling.

What will you do once the kids don't need you as much? What would happen if your DH dies or you divorce? Is his life insurance worth $10mil? Because $1mil would not be enough if you have kids and a mortgage. Or maybe you have wealthy parents.

Most women should not rely on a man as their plan long term. Sure, if you have kids, take some time off, but if you completely step back from the workplace, you are basically playing Russian Roulette with your and your kids' futures.