Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 19:33     Subject: Re:How are you preparing your DD to protect herself?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a 52 year old mom of two daughters 18 and 20.

None of us have ever had to deal with sexual harassment. Calm down.


Same.


Male trolls.


I’m a 50 year old woman. Not everyone has the same experiences or carries the same burdens. It might not be fair but that’s how it is.


I’m sure this comment won’t land well but you must be unattractive. Any thin reasonably attractive woman is going to get some unwanted attention in their life.


I’m the PP. I don’t think attractiveness level is a determining factor.

But, I’ve always maintained a healthy weight and work out regularly. And I’m Latina so I have a baseline of attractiveness, at least in my opinion. 😁


Please consider being more inclusive and use LatinX instead.


PP I know you are a MAGA troll but, the majority of people respect how they want to be called..including Democrats!
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 19:23     Subject: How are you preparing your DD to protect herself?

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Anonymous wrote:PP above and I forgot to add that I was sexually assaulted multiple times in my late teens and 20s and didn’t even fully understand it was sexual assault until the last time (when I pressed charges and was ready to testify until last-minute plea deal). That’s why I have started so early with DD.


I’m sorry this happened to you.
I’m not really understanding a sexual assault that you “didn’t really understand was sexual assault” until it happened to you several times.
Obviously that sounds horrific. Very confusing though for the guy as well if he also didn’t realize that it was against your will? Just trying to figure out how that is communicated after the fact so that he is also aware that you now realize it was sexual assault.


I am not PP but a lot of people think it isn't assault if it isn't violent rape. Too drunk to consent, froze up, groped but no penetration - lots of people wrongly think these are not assault.


How is the guy going to know that you don’t want it if you don’t say no.


Unless she clearly says yes, it should not proceed. PERIOD. My friends with boys are teaching their boys this.

If they are drinking to the point of drunk and unable to consent it shoudl not go forward.

Boys aren't animals. It's time we stop treating them like they are not capable of knowing when there is consent.


It’s well past time to stop teaching girls that they can’t use their words. Stop infantilizing women and girls. Don’t teach your daughters that her safety is anyone’s responsibility but her own, for starters.

Gross!!! No I'm sorry, I'm just not going to accept the concept that women have to constantly shoot down advances and if they don't do so aggressively enough for the dumb h*rny male to understand she's giving him a blank check to rape her. Proposition declined. Thank you for illustrating the predatory male entitlement to sex though.


WTF are you on about? Your response is so disconnected from the post you replied to (and reality) that I suggest you might need to call a hotline of some variety.

You are saying men get to badger women for sex constantly and it is the woman's responsibility to say no. It is disgusting. You might be on a list of some kind.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 19:22     Subject: How are you preparing your DD to protect herself?

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Anonymous wrote:PP above and I forgot to add that I was sexually assaulted multiple times in my late teens and 20s and didn’t even fully understand it was sexual assault until the last time (when I pressed charges and was ready to testify until last-minute plea deal). That’s why I have started so early with DD.


I’m sorry this happened to you.
I’m not really understanding a sexual assault that you “didn’t really understand was sexual assault” until it happened to you several times.
Obviously that sounds horrific. Very confusing though for the guy as well if he also didn’t realize that it was against your will? Just trying to figure out how that is communicated after the fact so that he is also aware that you now realize it was sexual assault.


I am not PP but a lot of people think it isn't assault if it isn't violent rape. Too drunk to consent, froze up, groped but no penetration - lots of people wrongly think these are not assault.


How is the guy going to know that you don’t want it if you don’t say no.

Follow the rules of kindergarten and keep your hands to yourself.


Better start teaching your daughters to make the first move or be prepared for no grandkids!


My child reproducing is her business. I'm not asking for grandkids from her. And it's weird that you would leave such a comment on a thread about sexual assault


It was the royal “you” ma’am.

What’s really weird is how some of you think teens and young adults are actually going to get signed consent forms at some point before every step of courtship, for lack of a better term. This is a completely unreasonable and unrealistic expectation.

A more normal response is to expect some amount of kissing or touching to occur, so teach your daughter (or son) to say no when the kissing or touching is not okay anymore (and of course the other person should now stop), but also that the last instance of touching which prompted said “no” is not actually sexual assault. For God’s sake, people.

Your officer, it was just the tip! I pulled it out right away!
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 19:08     Subject: How are you preparing your DD to protect herself?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:PP above and I forgot to add that I was sexually assaulted multiple times in my late teens and 20s and didn’t even fully understand it was sexual assault until the last time (when I pressed charges and was ready to testify until last-minute plea deal). That’s why I have started so early with DD.


I’m sorry this happened to you.
I’m not really understanding a sexual assault that you “didn’t really understand was sexual assault” until it happened to you several times.
Obviously that sounds horrific. Very confusing though for the guy as well if he also didn’t realize that it was against your will? Just trying to figure out how that is communicated after the fact so that he is also aware that you now realize it was sexual assault.


I am not PP but a lot of people think it isn't assault if it isn't violent rape. Too drunk to consent, froze up, groped but no penetration - lots of people wrongly think these are not assault.


How is the guy going to know that you don’t want it if you don’t say no.

Follow the rules of kindergarten and keep your hands to yourself.


Better start teaching your daughters to make the first move or be prepared for no grandkids!


My child reproducing is her business. I'm not asking for grandkids from her. And it's weird that you would leave such a comment on a thread about sexual assault


It was the royal “you” ma’am.

What’s really weird is how some of you think teens and young adults are actually going to get signed consent forms at some point before every step of courtship, for lack of a better term. This is a completely unreasonable and unrealistic expectation.

A more normal response is to expect some amount of kissing or touching to occur, so teach your daughter (or son) to say no when the kissing or touching is not okay anymore (and of course the other person should now stop), but also that the last instance of touching which prompted said “no” is not actually sexual assault. For God’s sake, people.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 19:02     Subject: How are you preparing your DD to protect herself?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP above and I forgot to add that I was sexually assaulted multiple times in my late teens and 20s and didn’t even fully understand it was sexual assault until the last time (when I pressed charges and was ready to testify until last-minute plea deal). That’s why I have started so early with DD.


I’m sorry this happened to you.
I’m not really understanding a sexual assault that you “didn’t really understand was sexual assault” until it happened to you several times.
Obviously that sounds horrific. Very confusing though for the guy as well if he also didn’t realize that it was against your will? Just trying to figure out how that is communicated after the fact so that he is also aware that you now realize it was sexual assault.


I am not PP but a lot of people think it isn't assault if it isn't violent rape. Too drunk to consent, froze up, groped but no penetration - lots of people wrongly think these are not assault.


How is the guy going to know that you don’t want it if you don’t say no.

Follow the rules of kindergarten and keep your hands to yourself.


Better start teaching your daughters to make the first move or be prepared for no grandkids!


My child reproducing is her business. I'm not asking for grandkids from her. And it's weird that you would leave such a comment on a thread about sexual assault
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 18:25     Subject: How are you preparing your DD to protect herself?

News flash —

What happens when mom says no to her son, but after “debate”, badgering, or temper tantrums, she gives in to her son’s demands?

Mom is showing her boy that women don’t really mean no, when they say no.

Think about it next time your son seems to not understand the first time you say no.

Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 18:04     Subject: How are you preparing your DD to protect herself?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP above and I forgot to add that I was sexually assaulted multiple times in my late teens and 20s and didn’t even fully understand it was sexual assault until the last time (when I pressed charges and was ready to testify until last-minute plea deal). That’s why I have started so early with DD.


I’m sorry this happened to you.
I’m not really understanding a sexual assault that you “didn’t really understand was sexual assault” until it happened to you several times.
Obviously that sounds horrific. Very confusing though for the guy as well if he also didn’t realize that it was against your will? Just trying to figure out how that is communicated after the fact so that he is also aware that you now realize it was sexual assault.


I am not PP but a lot of people think it isn't assault if it isn't violent rape. Too drunk to consent, froze up, groped but no penetration - lots of people wrongly think these are not assault.


How is the guy going to know that you don’t want it if you don’t say no.


Unless she clearly says yes, it should not proceed. PERIOD. My friends with boys are teaching their boys this.

If they are drinking to the point of drunk and unable to consent it shoudl not go forward.

Boys aren't animals. It's time we stop treating them like they are not capable of knowing when there is consent.


It’s well past time to stop teaching girls that they can’t use their words. Stop infantilizing women and girls. Don’t teach your daughters that her safety is anyone’s responsibility but her own, for starters.

Gross!!! No I'm sorry, I'm just not going to accept the concept that women have to constantly shoot down advances and if they don't do so aggressively enough for the dumb h*rny male to understand she's giving him a blank check to rape her. Proposition declined. Thank you for illustrating the predatory male entitlement to sex though.


WTF are you on about? Your response is so disconnected from the post you replied to (and reality) that I suggest you might need to call a hotline of some variety.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 18:02     Subject: How are you preparing your DD to protect herself?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP above and I forgot to add that I was sexually assaulted multiple times in my late teens and 20s and didn’t even fully understand it was sexual assault until the last time (when I pressed charges and was ready to testify until last-minute plea deal). That’s why I have started so early with DD.


I’m sorry this happened to you.
I’m not really understanding a sexual assault that you “didn’t really understand was sexual assault” until it happened to you several times.
Obviously that sounds horrific. Very confusing though for the guy as well if he also didn’t realize that it was against your will? Just trying to figure out how that is communicated after the fact so that he is also aware that you now realize it was sexual assault.


I am not PP but a lot of people think it isn't assault if it isn't violent rape. Too drunk to consent, froze up, groped but no penetration - lots of people wrongly think these are not assault.


How is the guy going to know that you don’t want it if you don’t say no.

Follow the rules of kindergarten and keep your hands to yourself.


Better start teaching your daughters to make the first move or be prepared for no grandkids!
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 17:53     Subject: How are you preparing your DD to protect herself?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP above and I forgot to add that I was sexually assaulted multiple times in my late teens and 20s and didn’t even fully understand it was sexual assault until the last time (when I pressed charges and was ready to testify until last-minute plea deal). That’s why I have started so early with DD.


I’m sorry this happened to you.
I’m not really understanding a sexual assault that you “didn’t really understand was sexual assault” until it happened to you several times.
Obviously that sounds horrific. Very confusing though for the guy as well if he also didn’t realize that it was against your will? Just trying to figure out how that is communicated after the fact so that he is also aware that you now realize it was sexual assault.


I am not PP but a lot of people think it isn't assault if it isn't violent rape. Too drunk to consent, froze up, groped but no penetration - lots of people wrongly think these are not assault.


How is the guy going to know that you don’t want it if you don’t say no.


Unless she clearly says yes, it should not proceed. PERIOD. My friends with boys are teaching their boys this.

If they are drinking to the point of drunk and unable to consent it shoudl not go forward.

Boys aren't animals. It's time we stop treating them like they are not capable of knowing when there is consent.


It’s well past time to stop teaching girls that they can’t use their words. Stop infantilizing women and girls. Don’t teach your daughters that her safety is anyone’s responsibility but her own, for starters.

Gross!!! No I'm sorry, I'm just not going to accept the concept that women have to constantly shoot down advances and if they don't do so aggressively enough for the dumb h*rny male to understand she's giving him a blank check to rape her. Proposition declined. Thank you for illustrating the predatory male entitlement to sex though.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 17:49     Subject: How are you preparing your DD to protect herself?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP above and I forgot to add that I was sexually assaulted multiple times in my late teens and 20s and didn’t even fully understand it was sexual assault until the last time (when I pressed charges and was ready to testify until last-minute plea deal). That’s why I have started so early with DD.


I’m sorry this happened to you.
I’m not really understanding a sexual assault that you “didn’t really understand was sexual assault” until it happened to you several times.
Obviously that sounds horrific. Very confusing though for the guy as well if he also didn’t realize that it was against your will? Just trying to figure out how that is communicated after the fact so that he is also aware that you now realize it was sexual assault.


I am not PP but a lot of people think it isn't assault if it isn't violent rape. Too drunk to consent, froze up, groped but no penetration - lots of people wrongly think these are not assault.


How is the guy going to know that you don’t want it if you don’t say no.

Follow the rules of kindergarten and keep your hands to yourself.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 17:49     Subject: How are you preparing your DD to protect herself?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP above and I forgot to add that I was sexually assaulted multiple times in my late teens and 20s and didn’t even fully understand it was sexual assault until the last time (when I pressed charges and was ready to testify until last-minute plea deal). That’s why I have started so early with DD.


I’m sorry this happened to you.
I’m not really understanding a sexual assault that you “didn’t really understand was sexual assault” until it happened to you several times.
Obviously that sounds horrific. Very confusing though for the guy as well if he also didn’t realize that it was against your will? Just trying to figure out how that is communicated after the fact so that he is also aware that you now realize it was sexual assault.

This is a weird expectation to put on a victim.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 17:43     Subject: How are you preparing your DD to protect herself?

The truth of the matter is alot of men are predatory. There was an anonymous survey of undergrads and about a 1/3 of them admitted they would "force a woman to have sex". When it was called rape the number dropped to 20%.

Another eye opening concept is that short leaving DNA evidence PLUS being dumb enough to record it or physically beat you and leave marks, it is almost impossible to secure a rape conviction. If you have ever once voluntarily had sex with a man it is almost impossible to have him charged with rape. If you have ever been deemed to have made a false report, all future men basically have a blank check to rape you. Even if the police take you seriously and charge the man, the court process is unpleasant and the defence is often allowed to pick apart your sexual history.

There's also the issue of alcohol.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 17:36     Subject: How are you preparing your DD to protect herself?

Anonymous wrote:Unwanted sexual attention has NOTHING to do with attractiveness. It’s about power. Men aren’t out there thinking “gee, if I honk and yell obscenities, she’ll go on a date with me.” The point is to objectify, humiliate, and intimidate.

They do it because women exist in public. They do it because women exist in the workplace. They do it because women exist in school. They do it because a woman looks vulnerable or isolated, and they know they can get away with it. They do it because a woman looks strong and confident, and the man wants to take them down a peg.

Eight year olds or ninety year olds, miniskirts or sweatpants, high heels or combat boots, tall or short, skinny or fat, long hair or short, makeup or not - it DOES NOT MATTER what women look like or what they wear. It’s about certain kinds of men being unable to share spaces with women without feeling emasculated. For groups of men, harassing women can serve as a male bonding ritual or a demonstration of social status.

Women who appear to be “owned” by somebody (ie with another man or with children) don’t trigger this resentment, so they’re less likely to be on the receiving end of harassment.

For women, this is the environment we swim in. Some aren’t aware of it, just as fish aren’t aware of water.


This is so very well said. I appreciate so many of the comments here that articulate so clearly what I and others have experienced.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 16:27     Subject: Re:How are you preparing your DD to protect herself?

Anonymous wrote:I'm a 52 year old mom of two daughters 18 and 20.

None of us have ever had to deal with sexual harassment. Calm down.

LOL, you're probably a man who is pearl clutching at the reality women live in.

15% of women in America are raped.
More than half of all women experience sexual violence.
Over 80% of women have experienced sexual harassment.
I could go on and on...
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 16:26     Subject: How are you preparing your DD to protect herself?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP above and I forgot to add that I was sexually assaulted multiple times in my late teens and 20s and didn’t even fully understand it was sexual assault until the last time (when I pressed charges and was ready to testify until last-minute plea deal). That’s why I have started so early with DD.


I’m sorry this happened to you.
I’m not really understanding a sexual assault that you “didn’t really understand was sexual assault” until it happened to you several times.
Obviously that sounds horrific. Very confusing though for the guy as well if he also didn’t realize that it was against your will? Just trying to figure out how that is communicated after the fact so that he is also aware that you now realize it was sexual assault.


I am not PP but a lot of people think it isn't assault if it isn't violent rape. Too drunk to consent, froze up, groped but no penetration - lots of people wrongly think these are not assault.


How is the guy going to know that you don’t want it if you don’t say no.


Unless she clearly says yes, it should not proceed. PERIOD. My friends with boys are teaching their boys this.

If they are drinking to the point of drunk and unable to consent it shoudl not go forward.

Boys aren't animals. It's time we stop treating them like they are not capable of knowing when there is consent.


It’s well past time to stop teaching girls that they can’t use their words. Stop infantilizing women and girls. Don’t teach your daughters that her safety is anyone’s responsibility but her own, for starters.


I think you miss the point.
When someone is groping you, a girl saying "no" is after the act.
Consent is asking first.
Both things can exist together.