Anonymous wrote:Has anyone considered that Elon will never be a part of fed gov because he'll choose not to divest, which he would have to do?

DOGE will be a nonprofit that advises the government for a fee. Its not like he needs hard data to make decisions, its just knives out?

Has anyone considered that Elon will never be a part of fed gov because he'll choose not to divest, which he would have to do?

Anonymous wrote:They just have so many fundamental misunderstandings (or intentional deceptions) about the bureaucracy and administrative state I don’t know where to begin.

+100. This latest thing about "unauthorized" program spending is so misleading. Money does not fall out of the sky, Congress appropriates it for a specific, stated purpose and everyone understands that the appropriation means Congress intends the program to continue.

Also, how do we get media to stop calling DOGE a department? It is not a government agency. In theory a new agency could be created next year, but you will knock me over with a feather if that actually happens.

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Anonymous wrote:They will have the last laugh and some of you will be joining the unemployed line.

Or move on to jobs that pay better

If there are jobs that pay better for which you’re qualified, why are you in the federal government in the first place? I’m not trying to snarky- this is an honest question.

Like most Feds, I started off in the private sector. I really didn't like the uncertainty: it was worth a large pay cut, to me, to gain some stability and not constantly be scrabbling for the next client.

When I left private the first time, I took a 60% pay cut and gave up the ability to own stock. The pay difference going back wouldn't be as stark because I earn more today, but I could still find a job paying at least 150% of what I make now, probably with better perks. Would it be hard and unpleasant? Sure, but I'd do it.

What I don't think the haters realize is how their jobs will be affected by a job market that's suddenly awash with smart, experienced people who are used to working for considerably less than the market rate. Good luck keeping your job in that environment.

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Anonymous wrote:They will have the last laugh and some of you will be joining the unemployed line.

Or move on to jobs that pay better

If there are jobs that pay better for which you’re qualified, why are you in the federal government in the first place? I’m not trying to snarky- this is an honest question.

The mission, better benefits and job security (as one gets older, this becomes more important), better work environment.

I came to the federal government about 2 years ago from the private sector. Before then, I spent 10+ years in the private sector at a classic GE-style rank+yank company. I am far more productive now than I was in the private sector, simply because I'm not wasting energy and time watching my back all the time.

IME, private sector firing based on "performance" is often more politics than actual performance - I was always amazed at the incompetents who managed to survive by taking credit for the work of others, while good workers who were naive and trusting were pushed out. Working there always was a difficult balance of doing good work while dancing around internal political minefields.

Now, in the government, I have job security and the confidence that comes from knowing that nobody is trying to backstab me and push me out so that they can add my responsibilities to their portfolio and hire one of their cronies for my open slot. I can just do my work and collaborate with others.

I understand the argument that the job security one has in the federal government after probation leads to some people who are simply warming chairs but can't be terminated. But I have yet to encounter one of those people. Everyone I work with a) cares about the mission, b) works very hard, and c) is not wasting any time trying to undercut another person to bump themselves up in the rankings. And I believe that work environment is a direct result of federal job security.

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Anonymous wrote:They will have the last laugh and some of you will be joining the unemployed line.

Or move on to jobs that pay better

If there are jobs that pay better for which you’re qualified, why are you in the federal government in the first place? I’m not trying to snarky- this is an honest question.

NP - I am an engineer and could definitely get employed elsewhere for more $$$. However, I truly believe in the mission of my agency and that it is for the good of the country. I don’t love living in the DMV but like believing in what I do as opposed to helping some company or exec board profit.

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Anonymous wrote:They will have the last laugh and some of you will be joining the unemployed line.

Or move on to jobs that pay better

If there are jobs that pay better for which you’re qualified, why are you in the federal government in the first place? I’m not trying to snarky- this is an honest question.

Many considerations that vary by individual. Sometimes it is a dual career decision. Sometimes it is better work-life balance. Sometimes it is the work environment has an actual HR and you can't actually do shitty things.

A lot of people are also interested in the mission.

In short, you don’t work much and you want a job that protects you while you slack off.

I welcome DOGE.

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Anonymous wrote:they have no power.

I will just point and laugh. DOGE is a joke anyway.

DOGE or no DOGE they are coming for your jobs. And some of you will be unemployed. If anyone thinks this time around they will leave the federal workforce intact then you are not paying attention to their determination.

Sure, but what do you want me to do? Preemptively leave? I will make them go through the hoops of firing me, at least.

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Anonymous wrote:They will have the last laugh and some of you will be joining the unemployed line.

Or move on to jobs that pay better

If there are jobs that pay better for which you’re qualified, why are you in the federal government in the first place? I’m not trying to snarky- this is an honest question.

Many considerations that vary by individual. Sometimes it is a dual career decision. Sometimes it is better work-life balance. Sometimes it is the work environment has an actual HR and you can't actually do shitty things.

A lot of people are also interested in the mission.

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Anonymous wrote:They will have the last laugh and some of you will be joining the unemployed line.

Or move on to jobs that pay better

If there are jobs that pay better for which you’re qualified, why are you in the federal government in the first place? I’m not trying to snarky- this is an honest question.

Not PP, but because I believe in the mission of the work and public service. Something sounds like you would never understand.

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Anonymous wrote:They will have the last laugh and some of you will be joining the unemployed line.

Or move on to jobs that pay better

If there are jobs that pay better for which you’re qualified, why are you in the federal government in the first place? I’m not trying to snarky- this is an honest question.

Anonymous wrote:Have you seen Vivek’s idea about firing feds based on the last number of their ssn? Gold, pure gold.

lol I’d actually be part of the 25% of Feds who keep their job

Anonymous wrote:Have you seen Vivek’s idea about firing feds based on the last number of their ssn? Gold, pure gold.

So efficient! much thought leader. so 80/20.

Have you seen Vivek’s idea about firing feds based on the last number of their ssn? Gold, pure gold.

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Anonymous wrote:they have no power.

I will just point and laugh. DOGE is a joke anyway.

DOGE or no DOGE they are coming for your jobs. And some of you will be unemployed. If anyone thinks this time around they will leave the federal workforce intact then you are not paying attention to their determination.

uh yeah ok. so scared.

Not scared of course not maga is the dumbest cult ever

Trump has already said what he will do
Middle income taxes just went up $7000 a year tariffs will be a tax on the consumer
Fed gov gone
SS and Medicare and health insurance gone.

Martial law coming women losing jobs to men for sure
Head of household
Praying everywhere

Maga cult of stupidity not freedom

To cap it off illness rotting children dying in droves maternity homes run by RW religious nuts

Was your choice the gulag or typing on DCUM?

Thank you for your service, comrade.