Anonymous wrote:I’m a Harris voter. I’d support a hybrid approach; we should maintain birthright citizenship, but only for babies born here to women who were here legally at the time of the birth. No documentation for mom, no citizenship for baby. If mom has a documented case for amnesty pending, baby gets full citizenship as a natural born citizen if/when amnesty is granted. No amnesty for mom, no citizenship for baby.

Anonymous wrote:When virtually every other sane first world country doesn't have it? For starters, Spain, the UK, Germany, Switzerland, Italy, France, Greece, Australia, Japan, Singapore, China, Colombia, nor the Czech Republic and any of the many other countries liberals say they're going to move to do not have birth right citizenship.

What Trump is proposing isn't extreme at all, so why is there resistance to enacting common sense reform?

It's also funny too, because as these elections showed, many coming over the border who eventually establish themselves aren't even Democratic voters either, so the Dems may actually seriously want to rethink they're immigration and citizenship policies before they blindly stand up for making it extremely easy for letting in millions of super catholic people who are now showing to be socially conservative and supporters of traditional family values.

There was a time when the 14th amendment served a purpose, but it is the year 2024.

Birthright citizenship is now much more of a security liability than anything.

Why shouldn't we end it when most of the countries liberals espouse and hold up as role models don't even have it?

Anonymous wrote:Why does it have to be eliminated?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Harris voter. I’d support a hybrid approach; we should maintain birthright citizenship, but only for babies born here to women who were here legally at the time of the birth. No documentation for mom, no citizenship for baby. If mom has a documented case for amnesty pending, baby gets full citizenship as a natural born citizen if/when amnesty is granted. No amnesty for mom, no citizenship for baby.

There are thousands of moms here legally on a tourist visa coming to visit and oops having the baby while they are here. A bunch of Chineses, Russians, Brazilians having babies in Miami, Pakistanis coming, having their babies and going back to their country. I mean…it is not possible people don’t see it as a huge problem.

I thought the problems that Republicans have with illegal immigration are 1) criminals coming here and 2) poor people coming here and costing taxpayers money and 3) immigrants taking jobs from our citizens. Birth tourism doesn’t involve any of those.

Birth tourism and sponsoring 20+ family members to pull in during their retirement to leech off our systems is indeed one of the perverse behaviors our Citizenship by Birth clause creates in this modern day and age.

But in that example, the problem is allowing an anchor baby or new citizens to sponsor 20+ family members, not the one baby who was born here.

Anonymous wrote:It’s in the Constitution. If people want it changed, then they need to change the Constitution.

Anonymous wrote:So my paternal grandparents came in thru Ellis Island. My father was born here. Is he not supposed to have had birthright citizenship in 1912? So then I am an alien too?
Oh, fortunately my maternal gggg-grandfather and ggg-garandfather fought in the American Revolution. Best carry my DAR card, huh!

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Anonymous wrote:In an age when traveling to/from the United States was a major ordeal and impediment to abuse, perhaps birthright citizenship made sense.

The majority of the country does not believe that hopping on a flight from Beijing to Los Angeles, or driving across the border, while pregnant so you can get automatic "birthright" citizenship for your child, is a rational policy.

Citizenship bestows privileged and why should they be given to just anyone whose parents just show up here to give birth?

Go to Del Rio, TX and ask why there is an ambulance every 2 miles along the border.

Because pregnant illegals IN LABOR throw themselves across the border and demand to be taken to the Del Rio Hospitale. And they are. Ka Ching!

Do you actually believe your lies?

Anonymous wrote:The underlying context that no one wants to talk about is that Trump only wants to eliminate this for Latinos. He's not going to turn away white people.

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Anonymous wrote:In an age when traveling to/from the United States was a major ordeal and impediment to abuse, perhaps birthright citizenship made sense.

The majority of the country does not believe that hopping on a flight from Beijing to Los Angeles, or driving across the border, while pregnant so you can get automatic "birthright" citizenship for your child, is a rational policy.

Citizenship bestows privileged and why should they be given to just anyone whose parents just show up here to give birth?

Go to Del Rio, TX and ask why there is an ambulance every 2 miles along the border.

Because pregnant illegals IN LABOR throw themselves across the border and demand to be taken to the Del Rio Hospitale. And they are. Ka Ching!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Harris voter. I’d support a hybrid approach; we should maintain birthright citizenship, but only for babies born here to women who were here legally at the time of the birth. No documentation for mom, no citizenship for baby. If mom has a documented case for amnesty pending, baby gets full citizenship as a natural born citizen if/when amnesty is granted. No amnesty for mom, no citizenship for baby.

There are thousands of moms here legally on a tourist visa coming to visit and oops having the baby while they are here. A bunch of Chineses, Russians, Brazilians having babies in Miami, Pakistanis coming, having their babies and going back to their country. I mean…it is not possible people don’t see it as a huge problem.

While we all focus on the mainland, I read somewhere that American Samoa is crawling with chinese tourists who show up there just to give birth. Also helps that chinese dominate the economy there and provide a bunch of jobs.

Oh dear!

Let’s let that continue all over the mainland so the chinese can have jobs in Samoa in the USA citizenship baby factory.

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Anonymous wrote:When virtually every other sane first world country doesn't have it? For starters, Spain, the UK, Germany, Switzerland, Italy, France, Greece, Australia, Japan, Singapore, China, Colombia, nor the Czech Republic and any of the many other countries liberals say they're going to move to do not have birth right citizenship. What Trump is proposing isn't extreme at all, so why is there resistance to enacting common sense reform? It's also funny too, because as these elections showed, many coming over the border who eventually establish themselves aren't even Democratic voters either, so the Dems may actually seriously want to rethink they're immigration and citizenship policies before they blindly stand up for making it extremely easy for letting in millions of super catholic people who are now showing to be socially conservative and supporters of traditional family values. There was a time when the 14th amendment served a purpose, but it is the year 2024. Birthright citizenship is now much more of a security liability than anything. Why shouldn't we end it when most of the countries liberals espouse and hold up as role models don't even have it?

NP. I think birthright citizenship is what has caused this country to become the massive economic engine it is. None of the countries you list has the economic productivity that the US does.

I’m actually fine with socially conservative immigrants voting. Voting is good overall, in the long term. People with a citizenship stake become more productive and after a few generations, they assimilate.

No they don’t. Not the unskilled, uneducated, illiterate ones who stay that way. Not even with “a few generations” of teen births.

Clueless. You don't even realize who are the less productive people here.