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Anonymous wrote:UC Merced up to #58. Will be top 50 by next year.

93% acceptance rate, 9% yield!!!

Get in while you can!

It's time to rank privates and publics separately.

They do have a separate ranking for publics:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public

Private only

1 Princeton
2 MIT
3 Havard
4 Standford
5 Yale
6 Caltech,Duke,JHU,Northwestern
7 Upenn
8 Cornell,Uchicago
9 Brown,Columbia,
10 Dartmouth
11 Rice,NortreDame, Vanderbilt
12 CMU,WashU
13 Emory, GEORGETOWN
14 USC
15 NYU
16 Boston College,Tufts
17 Boston University
18 University of Rochester
19 Lehigh,WakeForest
20 Case Western

This is stupid

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Anonymous wrote:UC Merced up to #58. Will be top 50 by next year.

93% acceptance rate, 9% yield!!!

Get in while you can!

It's time to rank privates and publics separately.

They do have a separate ranking for publics:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public

Private only

1 Princeton
2 MIT
3 Havard
4 Standford
5 Yale
6 Caltech,Duke,JHU,Northwestern
7 Upenn
8 Cornell,Uchicago
9 Brown,Columbia,
10 Dartmouth
11 Rice,NortreDame, Vanderbilt
12 CMU,WashU
13 Emory, GEORGETOWN
14 USC
15 NYU
16 Boston College,Tufts
17 Boston University
18 University of Rochester
19 Lehigh,WakeForest
20 Case Western

This is stupid

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary behing Virginia Tech.

This is what high school counselors have been saying for years.

No they haven't.

Not shocking VT is ranked higher when they play affirmative action with first gens

What school doesn't? At least they're transparent about it.
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Not on the level VA tech does. They want 40% of the student body to be FGLI. Seems middle class gets no financial aid as a result of that. Makes US news happy, not so much the average Virginian who can't afford 40K COA on a 100k income

Again: that is no longer part of the criteria they use for ranking. Move along.

Did you even read the methodology? They replaced first gen factors with Pell grant factors. Still weighted as heavily as last year. These factors only reflect social mobility, not educational experience for all. USN&WR remain irrelevant for most DCUM users whose kids are not in need of social mobility.

My kids could use some mobility.

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So could mine! I love how the PP deigns to speak for everyone.

Nope, I said MOST DCUM users aren’t focused on social mobility. DCUM has one of the wealthiest, most educated user bases out there. They’re looking for educational quality, not admission and performance of low income students. So these rankings are irrelevant to those users, yet people don’t read the methodology and treat it as some sort of holy grail.

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary behing Virginia Tech.

This is what high school counselors have been saying for years.

No they haven't.

Not shocking VT is ranked higher when they play affirmative action with first gens

What school doesn't? At least they're transparent about it.
DP

Not on the level VA tech does. They want 40% of the student body to be FGLI. Seems middle class gets no financial aid as a result of that. Makes US news happy, not so much the average Virginian who can't afford 40K COA on a 100k income

Again: that is no longer part of the criteria they use for ranking. Move along.

Did you even read the methodology? They replaced first gen factors with Pell grant factors. Still weighted as heavily as last year. These factors only reflect social mobility, not educational experience for all. USN&WR remain irrelevant for most DCUM users whose kids are not in need of social mobility.

My kids could use some mobility.

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So could mine! I love how the PP deigns to speak for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
4. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech, Duke, JHU, Northwestern
10. UPenn
11. Cornell, UChicago
13. Brown, Columbia
15. Dartmouth, UCLA
17. Berkeley
18. Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt
21. CMU, UMich, WashU
24. Emory, Georgetown, UVA
27. UNC, USC
29. UCSD
30. NYU UF UT Austin
33. Georgia Tech, UC Davis, UC Irvine, UIUC
37. BC, Tufts
39. UCSB, UW Madison

Not a terrible ranking, though UCLA seems high.

#1 Public 8 or 9 years in a row, more applications than any other school (public or private), and top rankings in a blizzard of key areas of evaluation.

#15 seems reasonable.

I guess in my head I'm always subconsciously ranking by student quality.

Which means Berkeley should be the highest public by a mile. And Hopkins is not top 10, and falls below Berkeley. And MIT is first. And Cornell goes back to being the bottom ivy, around 15-16 overall.

what? the average berkeley student is weak compared to hopkins and cornell

The average Hopkins student would get eaten alive at Berkeley.

maybe by homeless. hopkins academics are no joke. but then again, that’s why so many from california choose to leave berkeley to out of state including hopkins

What are you talking about? Berkeley is next to THE tech hotspot. What hopkins kid is eager to stay in Baltimore?

give it a rest. there are more hopkins alum per capita in fang than berkeley.

Berkeley also has how many times the amount of academic programs and offerings as hopkins...?

how many of your students graduate in 4 years? what’s your average class size?
average salary?

all higher at hopkins. nice job trying to do higher perception by association however. no one bats their eye when hopkins is top 10 but berkeley this high is off

Anonymous wrote:also 17 is generous. berkeley is a shithole for undergrad

Anonymous wrote:Laughing at the rankings of the privates that DCUM parents whose kids go to private high schools drool over. Northeastern in the 50s, Tulane in the 70s ha ha. And Kenyon ranked 45th among liberal arts colleges. They’re all second tier at best, yet these parents insist they’re the next Harvard!

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Anonymous wrote:Where is the link for the newest report? My browser is only directing me to the old one and a current article about it. Thanks!

For those who want the link:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
4. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech, Duke, JHU, Northwestern
10. UPenn
11. Cornell, UChicago
13. Brown, Columbia
15. Dartmouth, UCLA
17. Berkeley
18. Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt
21. CMU, UMich, WashU
24. Emory, Georgetown, UVA
27. UNC, USC
29. UCSD
30. NYU UF UT Austin
33. Georgia Tech, UC Davis, UC Irvine, UIUC
37. BC, Tufts
39. UCSB, UW Madison

Anonymous wrote:Where is the link for the newest report? My browser is only directing me to the old one and a current article about it. Thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:Laughing at the rankings of the privates that DCUM parents whose kids go to private high schools drool over. Northeastern in the 50s, Tulane in the 70s ha ha. And Kenyon ranked 45th among liberal arts colleges. They’re all second tier at best, yet these parents insist they’re the next Harvard!

People choosing Northeastern don't believe in a magazine ranking like Bible like you.

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Anonymous wrote:UC Merced up to #58. Will be top 50 by next year.

93% acceptance rate, 9% yield!!!

Get in while you can!

It's time to rank privates and publics separately.

They do have a separate ranking for publics:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public

Private only

1 Princeton
2 MIT
3 Havard
4 Standford
5 Yale
6 Caltech,Duke,JHU,Northwestern
7 Upenn
8 Cornell,Uchicago
9 Brown,Columbia,
10 Dartmouth
11 Rice,NortreDame, Vanderbilt
12 CMU,WashU
13 Emory, GEORGETOWN
14 USC
15 NYU
16 Boston College,Tufts
17 Boston University
18 University of Rochester
19 Lehigh,WakeForest
20 Case Western