Anonymous
09/21/2024 11:09
Subject: Re:APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.
No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.
Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.
No, it's bell to bell.
Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.
To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.
what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?
They unlock their phone on their way out of the building. They lock it up again upon their return.
Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? The phones are not locked up in a safe in the main office - they stay with the kids the entire time and are locked and unlocked upon entry and exit.
Are you sure? Because the governor says bell to bell.
The governor hasn't established a rule. Only state dept of education guidance. It is not legally binding.
Dems in the state house are introducing legislation to make it so; but for now, bell-to-bell is not required.
do you have a link to the proposed legislation?
Google it, not that hard
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/09/19/virginia-school-cellphone-bill/
https://realradio804.com/va-senate-dems-propose-school-cellphone-restriction-bill-with-more-exceptions/
https://richmond.com/news/state-regional/education/virginia-senate-cellphones-schools-youngkin-surovell-hashmi-vanvalkenburg/article_84642bc8-76ca-11ef-b72d-4bf3c97943da.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/Virginia/comments/1flce4n/virginia_democrats_introduce_bill_to_restrict/
Does this help?
Anonymous
09/21/2024 11:05
Subject: Re:APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.
No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.
Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.
No, it's bell to bell.
Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.
To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.
what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?
They unlock their phone on their way out of the building. They lock it up again upon their return.
Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? The phones are not locked up in a safe in the main office - they stay with the kids the entire time and are locked and unlocked upon entry and exit.
Are you sure? Because the governor says bell to bell.
The governor hasn't established a rule. Only state dept of education guidance. It is not legally binding.
Dems in the state house are introducing legislation to make it so; but for now, bell-to-bell is not required.
do you have a link to the proposed legislation?
Not right off. If you're on AEM FB page, it was posted there. Also an article in the Post, I believe.
but the legislature isn't even in session?!
And so they can't be working on a proposal to introduce?
Anonymous
09/21/2024 07:22
Subject: APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions
Anonymous wrote:My kid is forgetful. Very. I give it fewer than 2 months before the pouch comes home locked for a weekend. We use the phone for tracking since the bus stop is so far away. Will my tracking device work while the phone is in the pouch?
Questions; Why didn't APS get cell phone lockers for every homeroom? That way the kid would have to go get it but it wouldn't be locked in some impenetrable bag.
What kind of magnet do I need at home for when this thing comes home locked. Can I buy a Yondr one?
No google where you live?
https://digestfromexperts.com/4997/5-yondr-pouch-hacks-how-to-open/
Anonymous
09/21/2024 07:14
Subject: Re:APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.
No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.
Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.
No, it's bell to bell.
Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.
To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.
what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?
They unlock their phone on their way out of the building. They lock it up again upon their return.
Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? The phones are not locked up in a safe in the main office - they stay with the kids the entire time and are locked and unlocked upon entry and exit.
where are you getting this from? are you at a school with a pouch pilot? which school?
Wakefield.
NP and Wakefield parent. The principal answered this question and explained exactly how this was going to work for kids leaving campus to lunch or the Career Center.
Anonymous
09/20/2024 21:45
Subject: Re:APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.
No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.
Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.
No, it's bell to bell.
Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.
To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.
what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?
They unlock their phone on their way out of the building. They lock it up again upon their return.
Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? The phones are not locked up in a safe in the main office - they stay with the kids the entire time and are locked and unlocked upon entry and exit.
where are you getting this from? are you at a school with a pouch pilot? which school?
We started today at Swanson. First week will be slightly (by minutes) staggered departures from class at the end of the day to unlock and buses are held until all students have made it on. Arrival was a little clunky at first but by 7:30 (10 minutes after students are allowed into the building) things were relatively seamless. Within a week it’ll be routine. I saw less than five pouches during the day and my students didn’t bring them up at all.
Anonymous
09/20/2024 17:12
Subject: Re:APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.
No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.
Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.
No, it's bell to bell.
Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.
To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.
what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?
They unlock their phone on their way out of the building. They lock it up again upon their return.
Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? The phones are not locked up in a safe in the main office - they stay with the kids the entire time and are locked and unlocked upon entry and exit.
Are you sure? Because the governor says bell to bell.
The governor hasn't established a rule. Only state dept of education guidance. It is not legally binding.
Dems in the state house are introducing legislation to make it so; but for now, bell-to-bell is not required.
do you have a link to the proposed legislation?
Google it, not that hard
Anonymous
09/20/2024 17:12
Subject: Re:APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.
No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.
Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.
No, it's bell to bell.
Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.
To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.
what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?
They unlock their phone on their way out of the building. They lock it up again upon their return.
Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? The phones are not locked up in a safe in the main office - they stay with the kids the entire time and are locked and unlocked upon entry and exit.
Are you sure? Because the governor says bell to bell.
The governor hasn't established a rule. Only state dept of education guidance. It is not legally binding.
Dems in the state house are introducing legislation to make it so; but for now, bell-to-bell is not required.
do you have a link to the proposed legislation?
Not right off. If you're on AEM FB page, it was posted there. Also an article in the Post, I believe.
but the legislature isn't even in session?!
Anonymous
09/20/2024 17:09
Subject: Re:APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.
No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.
Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.
No, it's bell to bell.
Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.
To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.
what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?
They unlock their phone on their way out of the building. They lock it up again upon their return.
Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? The phones are not locked up in a safe in the main office - they stay with the kids the entire time and are locked and unlocked upon entry and exit.
How do 2000 kids unlock their phone on the way out of the building without missing the bus? How many unlocking stations are there?
Just get your kid their own magnet. Problem solved. https://www.amazon.com/LOVIMAG-Neodymium-Magnets-Earth-Magnet/dp/B09ZJZTDKN/ref=sr_1_3?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Y4IN7WpFRtILvq3C9dB85eVJme8R8_AaNH9pcnTC2zoRzgbRPRFPQ6BaN4s2KqGSBOO1Lzex9DNkXJGHwxx3uQI_kv5pLUKcHzpaWCl8UxQiTKlGyW1KPH1y7AgpWCAPPjnnU--O3nhwSrejxbxeHz6WxIV3zN4kaDRfQA4tw8RHckIJiv7u0QQOJ1s2FnY37LVaRVqsrawGe_WV-VUETIQdHBkfwUZ0pi7jBaU4cKE.kSRWaQfbUiWPpUi2C-NJTE7ve6VRihnqLOEqDqpgwck&dib_tag=se&keywords=yondr%2Bpouch%2Bmagnet&qid=1726866490&sr=8-3&th=1
Anonymous
09/20/2024 16:59
Subject: Re:APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.
No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.
Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.
No, it's bell to bell.
Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.
To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.
what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?
They unlock their phone on their way out of the building. They lock it up again upon their return.
Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? The phones are not locked up in a safe in the main office - they stay with the kids the entire time and are locked and unlocked upon entry and exit.
Are you sure? Because the governor says bell to bell.
The governor hasn't established a rule. Only state dept of education guidance. It is not legally binding.
Dems in the state house are introducing legislation to make it so; but for now, bell-to-bell is not required.
do you have a link to the proposed legislation?
Not right off. If you're on AEM FB page, it was posted there. Also an article in the Post, I believe.
Anonymous
09/20/2024 16:58
Subject: Re:APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.
No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.
Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.
No, it's bell to bell.
Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.
To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.
what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?
They unlock their phone on their way out of the building. They lock it up again upon their return.
Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? The phones are not locked up in a safe in the main office - they stay with the kids the entire time and are locked and unlocked upon entry and exit.
where are you getting this from? are you at a school with a pouch pilot? which school?
Wakefield.
Anonymous
09/20/2024 16:56
Subject: Re:APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.
No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.
Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.
No, it's bell to bell.
Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.
To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.
what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?
They unlock their phone on their way out of the building. They lock it up again upon their return.
Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? The phones are not locked up in a safe in the main office - they stay with the kids the entire time and are locked and unlocked upon entry and exit.
Are you sure? Because the governor says bell to bell.
The governor hasn't established a rule. Only state dept of education guidance. It is not legally binding.
Dems in the state house are introducing legislation to make it so; but for now, bell-to-bell is not required.
do you have a link to the proposed legislation?
Anonymous
09/20/2024 16:56
Subject: Re:APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.
No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.
Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.
No, it's bell to bell.
Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.
To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.
what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?
They unlock their phone on their way out of the building. They lock it up again upon their return.
Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? The phones are not locked up in a safe in the main office - they stay with the kids the entire time and are locked and unlocked upon entry and exit.
where are you getting this from? are you at a school with a pouch pilot? which school?
Anonymous
09/20/2024 16:51
Subject: APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No parent that I've spoken to in person is in favor of this pouch nonsense. I sometimes wonder who is on the other side of the screen in here.
It’s a trial between the pouch schools and the no pouch schools. If the students in the no pouch schools can keep their phones away just as well this year APS can go that route.
From what I’m hearing from teachers, the no pouch schools are doing great.
If by doing great you mean the teachers don’t enforce anything, then yes doing great.
No, that's not at all what I mean.
What middle school is your kid at where the phones are away all day no problem? Curious.
High school. There you go. A lot changes between 7th and 12th grade.
No one is talking about high school. I have a kid in high school and middle school. I’m aware of the changes between middle school and high school. In the middle schools it is not “going great”.
Then why is the pouch pilot at Wakefield a HIGH school? And plenty of parents are calling for all day bans in HIGH school.
this thread started about a middle school kid and nearly all replies have been for that age group. I wish someone would chime in about how things are working at wakefield
It hasn't started at Wakefield yet. Pouches will be given out this coming week. So give it a few weeks.
Anonymous
09/20/2024 16:49
Subject: Re:APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.
No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.
Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.
No, it's bell to bell.
Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.
To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.
what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?
Kids unlock phones when they leave campus, whether that’s for lunch, career center, or end of day.
so then it's not really bell to bell?
Read all about it here
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/Home/Components/News/News/411/227
Please point out the part where they account for off campus or things like the career center. i don't see it.
THIS IS NOT STATE POLICY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT IS APS POLICY.
If you're at a school with the pouch program, you have and will receive information indicating how it will work, including that students can unlock their phones upon departing the building.
Anonymous
09/20/2024 16:47
Subject: Re:APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.
No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.
Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.
No, it's bell to bell.
Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.
To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.
what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?
They unlock their phone on their way out of the building. They lock it up again upon their return.
Why is this so hard for so many people to understand? The phones are not locked up in a safe in the main office - they stay with the kids the entire time and are locked and unlocked upon entry and exit.
Are you sure? Because the governor says bell to bell.
The governor hasn't established a rule. Only state dept of education guidance. It is not legally binding.
Dems in the state house are introducing legislation to make it so; but for now, bell-to-bell is not required.