Anonymous
Post 08/26/2024 11:43     Subject: Parvovirus etc as school starts
Anonymous wrote:But that's not how we approach any other risk in daily life. We don't attempt to "minimize risk." Instead we approach it from a cost/benefit perspective. That is, we don't take steps that are more costly/disruptive/unpleasant than the risk we're thinking of. e.g., is it worth it to wear masks to get covid slightly less often? The vast majority of people would say no.

Really? We don't minimize risk by, say, buckling our seatbelts and cleaning our water? There are many mitigations available for airborne illnesses, including, for example, filtering air and opening windows that are perfectly reasonable to expect.


No, we're not "minimizing" those risks. Do you use a 3-point seat belt or a harness in your car? Ever look at water quality standards for public utilities? We accept degrees of risk because it would be too costly or disruptive or minimize them. Some of that comes down to comfort. Do you think you'd get a lot of support for turning off the AC and opening the windows on a day like today?
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2024 11:26     Subject: Parvovirus etc as school starts
But that's not how we approach any other risk in daily life. We don't attempt to "minimize risk." Instead we approach it from a cost/benefit perspective. That is, we don't take steps that are more costly/disruptive/unpleasant than the risk we're thinking of. e.g., is it worth it to wear masks to get covid slightly less often? The vast majority of people would say no.


Really? We don't minimize risk by, say, buckling our seatbelts and cleaning our water? There are many mitigations available for airborne illnesses, including, for example, filtering air and opening windows that are perfectly reasonable to expect.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2024 08:48     Subject: Parvovirus etc as school starts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So fast to jump to "freaking out"? Can't folks have a simple discussion on public health in this society? No wonder that many people died in this country. Shame on all of us.


Nope. Not "post-Covid" we can't. The same people who deal with traumatic assault stories by asking "well, what was she wearing?" psychologically distance themselves from the trauma of surviving a pandemic by pretending that no illness is serious anymore, and that anyone trying to discuss protection protocols is a loon. They project and call people who are still trying to care about preventive measures "Covid crazies".

It's pretty sick.


Thank you, thank you, thank you. COVID deniers are exhausting. Let's face reality and do what we can to minimize risk.


But that's not how we approach any other risk in daily life. We don't attempt to "minimize risk." Instead we approach it from a cost/benefit perspective. That is, we don't take steps that are more costly/disruptive/unpleasant than the risk we're thinking of. e.g., is it worth it to wear masks to get covid slightly less often? The vast majority of people would say no.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2024 08:35     Subject: Parvovirus etc as school starts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So fast to jump to "freaking out"? Can't folks have a simple discussion on public health in this society? No wonder that many people died in this country. Shame on all of us.


Nope. Not "post-Covid" we can't. The same people who deal with traumatic assault stories by asking "well, what was she wearing?" psychologically distance themselves from the trauma of surviving a pandemic by pretending that no illness is serious anymore, and that anyone trying to discuss protection protocols is a loon. They project and call people who are still trying to care about preventive measures "Covid crazies".

It's pretty sick.


Thank you, thank you, thank you. COVID deniers are exhausting. Let's face reality and do what we can to minimize risk.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2024 07:57     Subject: Parvovirus etc as school starts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So fast to jump to "freaking out"? Can't folks have a simple discussion on public health in this society? No wonder that many people died in this country. Shame on all of us.


And yet we still see people freaking out. First it was over a glorified cold. And now it is over an incredibly common, mild childhood illness.


A glorified cold? Surely you don’t mean the virus that killed millions and has incapacitated/affected millions more. If you cannot have a legitimate conversation without inserting your bias, please refrain from commenting.


Respiratory illnesses have always killed a small percentage of the elderly and chronically ill. That wasn't unique or new to covid.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2024 07:53     Subject: Parvovirus etc as school starts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So fast to jump to "freaking out"? Can't folks have a simple discussion on public health in this society? No wonder that many people died in this country. Shame on all of us.


Nope. Not "post-Covid" we can't. The same people who deal with traumatic assault stories by asking "well, what was she wearing?" psychologically distance themselves from the trauma of surviving a pandemic by pretending that no illness is serious anymore, and that anyone trying to discuss protection protocols is a loon. They project and call people who are still trying to care about preventive measures "Covid crazies".

It's pretty sick.


My point sticks. Be quiet unless you can speak without denigrating others.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2024 07:35     Subject: Parvovirus etc as school starts
Anonymous wrote:So fast to jump to "freaking out"? Can't folks have a simple discussion on public health in this society? No wonder that many people died in this country. Shame on all of us.


Nope. Not "post-Covid" we can't. The same people who deal with traumatic assault stories by asking "well, what was she wearing?" psychologically distance themselves from the trauma of surviving a pandemic by pretending that no illness is serious anymore, and that anyone trying to discuss protection protocols is a loon. They project and call people who are still trying to care about preventive measures "Covid crazies".

It's pretty sick.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2024 07:34     Subject: Parvovirus etc as school starts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So fast to jump to "freaking out"? Can't folks have a simple discussion on public health in this society? No wonder that many people died in this country. Shame on all of us.


And yet we still see people freaking out. First it was over a glorified cold. And now it is over an incredibly common, mild childhood illness.


A glorified cold? Surely you don’t mean the virus that killed millions and has incapacitated/affected millions more. If you cannot have a legitimate conversation without inserting your bias, please refrain from commenting.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2024 02:18     Subject: Parvovirus etc as school starts
Serious question but is this from dogs? Is this the puppy pox?
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 21:11     Subject: Parvovirus etc as school starts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is not a notifiable condition. Thats all you need to know.


It is for pregnant women. It can absolutely lead to miscarriage and birth defects.


You think the CDC is going to notify pregnant women? Okay.


No I think people should keep their kids home when they present with symptoms of it and notify anyone who is pregnant that has been exposed to their child- that they personally know of- so that the OB can test them and monitor them for complications especially for the 50% of women who arent immune.

If people think its just some silly virus they arent going to take keeping their kid home seriously nor doing the ethical thing of notifying pregnant women who may have been exposed- think teachers, coaches, moms of friends, etc.

By the time the kid gets the rash they aren't contagious anymore. Also, you already had 5th disease as a preschooler. Ask your OB to run titers if you're worried, but, something like 99% of adult American women are immune.





its actually only 50-70% but A-OK and again its mostly pregnant women, immunocompromised and those with hemolytic disorders. we have 2 of the 3 listed in our family right now and they dont test for immunity when you get pregnant so its rolling the dice for pregnant women and it has real implications for fetal health and development and risks of miscarriage or stillbirth.

awareness isnt freaking out. information isnt freaking out. informing others isnt freaking out. you would tell another family if your family had lice right? why wouldnt you do the same for a known virus?
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 20:47     Subject: Parvovirus etc as school starts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nothing is going to change.


Don't ruin the jilling of the MVA mothers imagining another 18 month school closure.


We don't care if your kids are in person and are sick. That's on you. But, we shouldn't be forced to send our kids with people like you out there who are so eager to get rid of their kids they are selfish and send them in sick not caring their kids are miserable or who they make sick. Then, they will come on here complaining the teachers are out sick.


It's parvovirus. It has always been very common. You may have heard it as Fifth Disease before. You're being ridiculous.


+1 the only group I think it matters for is pregnant women
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 20:34     Subject: Parvovirus etc as school starts
Anonymous wrote:So fast to jump to "freaking out"? Can't folks have a simple discussion on public health in this society? No wonder that many people died in this country. Shame on all of us.


And yet we still see people freaking out. First it was over a glorified cold. And now it is over an incredibly common, mild childhood illness.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 19:53     Subject: Parvovirus etc as school starts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is not a notifiable condition. Thats all you need to know.


It is for pregnant women. It can absolutely lead to miscarriage and birth defects.


You think the CDC is going to notify pregnant women? Okay.


No I think people should keep their kids home when they present with symptoms of it and notify anyone who is pregnant that has been exposed to their child- that they personally know of- so that the OB can test them and monitor them for complications especially for the 50% of women who arent immune.

If people think its just some silly virus they arent going to take keeping their kid home seriously nor doing the ethical thing of notifying pregnant women who may have been exposed- think teachers, coaches, moms of friends, etc.

By the time the kid gets the rash they aren't contagious anymore. Also, you already had 5th disease as a preschooler. Ask your OB to run titers if you're worried, but, something like 99% of adult American women are immune.



Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 19:51     Subject: Parvovirus etc as school starts
Hello? Parvo is just 5th Disease. You get it once, as a young kid, and you're done. It barely causes symptoms. That's why no one ever bothered to make a vaccine for it.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 19:43     Subject: Parvovirus etc as school starts
So fast to jump to "freaking out"? Can't folks have a simple discussion on public health in this society? No wonder that many people died in this country. Shame on all of us.