Anonymous
07/13/2024 17:05
Subject: Saving seats on SWA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.
Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.
Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.
Because they have special needs..
Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.
SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.
Preboarding people with disabilities isn’t always about their safety and it isn’t advertised about being for their safety.
And if they waste time with your weird policing the exits policy, to satisfy the weirdly bitter person who had to let a disabled kid get on the plane and stow her O2 before she did, they will have more delays turning over the plane since they have to clean it. People will miss connections, and need to be rebooked at Southwest’s expense. And a flight attendant is standing at the exit to do what? Tell someone to sit down? That delays departure for the whole plane.
Your main character syndrome? Is not relevant to Southwest’s bottom line. Cause you’re still giving them the money.
What difference does it make to the total deboarding time if they are first or last? It doesn't. But everyone else might have connections or reasons to get off first and quicker instead of waiting. There won't be more delays, it just does things in a more orderly way without inconveniencing the whole plane on arrival. These people aren't selfish are they? Surely they wouldn't mind letting others go ahead if they have a connection or have to use the restroom.
On southwest? A huge difference, because they are distributed throughout the plane. So let’s say my daughter and I are sitting in an aisle and middle seat. The person in the window seat isn’t disabled, but we need to let him out, so we have to stand in the aisle, blocking everyone else, but not getting off the plane. Then we have to get back into our seats. We sit close to the front of the plane, so you’re starting your de-boarding process with a delay.
If everyone who pre-boarded was seated at the back of the plane, then having them disembark last would make sense.
So you selfishly take a aisle and middle and some point in the boarding process have to get out of your seats again, to let someone scoot over to the window, thus delaying boarding? Why aren't you in the middle and window yourselves since you care a lot about efficient boarding and boarding processes.
Anonymous
07/13/2024 17:02
Subject: Saving seats on SWA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.
Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.
Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.
Because they have special needs..
Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.
SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.
Preboarding people with disabilities isn’t always about their safety and it isn’t advertised about being for their safety.
And if they waste time with your weird policing the exits policy, to satisfy the weirdly bitter person who had to let a disabled kid get on the plane and stow her O2 before she did, they will have more delays turning over the plane since they have to clean it. People will miss connections, and need to be rebooked at Southwest’s expense. And a flight attendant is standing at the exit to do what? Tell someone to sit down? That delays departure for the whole plane.
Your main character syndrome? Is not relevant to Southwest’s bottom line. Cause you’re still giving them the money.
What difference does it make to the total deboarding time if they are first or last? It doesn't. But everyone else might have connections or reasons to get off first and quicker instead of waiting. There won't be more delays, it just does things in a more orderly way without inconveniencing the whole plane on arrival. These people aren't selfish are they? Surely they wouldn't mind letting others go ahead if they have a connection or have to use the restroom.
On southwest? A huge difference, because they are distributed throughout the plane. So let’s say my daughter and I are sitting in an aisle and middle seat. The person in the window seat isn’t disabled, but we need to let him out, so we have to stand in the aisle, blocking everyone else, but not getting off the plane. Then we have to get back into our seats. We sit close to the front of the plane, so you’re starting your de-boarding process with a delay.
If everyone who pre-boarded was seated at the back of the plane, then having them disembark last would make sense.
So you're selfish and can't let someone out. Got it.
Anonymous
07/13/2024 17:01
Subject: Saving seats on SWA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.
Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.
Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.
Because they have special needs..
Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.
SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.
Preboarding people with disabilities isn’t always about their safety and it isn’t advertised about being for their safety.
And if they waste time with your weird policing the exits policy, to satisfy the weirdly bitter person who had to let a disabled kid get on the plane and stow her O2 before she did, they will have more delays turning over the plane since they have to clean it. People will miss connections, and need to be rebooked at Southwest’s expense. And a flight attendant is standing at the exit to do what? Tell someone to sit down? That delays departure for the whole plane.
Your main character syndrome? Is not relevant to Southwest’s bottom line. Cause you’re still giving them the money.
What difference does it make to the total deboarding time if they are first or last? It doesn't. But everyone else might have connections or reasons to get off first and quicker instead of waiting. There won't be more delays, it just does things in a more orderly way without inconveniencing the whole plane on arrival. These people aren't selfish are they? Surely they wouldn't mind letting others go ahead if they have a connection or have to use the restroom.
On southwest? A huge difference, because they are distributed throughout the plane. So let’s say my daughter and I are sitting in an aisle and middle seat. The person in the window seat isn’t disabled, but we need to let him out, so we have to stand in the aisle, blocking everyone else, but not getting off the plane. Then we have to get back into our seats. We sit close to the front of the plane, so you’re starting your de-boarding process with a delay.
If everyone who pre-boarded was seated at the back of the plane, then having them disembark last would make sense.
Anonymous
07/13/2024 16:57
Subject: Saving seats on SWA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.
Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.
Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.
Because they have special needs..
Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.
SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.
Preboarding people with disabilities isn’t always about their safety and it isn’t advertised about being for their safety.
And if they waste time with your weird policing the exits policy, to satisfy the weirdly bitter person who had to let a disabled kid get on the plane and stow her O2 before she did, they will have more delays turning over the plane since they have to clean it. People will miss connections, and need to be rebooked at Southwest’s expense. And a flight attendant is standing at the exit to do what? Tell someone to sit down? That delays departure for the whole plane.
Your main character syndrome? Is not relevant to Southwest’s bottom line. Cause you’re still giving them the money.
What difference does it make to the total deboarding time if they are first or last? It doesn't. But everyone else might have connections or reasons to get off first and quicker instead of waiting. There won't be more delays, it just does things in a more orderly way without inconveniencing the whole plane on arrival. These people aren't selfish are they? Surely they wouldn't mind letting others go ahead if they have a connection or have to use the restroom.
Anonymous
07/13/2024 16:54
Subject: Saving seats on SWA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.
Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.
Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.
Because they have special needs..
Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.
SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.
Preboarding people with disabilities isn’t always about their safety and it isn’t advertised about being for their safety.
And if they waste time with your weird policing the exits policy, to satisfy the weirdly bitter person who had to let a disabled kid get on the plane and stow her O2 before she did, they will have more delays turning over the plane since they have to clean it. People will miss connections, and need to be rebooked at Southwest’s expense. And a flight attendant is standing at the exit to do what? Tell someone to sit down? That delays departure for the whole plane.
Your main character syndrome? Is not relevant to Southwest’s bottom line. Cause you’re still giving them the money.
I'm not sure why you are struggling so much with the notion that just because YOUR child needs preboarding, that most of the preboarders do NOT need it. Europe has strict documenting requirements for accomodations - the US needs them too.
I have no evidence and none has been presented that “most preboarders” don’t need it. I have lots of evidence that people make vast assumptions about other travelers who don’t “look” disabled enough for them, or who think that people who pre-board should be held to some punitive conditions not applied to anyone else (no bulkheads? Delayed departure?) because of their presumed crime of…getting a seat the angry passenger wasn’t paying for anyway??
Anonymous
07/13/2024 16:00
Subject: Saving seats on SWA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.
Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.
Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.
Because they have special needs..
Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.
SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.
Preboarding people with disabilities isn’t always about their safety and it isn’t advertised about being for their safety.
And if they waste time with your weird policing the exits policy, to satisfy the weirdly bitter person who had to let a disabled kid get on the plane and stow her O2 before she did, they will have more delays turning over the plane since they have to clean it. People will miss connections, and need to be rebooked at Southwest’s expense. And a flight attendant is standing at the exit to do what? Tell someone to sit down? That delays departure for the whole plane.
Your main character syndrome? Is not relevant to Southwest’s bottom line. Cause you’re still giving them the money.
I'm not sure why you are struggling so much with the notion that just because YOUR child needs preboarding, that most of the preboarders do NOT need it. Europe has strict documenting requirements for accomodations - the US needs them too.
Anonymous
07/13/2024 15:24
Subject: Saving seats on SWA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.
Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.
Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.
Because they have special needs..
Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.
SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.
Preboarding people with disabilities isn’t always about their safety and it isn’t advertised about being for their safety.
And if they waste time with your weird policing the exits policy, to satisfy the weirdly bitter person who had to let a disabled kid get on the plane and stow her O2 before she did, they will have more delays turning over the plane since they have to clean it. People will miss connections, and need to be rebooked at Southwest’s expense. And a flight attendant is standing at the exit to do what? Tell someone to sit down? That delays departure for the whole plane.
Your main character syndrome? Is not relevant to Southwest’s bottom line. Cause you’re still giving them the money.
Anonymous
07/13/2024 12:56
Subject: Saving seats on SWA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.
Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.
Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.
Because they have special needs..
Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.
SWA just needs to make sure these people get off last. it's fine to let them board first for their safety and because they need more time. SWA should also ensure their safety by getting them off last so they can take extra time. Safety first.
Anonymous
07/13/2024 12:51
Subject: Saving seats on SWA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.
Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.
Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.
Because they have special needs..
Or they claim to. Plenty fake it and admit doing so.
Anonymous
07/13/2024 12:40
Subject: Saving seats on SWA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.
Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.
Lots of people get preferential treatment on a plane because of their spouse or family members spending more money/having status, or for other reasons they don’t pay for. If this something that truly bothers you, air travel in 2024 is not for you.
No that does not bother me at all. Mom and Dad flying with kid...fine. Eldery/Diabled person and family also fine. Everyone bought a higher fare ticket/spent points...fine. Military also fine. You pay for something for one and take for several more...not fine.
Family member works for the airline and preferential seats are free?
Courtesy upgrade given to the traveling companion of someone with elite status?
I promise you plenty of people being seated before you are not “everyone paying a higher fare”
There's no status on SWA. If you want priority boarding you pay for it if you're not a family, veteran, etc. Or you fake needing a wheelchair to cut to the front when you're none of the above.
Anonymous
07/13/2024 12:12
Subject: Saving seats on SWA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.
Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.
Lots of people get preferential treatment on a plane because of their spouse or family members spending more money/having status, or for other reasons they don’t pay for. If this something that truly bothers you, air travel in 2024 is not for you.
No that does not bother me at all. Mom and Dad flying with kid...fine. Eldery/Diabled person and family also fine. Everyone bought a higher fare ticket/spent points...fine. Military also fine. You pay for something for one and take for several more...not fine.
Family member works for the airline and preferential seats are free?
Courtesy upgrade given to the traveling companion of someone with elite status?
I promise you plenty of people being seated before you are not “everyone paying a higher fare”
Anonymous
07/13/2024 12:10
Subject: Saving seats on SWA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’ve only done it for ourselves and child. So one of us will pay for group A then save 2 seats in our row for spouse and child.
I don’t have an objection to other people doing the same to sit with family.
I hate people like you. “Going you skirt the rules for the convenience of my family and/or myself. I am me and rules don’t apply.”
There is nothing wrong with saving a few seats.
If you all want specific seats (together) why isn’t everyone in the group boarding together?
Parents are entitled to sit with children without paying more for it.
No they’re not. Want to sit together? You pay for it. I don’t care if it’s your kid, spouse or friend. You pay
I’m afraid the Department of Transportation disagrees with you.
https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/airline-family-seating-dashboard
To wit:
A parent who purchases airline tickets for a family should receive a guarantee from the airline that it will seat the parent and child together without fees or a last-minute scramble at the gate or having to ask other passengers to give up their seat to allow the parent and child to sit together.
Anonymous
07/13/2024 11:25
Subject: Saving seats on SWA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’ve only done it for ourselves and child. So one of us will pay for group A then save 2 seats in our row for spouse and child.
I don’t have an objection to other people doing the same to sit with family.
I hate people like you. “Going you skirt the rules for the convenience of my family and/or myself. I am me and rules don’t apply.”
There is nothing wrong with saving a few seats.
If you all want specific seats (together) why isn’t everyone in the group boarding together?
Parents are entitled to sit with children without paying more for it.
No they’re not. Want to sit together? You pay for it. I don’t care if it’s your kid, spouse or friend. You pay
Anonymous
07/13/2024 11:22
Subject: Saving seats on SWA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’ve only done it for ourselves and child. So one of us will pay for group A then save 2 seats in our row for spouse and child.
I don’t have an objection to other people doing the same to sit with family.
You should be paying.for 3 early boardings if that is what you want/need.
This. When my kids were too young to board separately we all boarded together. Now that they are old enough to board alone I board early and if the seat next to me is available when the kids board they can sit there otherwise they sit where they can find a seat. Generally the middle seats are last to go so it’s generally not an issue.
Anonymous
07/13/2024 10:27
Subject: Saving seats on SWA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.
Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.
Lots of people get preferential treatment on a plane because of their spouse or family members spending more money/having status, or for other reasons they don’t pay for. If this something that truly bothers you, air travel in 2024 is not for you.
No that does not bother me at all. Mom and Dad flying with kid...fine. Eldery/Diabled person and family also fine. Everyone bought a higher fare ticket/spent points...fine. Military also fine. You pay for something for one and take for several more...not fine.