Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 19:17     Subject: Re:Do you ever think of how much STUFF you are leaving for your family to deal with?

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Anonymous wrote:One reason we have never stored anything in our attic or expanded our house



You don’t have anything in your attic? We have lots of Christmas decorations and keep sake boxes 1 for each person, and some other random stuff, but it’s all labeled clearly, which I did after purging about the same amount. It would probably take them 2 hours to pull down and sort into take, toss, donate.


DP, but we don't even have an attic. The benefit of this is we have extremely limited Christmas decorations, because there is no storage space for that kind of stuff.


We have an attic with a pull-down ladder and it was Rule #1 when we moved in not to put anything up there after we saw how much the former owners had put up there. It covered the entire living room floor. Better not to have this "out of sight, out of mind" type of storage.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 19:14     Subject: Do you ever think of how much STUFF you are leaving for your family to deal with?

No, OP, it's the last thing we worry about, given there are companies that sort and sell for a fee.
Caring for elderly loves ones it hard enough, especially as it usually comes when caring for children and working on one's marriage are also priorities.

I don't care how much stuff my parents accumulate, as long as they can still live safely in their home. I can get rid of it later. What matters is nurturing relationships and taking care of our health.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 19:11     Subject: Do you ever think of how much STUFF you are leaving for your family to deal with?

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Anonymous wrote:My parents and older relatives have some sick joke that if we’re inheriting all their money we have to deal with cleaning and selling.

It is what it is. I think by 85, people should have their homes parsed down and cleared out. Like spare room closets empty, attic empty, basement empty


Really they should just move into their graves - sleep in a coffin, only wear the thing they want to be buried in.


You're right. Wishing my parents didn't have a garage full of broken car parts is the same as wishing they were dead. You're very smart and not at all a tedious POS.


So help them get rid of that stuff now, or figure out who you're going to have to call when the time comes. What do you want them to do? You think your parents are suddenly going to become completely different people, becuase you're planning for their death?

The entitlement on this thread is astonishing.


What the actual F does the above complaint have to do with "entitlement"???? People throw that label on anything they don't like to read on here.


The people who complain about having to clean out the houses are presumably the ones who are inheriting those houses (otherwise, why bother?)

So, yeah, if someone is giving you a few hundred grands, either put in some elbow grease or share some of that bounty with people who don’t mind rolling up their sleeves. Expecting to get a free house just the way you like it the definition of entitlement.

You are welcome.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 18:35     Subject: Re:Do you ever think of how much STUFF you are leaving for your family to deal with?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One reason we have never stored anything in our attic or expanded our house



You don’t have anything in your attic? We have lots of Christmas decorations and keep sake boxes 1 for each person, and some other random stuff, but it’s all labeled clearly, which I did after purging about the same amount. It would probably take them 2 hours to pull down and sort into take, toss, donate.


DP, but we don't even have an attic. The benefit of this is we have extremely limited Christmas decorations, because there is no storage space for that kind of stuff.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 18:33     Subject: Re:Do you ever think of how much STUFF you are leaving for your family to deal with?

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Anonymous wrote:No more keeping things in case they ever come in handy.

I think this drives a lot of it. People can imagine uses for things, but they don’t think about what they could do if they needed something they gave away.


To be honest, I really have needed many things I initially would have tossed. Yes, I could have bought another once I realized it, but what an incredible waste of money.

Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 18:32     Subject: Do you ever think of how much STUFF you are leaving for your family to deal with?

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Anonymous wrote: They know she didn’t want it all to go to Goodwill or what have you…


Too bad, so sad. If she wanted it to go someplace in particular, she should have done so while she was alive!


Do you not see how two people grieving the recent loss of their mother cannot breezily adopt a “too bad, so sad” attitude and “simply toss,” etc.? THE POINT of this thread is that there is a lot of emotional burden placed on those left behind. No, they can’t just act like a rude, anonymous internet poster…they are living in actual grief.


If it's an old person, you knew their death was coming. Why can't you toss and cry at the same time?
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 18:30     Subject: Do you ever think of how much STUFF you are leaving for your family to deal with?

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Anonymous wrote:One of the reasons we will in a small house is so that we don’t accumulate a lot of stuff. I’m always giving away stuff and do a whole house purge every fall and spring.


What do you purge twice a year?


Mostly kids clothes and toys. But we also go through the entire house twice a year to see if there is anything else we can purge.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 18:27     Subject: Do you ever think of how much STUFF you are leaving for your family to deal with?

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for the note OP.

Any tips for getting rid of stuff if you’re a keeper of “too much” stuff? I especially struggle with old work papers. I’m kinda stuck. When I’m on a flight and turbulence hits; I think heaven forbid I leave my kids to dispose of stupid boxes full of work papers from a job from 15 years ago!! All tips welcome.


Get rid of all of it. Everything you need can be found online.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 18:24     Subject: Do you ever think of how much STUFF you are leaving for your family to deal with?

One of Mom's Haitian American caregivers hauled off eight SUV's full of stuff. It really helped us out.

We cleaned out Mom's home in 3 weeks. It was 4700 square feet. I cleaned out a lot in the 6 years prior.

Have work lists. Review them every day at 4:00 pm for the upcoming days.

Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 18:10     Subject: Do you ever think of how much STUFF you are leaving for your family to deal with?

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I did not mean that the stuff is sadder than her death. That came out wrong. I just meant it is honestly heartbreaking to see them, grief-stricken, also dealing with tons of work, confusion, guilt, and endless labor. They know she didn’t want it all to go to Goodwill or what have you, but they (and the larger family) only want a few things, not everything. There’s just so much.

The weight of the stuff is very, very heavy.


Your cousins should have helped their mother do this when she was alive. Elderly people have a VERY difficult time knowing where to begin. It’s overwhelming, and even emotional. At the end of the day, even after giving away things, you’re still going to have a lot left - furniture, clothes, cookware, cleaning supplies, luggage, decorations, linens, rugs, lamps, books, art, decor, fans, gardening supplies, container plants and patio furniture, make up and toiletries, medicines, and all the other garbage that’s found in a home, even a pared down home.


You can only do this if they actually are willing to part with their stuff.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 18:09     Subject: Do you ever think of how much STUFF you are leaving for your family to deal with?

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Anonymous wrote:My parents and older relatives have some sick joke that if we’re inheriting all their money we have to deal with cleaning and selling.

It is what it is. I think by 85, people should have their homes parsed down and cleared out. Like spare room closets empty, attic empty, basement empty


Really they should just move into their graves - sleep in a coffin, only wear the thing they want to be buried in.


You're right. Wishing my parents didn't have a garage full of broken car parts is the same as wishing they were dead. You're very smart and not at all a tedious POS.


So help them get rid of that stuff now, or figure out who you're going to have to call when the time comes. What do you want them to do? You think your parents are suddenly going to become completely different people, becuase you're planning for their death?

The entitlement on this thread is astonishing.


What the actual F does the above complaint have to do with "entitlement"???? People throw that label on anything they don't like to read on here.


If anything sitting on a pile of crap you don't need and expecting other people to deal with it is entitled. It's also wasteful. All the crap my parents refuse to deal with might have been useful to someone 20 years ago but they can't part with it, so now it's garbage. Fortunately I've learned not to be like them.


Yes, yes, I am 100% entitled to keep my own stuff and do what I want with it while I'm alive, do go on.

And you're entitled to throw out your own stuff and to throw out your parents "garbage" after they pass away, just as you like.


You are entitled to keep your stuff. Your heirs won’t think well of you on that score.


lol they’ll have a multi million dollar inheritance to console them. Plus they can always reflect on how I paid for their educations and took loving care of them when they grew up.


Multiple things can be true. They can appreciate your money, appreciate your love, and be irritated that you were a complete disaster about your physical possessions.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 17:48     Subject: Do you ever think of how much STUFF you are leaving for your family to deal with?

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I did not mean that the stuff is sadder than her death. That came out wrong. I just meant it is honestly heartbreaking to see them, grief-stricken, also dealing with tons of work, confusion, guilt, and endless labor. They know she didn’t want it all to go to Goodwill or what have you, but they (and the larger family) only want a few things, not everything. There’s just so much.

The weight of the stuff is very, very heavy.


Your cousins should have helped their mother do this when she was alive. Elderly people have a VERY difficult time knowing where to begin. It’s overwhelming, and even emotional. At the end of the day, even after giving away things, you’re still going to have a lot left - furniture, clothes, cookware, cleaning supplies, luggage, decorations, linens, rugs, lamps, books, art, decor, fans, gardening supplies, container plants and patio furniture, make up and toiletries, medicines, and all the other garbage that’s found in a home, even a pared down home.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 17:47     Subject: Do you ever think of how much STUFF you are leaving for your family to deal with?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My parents and older relatives have some sick joke that if we’re inheriting all their money we have to deal with cleaning and selling.

It is what it is. I think by 85, people should have their homes parsed down and cleared out. Like spare room closets empty, attic empty, basement empty


Really they should just move into their graves - sleep in a coffin, only wear the thing they want to be buried in.


You're right. Wishing my parents didn't have a garage full of broken car parts is the same as wishing they were dead. You're very smart and not at all a tedious POS.


So help them get rid of that stuff now, or figure out who you're going to have to call when the time comes. What do you want them to do? You think your parents are suddenly going to become completely different people, becuase you're planning for their death?

The entitlement on this thread is astonishing.


What the actual F does the above complaint have to do with "entitlement"???? People throw that label on anything they don't like to read on here.


If anything sitting on a pile of crap you don't need and expecting other people to deal with it is entitled. It's also wasteful. All the crap my parents refuse to deal with might have been useful to someone 20 years ago but they can't part with it, so now it's garbage. Fortunately I've learned not to be like them.


Yes, yes, I am 100% entitled to keep my own stuff and do what I want with it while I'm alive, do go on.

And you're entitled to throw out your own stuff and to throw out your parents "garbage" after they pass away, just as you like.


You are entitled to keep your stuff. Your heirs won’t think well of you on that score.


lol they’ll have a multi million dollar inheritance to console them. Plus they can always reflect on how I paid for their educations and took loving care of them when they grew up.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 17:42     Subject: Do you ever think of how much STUFF you are leaving for your family to deal with?

Anonymous wrote:It's not about future inconvenience or s***ing over old people. It's to remind everyone that the current idea of living on a pile of mammon is not sustainable!


Oh believe me it is totallysustainable for your parents to keep a house crammed with stuff. They can sustain that for 30-40 years.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2024 17:39     Subject: Do you ever think of how much STUFF you are leaving for your family to deal with?

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to think about self-storage places and what might be in those units. I understand the use for them when you have a temporary relocation and other reasons but I know people who just off-loaded a bunch of their excess stuff into one. Did anyone's parents have one or more of these?


Oh yes. When my mom passed away I discovered she had THREE storage units that contained absolutely NOTHING of value. It was stuff she’d brought along when she moved cross country 20+ years before but didn’t want to put it in her new house or throw it away. Think, IKEA type pressed wood furniture, boxes full of paper utility bills, etc. now all dusty and cobwebby.